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| 122. How can anyone trust a corporation? |
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How could unbridled capitalism ever be good for the common person ? Greed is never good. Capitalism is very unchristian.
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| -A former right-wingers advice on how to destroy a key pillar of right-wing ideology |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 02:07 PM |
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A hearty K&R |
BushOut06 |
Oct-28-07 02:11 PM |
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K&R? |
Ricki |
Oct-28-07 08:13 PM |
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Kick & Recommend |
BushOut06 |
Oct-28-07 08:22 PM |
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Thank you! |
Ricki |
Oct-28-07 08:39 PM |
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Yeah, thank you, but also, NO SHIT! |
King Coal |
Oct-29-07 07:16 AM |
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Welcome! |
rabies1 |
Oct-29-07 09:22 AM |
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k & r |
niyad |
Oct-28-07 02:11 PM |
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We need an updated version of the term "Robber Baron." Maybe |
alfredo |
Oct-28-07 02:16 PM |
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Robber-Baron will work. Pirate will work. Pirates in Pinstripes will work. |
calimary |
Oct-28-07 02:37 PM |
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I like Robber Barons. |
alfredo |
Oct-28-07 02:52 PM |
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Because 19 chins just aren't enough. |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-28-07 03:31 PM |
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when he was born, the doctor slapped the mother. |
alfredo |
Oct-28-07 04:41 PM |
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I thought |
Johnny Noshoes |
Oct-28-07 07:47 PM |
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he also exists in high fever hallucinations |
alfredo |
Oct-29-07 02:13 PM |
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Yikes! That looks like the UFO baby on the cover of the Weekly World News |
calimary |
Oct-28-07 11:47 PM |
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I'd almost erased the image of Jabba the CEO from my memory... |
Buns_of_Fire |
Oct-29-07 06:39 AM |
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He's so ugly even his money wouldn't get him laid. |
alfredo |
Oct-29-07 02:14 PM |
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Aaaargh! I be takin'exception to the speakin' of Pirates that way, matey! |
utopiansecretagent |
Oct-28-07 07:56 PM |
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Ramen! |
silverweb |
Oct-28-07 08:56 PM |
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Benedict Arnold Corporations |
NBachers |
Oct-28-07 08:49 PM |
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Yep, that's another good one. Anything that evokes a word picture. |
calimary |
Oct-28-07 11:50 PM |
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Lincoln said it best. |
alfredo |
Oct-29-07 02:20 PM |
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kings and serfs will work - kingdoms serfdoms |
higher class |
Oct-29-07 09:20 AM |
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Their successes just keep rolling in when it comes to winning the |
higher class |
Oct-29-07 09:25 AM |
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Yet the Baronial Ones themselves do NOT do any of the actual WORK! |
vickitulsa |
Oct-29-07 10:31 AM |
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CORPORATE CASINO |
clarence swinney |
Oct-29-07 01:25 PM |
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Agree on all counts. |
vickitulsa |
Oct-29-07 04:40 PM |
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If a company moves off shore, let its products rot on the shelves. |
alfredo |
Oct-29-07 08:34 PM |
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Call them all "Simon Legree". |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-29-07 11:27 AM |
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Ivy League Mafia |
formercia |
Oct-28-07 03:49 PM |
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Right. This group is WORSE than the Mob. |
AllyCat |
Oct-28-07 08:46 PM |
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And at least the Mob has principles |
knight_of_the_star |
Oct-28-07 09:09 PM |
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Funny you mention that |
formercia |
Oct-29-07 05:56 AM |
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The Biggest Protection Racket in the History of the World |
NBachers |
Oct-28-07 08:53 PM |
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Corporatist is the word. That's what the bushies are. |
muntrv |
Oct-28-07 05:23 PM |
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Predatory Capitalism... |
Polemicist |
Oct-28-07 11:43 PM |
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Powerful indeed. Very good explanation of Freidman vs Keynes vs Marxist |
Yael |
Oct-29-07 10:04 AM |
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Well done, another K&R |
Warpy |
Oct-28-07 02:17 PM |
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that and .... Why put someone in charge of something they don't |
klyon |
Oct-29-07 06:09 AM |
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It's the corporations, stupid! |
tbyg52 |
Oct-28-07 02:21 PM |
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there is another key pillar of right-wing ideology |
flyingfysh |
Oct-28-07 02:25 PM |
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Yes, they still have the War on Christmas to fight! nt |
I Have A Dream |
Oct-28-07 02:29 PM |
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It's hard to get rid of |
CJCRANE |
Oct-28-07 02:36 PM |
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I was never a fundamentalist so I did not include that... |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 03:03 PM |
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What do you make of the fact that so many RWingers who would be better off |
