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26. been tried before rember the State of Jefferson
I agree but you should read this post and go to the link, maybe we can learn from past mistakes.

There have been many attempts at forming a new state comprised of northern California and southern Oregon, but none has gained so much attention and retained it as the secession movement of 1941.

The abundant supply of minerals and timber in this region was largely inaccessible due to the lack of sufficient roads and bridges into the rugged mountain border country. The local pioneering people grew weary of unfulfilled promises from Salem and Sacramento to help fund sufficient highway projects in the region while building campgrounds in the cities where there were more votes.

Representatives from the mountain border counties involved met in Yreka, CA on November 17, 1941 to form an alliance to obtain federal aid for the construction and repair of bridges and roads. The Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors voted to allocate $100 to research the possibility of seceding from the state of California and joining the other counties to form a new 49th state. The Yreka Chamber of Commerce was very instrumental in persuading the Board.

The local newspaper ran a contest to name the new state and the winning entry was Jefferson. The winner of the contest pocketed $2 for his efforts. Yreka was designated the temporary state capital where the State of Jefferson Citizens Committee was formed.
They proceeded to stop traffic on Highway 99 outside of town and handed their Proclamation of Independence out to travelers.

Jefferson made the papers nearly every day, competing with headlines of Germany's ravaging of Europe. The San Francisco Chronicle sent a young reporter, Stanton Delaplane, to cover the events. He traveled the rain-soaked roads to speak with locals to get a feel for the secession movement from their point of view. He got stuck in the mud down the Klamath River but that did not stop him from writing a series of colorful articles on the rebellion which earned him the coveted Pulitzer Prize.

On December 4, Judge John L. Childs of Crescent City in Del Norte County was elected governor. A torchlight parade complete with horses, marching bands and sign-carrying young people riding in trucks was held in Yreka followed by a ceremonious inauguration held on the courthouse lawn.

Hollywood newsreel companies were present to record the events, including the highway barricades. The State of Jefferson was off to a banner start.

The newsreels were to air nationally the week of December 8, but tragically on December 7th Pearl Harbor was bombed and the State of Jefferson rebellion of 1941 came to an end. The people of the region went to work for the war effort and good roads were eventually built into the backcountry to access strategic minerals and timber. These same roads have helped countless numbers of rural families make a living from the land that continues to produce abundant, quality natural resources.

The State of Jefferson 'state of mind' remains in the hearts and minds of people everywhere.