CTyankee |
Oct-28-07 05:38 PM |
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I think the number one reason is that they don't know their interests are being betrayed |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 08:08 PM |
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But that is so tough. They can see in their own lives what is going on! |
CTyankee |
Oct-28-07 08:35 PM |
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I really don't know if they can see... |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 09:26 PM |
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That's because the media is a corporation too. |
AllyCat |
Oct-28-07 08:48 PM |
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You hit the nail on the head right there! |
mwb970 |
Oct-29-07 07:01 AM |
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It is a proven fact that propaganda, good public relations, gossip and the like are more strongly |
IsItJustMe |
Oct-29-07 08:46 AM |
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Democrats will not promote success |
clarence swinney |
Oct-29-07 01:48 PM |
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Uneducated Populance |
clarence swinney |
Oct-29-07 01:43 PM |
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two words racism and abortion |
klyon |
Oct-29-07 06:15 AM |
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The answer to this you can find in the book Hunting with Jesus |
Truthy Nessy |
Oct-29-07 09:25 AM |
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Abortion, Gay Rights and Guns |
Yael |
Oct-29-07 10:07 AM |
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A grand deception that starts with their 'Left Behind' eschatology |
EVDebs |
Oct-28-07 04:04 PM |
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You wouldn't like preterism any better..... |
bjorkfan |
Oct-28-07 08:19 PM |
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Welcome to DU! |
calimary |
Oct-28-07 11:56 PM |
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Most liberal Christians are very Green. and the Bible speaks of 'stewardship' |
EVDebs |
Oct-29-07 06:23 PM |
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Yes, and with theological groups such as Kingdom Now, Joel's Army, and a host of other monikers |
Yael |
Oct-29-07 10:10 AM |
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Also include, greed and fear; Corporate bribery and Religious fire and brimstone. |
dickbearton |
Oct-28-07 04:52 PM |
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I think the fundies are being used by corporate repubs |
bad_robbie |
Oct-29-07 08:45 AM |
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I should have mentioned a very good reference |
flyingfysh |
Oct-29-07 01:38 PM |
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As a life long Democrat and an appreciative union member, my advice |
PollThis |
Oct-28-07 02:32 PM |
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If only! It always means good things down the ballot to the local races. |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 12:08 AM |
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It's Not Capitalism Anymore When Robber Barons Buy the Government |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-28-07 02:35 PM |
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Bravo! Excellent! K&R n/t |
antigop |
Oct-28-07 02:44 PM |
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Some of the same thinking here in Sirota's article.... |
antigop |
Oct-28-07 02:46 PM |
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Isn't it a little juvenile to wholly distrust one entity while embracing another? |
Iris |
Oct-28-07 02:51 PM |
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Yes, there is a lot of black and white thinking on the matter... |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 03:09 PM |
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I agree. I also think it is fairly obvious the ONLY way to fix things is to |
Iris |
Oct-28-07 03:13 PM |
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Why Not Do This? |
stirlingsliver |
Oct-28-07 04:57 PM |
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yeah. Chaos and anarchy. That's the way to go. |
Iris |
Oct-28-07 08:36 PM |
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Socialized Health Care scares the be-Jesus out of them. You might |
B Calm |
Oct-28-07 02:56 PM |
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There re moves afoot to privatize those other things too. |
Jackpine Radical |
Oct-28-07 06:38 PM |
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your right it is a common misconception |
fenriswolf |
Oct-28-07 03:05 PM |
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I am also traveling from right to left.. |
SparkyMac |
Oct-28-07 03:17 PM |
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Welcome to DU, SparkyMac! |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-28-07 03:33 PM |
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Welcome, Sparky Mac. |
truedelphi |
Oct-28-07 04:18 PM |
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Welcome, Sparky. |
Jackpine Radical |
Oct-28-07 06:41 PM |
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Whoa! Excellent! Welcome, SparkyMac! |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 12:12 AM |
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Nice job... |
timeforarevolution |
Oct-28-07 03:18 PM |
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Currenlty reading "The Big Con" by Johnathan Chait |
underpants |
Oct-28-07 03:21 PM |
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What everyone should also realize - with all four industries that |
higher class |
Oct-29-07 09:52 AM |
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It's like I've always said; |
WileEcoyote |
Oct-28-07 03:27 PM |
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I think "corporations," like "business," is a broad term, too. |
Sparkly |
Oct-28-07 03:27 PM |
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Big doesn't equal bad. Small doesn't equal good. |
eallen |
Oct-28-07 03:33 PM |
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I'm thinking or hoping (or maybe both) that when most people |
truedelphi |
Oct-28-07 04:26 PM |
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Well, there are people who think profit is bad, in and of itself. |
eallen |
Oct-28-07 05:08 PM |
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Nor did I say all big was bad and all small was good... |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 08:16 PM |
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The six pillars of Republican power |
krispos42 |
Oct-28-07 03:40 PM |
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Yes, you're close. |
Somawas |
Oct-29-07 10:13 AM |
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Corporations should be democratized |
GeneCosta |
Oct-28-07 03:56 PM |
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Pre-existing corporations offer unequal representation at best. |
Selatius |
Oct-28-07 04:13 PM |
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Do you expect that ever to be more than a fraction of businesses? |
eallen |
Oct-28-07 05:33 PM |
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In the current order of things, never. There's a problem with conflict of interest. |
Selatius |
Oct-28-07 05:50 PM |
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The events I describe require no conflict of interest at all. |
eallen |
Oct-28-07 06:15 PM |
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No, I was generally speaking to the issue of government regulation of the markets. |
Selatius |
Oct-29-07 11:41 AM |
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You're 100% correct |
GeneCosta |
Oct-28-07 06:49 PM |
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Welcome! |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 12:26 AM |
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But Couldn't The Government Also Be Viewed As A Big Corporation |
stirlingsliver |
Oct-28-07 04:45 PM |
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The question isn't big government or small; the question is corruption of government . . .. |
defendandprotect |
Oct-28-07 11:58 PM |
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Corporatist is the word. That's what the bushies are. |
muntrv |
Oct-28-07 05:22 PM |
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That's pretty much what turned me totally against the repub party |
lyonn |
Oct-28-07 05:26 PM |
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Bueno |
SpiralHawk |
Oct-28-07 06:16 PM |
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It's beyond the corporate entities. |
OxQQme |
Oct-28-07 07:24 PM |
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As more and more people |
femrap |
Oct-28-07 07:34 PM |
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When one single Corporation can make a NET PROFIT of OVER one hundred million a DAY |
Toots |
Oct-28-07 07:57 PM |
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This is a major issue and why capitalism, itself, must be examined .. .. |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-07 12:03 AM |
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Excellent post! |
bushwentawol |
Oct-28-07 08:43 PM |
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I think they recognize that corporate "personhood" wasn't official established, but .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-07 12:05 AM |
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I love your point about not moving the center! |
AllyCat |
Oct-28-07 08:45 PM |
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But it trickles down... |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-28-07 09:01 PM |
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Swamp Rat should make us a picture of a fat rich dude standing on an ornate |
AikidoSoul |
Oct-28-07 10:19 PM |
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Just scroll back up... |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-28-07 11:53 PM |
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Remember Enron? |
dougolat |
Oct-29-07 12:02 AM |
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Yes! And look how far they got in their destruction of California before they were stopped -- !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-07 12:12 AM |
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Yes! And look how far they got in their destruction of California before they were stopped -- !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-07 12:12 AM |
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Welcome to DU, to you, also! |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:31 AM |
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Oops, dupe. |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:31 AM |
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great post baby snooks - but I go a step further - there is a charade |
higher class |
Oct-29-07 10:20 AM |
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The charade |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-29-07 11:51 AM |
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As a small business owner, I've been totally screwed |
bleever |
Oct-28-07 09:22 PM |
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If it's any consolation... |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-29-07 12:53 AM |
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"Venture capitalism." Maybe we should start calling it "VULTURE capitalism." |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:50 AM |
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And always circling above... |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-29-07 10:48 AM |
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Eloquently put, bleever. |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:47 AM |
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What about socialism applied to religion?.... |
bjorkfan |
Oct-28-07 09:35 PM |
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"Many people wonder how I could make a shift ,,, |
Malidictus Maximus |
Oct-28-07 09:52 PM |
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Good Will Rogers quote there. And Welcome to DU! |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:53 AM |
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You've hit the nail on the head squarely here. It echoes something I heard RFK Jr say... |
ms liberty |
Oct-28-07 09:58 PM |
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Count me in with you. I made my conversion about 4 years ago. |
Roland99 |
Oct-28-07 10:04 PM |
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Small business people are a natural progressive constituency |
Spiffarino |
Oct-28-07 10:19 PM |
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One we haven't taken advantage of nearly enough! |
OnionPatch |
Oct-29-07 08:23 AM |
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The function of most big corps is to drown small competitors |
Spiffarino |
Oct-30-07 10:11 PM |
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Brilliant and convincing. K&R. |
Basileus Basileon |
Oct-28-07 11:01 PM |
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Thanks very much for your comments. Yeah, the problem with privatization is that |
codjh9 |
Oct-28-07 11:12 PM |
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they're not even pro-corporation. they're pro-corporate DONORS |
unblock |
Oct-28-07 11:52 PM |
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It's a fault in they're fundamental logic. |
NoGodsNoMasters |
Oct-29-07 12:14 AM |
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We need to move the center out of the right |
iburl |
Oct-29-07 01:03 AM |
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I disagree on a couple points |
Dewlso |
Oct-29-07 01:12 AM |
#102 |
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Cool - three more! Welcome, NoGodsNoMasters, iburl, and Dewlso! |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:56 AM |
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Good post. Ask your friends if the falling value of the US Dollar is Clinton's fault. |
Peake |
Oct-29-07 01:30 AM |
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So it's an inherent belief of theirs that Democracy is bad? |
Lorien |
Oct-29-07 02:02 AM |
#104 |
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Don't forget Regan tought them spin. |
Froward69 |
Oct-29-07 03:33 AM |
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Then eliminate the corporation |
TomClash |
Oct-29-07 04:42 AM |
#112 |
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Strongly agree! |
Apollo11 |
Oct-29-07 05:32 AM |
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Dem's should be pro-business but make "A seperation of Corporations |
harun |
Oct-29-07 06:23 AM |
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Excellent post! |
No Surrender |
Oct-29-07 06:37 AM |
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How can anyone trust a corporation? |
meowomon |
Oct-29-07 07:29 AM |
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Reframe it - Corporatiism |
LiberalEsto |
Oct-29-07 07:41 AM |
#123 |
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Yacht Sales are UP! |
tincanguy |
Oct-29-07 07:52 AM |
#124 |
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Best, most practical post this year. The key is also stockholders. |
higher class |
Oct-29-07 08:29 AM |
#126 |
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There is an excellent work published on exactly this |
Yael |
Oct-29-07 10:20 AM |
#144 |
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They say a liberal is a conservative who's never been mugged. |
Feles Mala |
Oct-29-07 08:49 AM |
#129 |
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Isn't corporatocracy the same as Fascism? That is what we are headed for here..if no one can stop it |
BrklynLib at work |
Oct-29-07 09:06 AM |
#130 |
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I could have written this as I have walked in your shoes and taken the same journey |
Yael |
Oct-29-07 09:54 AM |
#136 |
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That is fiscal conservative but ... |
chemp |
Oct-29-07 10:09 AM |
#139 |
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Thank you for saying this |
Hydra |
Oct-29-07 10:12 AM |
#141 |
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The Reagan Revolution was built on demonizing the poor & middle class and lionizing big corporations |
Oregonian |
Oct-29-07 10:26 AM |
#145 |
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karmaBanque dot com |
maxkeiser |
Oct-29-07 10:30 AM |
#146 |
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that's a scary thought |
DemReadingDU |
Oct-29-07 06:47 PM |
#171 |
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Good points. Back in the old days (pre-outsourcing), |
Vinca |
Oct-29-07 11:00 AM |
#149 |
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Where I come from "leftist" is generally used as a slur against |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-29-07 11:24 AM |
#150 |
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Bravo ! |
bearfan454 |
Oct-29-07 11:49 AM |
#153 |
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K & R |
tom_paine |
Oct-29-07 11:52 AM |
#155 |
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The Right Wing Does a Bait-and-Switch |
ribofunk |
Oct-29-07 12:11 PM |
#156 |
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trust in corporations? huh? |
ryanus |
Oct-29-07 01:23 PM |
#157 |
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Outstanding post MN Against Bush! |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-29-07 01:33 PM |
#159 |
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K+R. Thank you for such an excellent post! n/t |
Artiechoke |
Oct-29-07 01:47 PM |
#162 |
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Do you mean to say you didn't recognize that the republicon party |
FREEWILL56 |
Oct-29-07 02:18 PM |
#166 |
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Excellent!!! Thanks |
Doc Martin |
Oct-29-07 04:49 PM |
#169 |
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