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  -Time to pull up stakes and secede: Republic of California Taverner  Sep-26-07 12:53 PM   #0 
  - we'll have to do an Ahhhrnold coup first  musette_sf   Sep-26-07 12:55 PM   #1 
  - By the time it takes us to get a movement, he'll be out of office  Taverner   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #4 
  - Arnold would probably enjoy being President of California very much.  hunter   Sep-26-07 03:08 PM   #58 
  - ROC -- that's pretty cool  Winebrat   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #2 
  - Cool  Marrah_G   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #3 
  - Didn't Vermont or New Hampshire used to be its own nation too?  Taverner   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #5 
  - Texas still maintains the right to secede.  TomInTib   Sep-26-07 01:40 PM   #20 
  - Not really...  LanternWaste   Sep-26-07 03:25 PM   #65 
  - Tom, my family was too - I am a 7th generation Texan and on top  jhrobbins   Sep-26-07 04:38 PM   #72 
     - There's some bragging rights. But the first guy doesn't stand a chance.  TomInTib   Sep-26-07 04:46 PM   #73 
  - Vermont n/t  Marrah_G   Sep-26-07 02:19 PM   #46 
  - Vermont -- interesting!  eppur_se_muova   Sep-26-07 02:35 PM   #52 
  - Vermont.  Tesha   Sep-26-07 03:07 PM   #57 
  - Perfect n/t  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 01:54 PM   #29 
  - Oh, Please do not forsake me and doom me to Jesusland!  Whoa_Nelly   Sep-26-07 12:58 PM   #6 
  - Congress won't listen. Bush and Cheney aren't going to be impeached.  Taverner   Sep-26-07 12:59 PM   #8 
  - Where will you get your food and water if you leave out the valley and mountains?  XemaSab   Sep-26-07 12:58 PM   #7 
  - Oh we get the mountains :)  Taverner   Sep-26-07 01:00 PM   #9 
     - Hey. You are leaving Placer County in Jesusland. That is NOT fair.  tandot   Sep-26-07 01:32 PM   #12 
     - Did I leave Placer County out?  Taverner   Sep-26-07 01:32 PM   #13 
        - The part of Placer County I am living in (Rocklin) is not too Hippie  tandot   Sep-26-07 02:41 PM   #53 
        - Placerville is in El Dorado County  pfitz59   Sep-26-07 10:26 PM   #107 
     - Sorry, California sucks  PDenton   Sep-26-07 01:38 PM   #17 
     - "Too many people now days don't speak English there "  Taverner   Sep-26-07 01:46 PM   #24 
     - Those kind usually move to Idaho.  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 01:53 PM   #28 
        - Yep, either Sandpoint or Cour d'Laine  Taverner   Sep-26-07 02:02 PM   #36 
           - I'm not a neo-nazi  PDenton   Sep-26-07 04:07 PM   #68 
           - I grew up in California - so change is what I'm comfortable with  Taverner   Sep-26-07 05:34 PM   #75 
           - believe it or not  PDenton   Sep-26-07 05:55 PM   #82 
              - I think it's a good experience to have  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 06:10 PM   #87 
           - They are American - think of how people felt when Italians came  adigal   Sep-26-07 08:05 PM   #102 
           - At least the Irish spoke English  PDenton   Sep-27-07 05:34 AM   #113 
           - OH NOES you are a white person on a planet that is mostly brown.  Chovexani   Sep-27-07 05:41 AM   #115 
           - I used to live in the Sandpoint area. The neo-Nazis confined themselves  Cleita   Sep-26-07 07:08 PM   #95 
     - Spanish speaking California is my home.  hunter   Sep-26-07 03:21 PM   #64 
     - that's fair enough, people have different likes  PDenton   Sep-26-07 04:02 PM   #67 
        - I have a friend who moved to California in the 50s  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 06:17 PM   #89 
           - California looks great, but I don't think it is sustainable  PDenton   Sep-27-07 06:44 AM   #116 
     - Then you must have had blinders on. I lived in San Bernardino  Cleita   Sep-26-07 07:10 PM   #97 
        - I was less than 2 years old  PDenton   Sep-27-07 05:37 AM   #114 
           - Excuse me but there is far more third world poverty in parts of  Cleita   Sep-27-07 10:55 AM   #118 
     - So you'd give up  XemaSab   Sep-26-07 02:49 PM   #55 
     - Good luck with that.  Xithras   Sep-26-07 05:39 PM   #77 
  - We already moved from Oklahoma to sunny California in 2004 and love it  tandot   Sep-26-07 01:30 PM   #10 
  - I loved calif too for a few years  blues90   Sep-26-07 03:49 PM   #66 
     - now wait just a minute, there are too seasons in CA!  kineneb   Sep-26-07 05:49 PM   #79 
     - Not having rain for a about half a year is something I had to get used to  tandot   Sep-26-07 06:05 PM   #84 
  - Hope you guys have room cause I'm comin' west if you split off!!  sinkingfeeling   Sep-26-07 01:31 PM   #11 
  - If California secedes, we take the sixth largest economy in the  Cleita   Sep-26-07 01:35 PM   #14 
  - As an ex-Californian, now in Washington, I'd be tempted to move back.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-26-07 01:38 PM   #18 
     - We once talked about the nation of Pacifica, Washington,  Cleita   Sep-26-07 01:42 PM   #21 
        - I'd certainly be for it.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-26-07 01:44 PM   #22 
        - We would have all the pacific coast ports. That would be important.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 01:49 PM   #25 
           - I actually believe that something like that will happen.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-26-07 01:56 PM   #34 
        - The Republic of Cascadia  Raster   Sep-26-07 02:14 PM   #43 
           - Why not California?  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:23 PM   #49 
           - OK, deal. The Republic of Pacifica. California, Oregon and Washington.  Raster   Sep-26-07 02:48 PM   #54 
              - See Ernest Callenbach's novel "Ecotopia" for details...  Tesha   Sep-26-07 03:10 PM   #59 
              - Please leave Oregon and Washington out  depakid   Sep-26-07 03:21 PM   #63 
                 - The Republic of Cascadia  Raster   Sep-26-07 04:34 PM   #71 
           - And part of California:  Progs Rock   Sep-26-07 10:43 PM   #111 
  - There's a neighborhood in San Diego that nobody wants  slackmaster   Sep-26-07 01:36 PM   #15 
  - I wish we could...  CaliforniaPeggy   Sep-26-07 01:36 PM   #16 
  - The South isn't California.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 01:56 PM   #32 
     - financially we would come out ahead  kineneb   Sep-26-07 05:54 PM   #80 
        - This is why they would fight us to keep us.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 07:02 PM   #92 
  - That succession thing always works out so well anyway.  Lex   Sep-26-07 01:40 PM   #19 
  - Get serious. That whole recall thing was an egregious misuse  Cleita   Sep-26-07 01:46 PM   #23 
  - er.. don't you mean Secession?  SoCalDem   Sep-26-07 03:14 PM   #61 
  - been tried before rember the State of Jefferson  mulsh   Sep-26-07 01:51 PM   #26 
  - Northern California rural people have been wanting to break  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:18 PM   #45 
  - Sounds good to me.  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 01:51 PM   #27 
  - So Cal would cease to exist without water from the Colorado.  rinsd   Sep-26-07 01:54 PM   #30 
  - Yeah. Nevada and Arizona could just turn off the tap  rockymountaindem   Sep-26-07 01:56 PM   #33 
  - That is a problem, but not insurmountable. There is technology  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:00 PM   #35 
  - Desalination costs money & the pop. is just far too large to come up w/ an alternative water source  rinsd   Sep-26-07 02:04 PM   #37 
     - It does today, but necessity has always been the mother of  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:08 PM   #40 
        - Yeah but then you would be talking about a mass die off in the meantime.  rinsd   Sep-26-07 02:14 PM   #44 
           - Nah! People would just move. We still have roads.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:21 PM   #47 
              - Good luck maintaining those roads without federal transportation money.  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-26-07 05:44 PM   #78 
                 - California belonged to Spain  kineneb   Sep-26-07 06:08 PM   #85 
                 - A treaty with Mexico isn't going to mean much to the Chinese who already have a deep water port here  cherokeeprogressive   Sep-26-07 06:43 PM   #91 
                 - Since we would be keeping our tax revenue I don't think  Cleita   Sep-26-07 07:06 PM   #94 
  - Not to mention the water from Northern CA in the Owens Valley  tyedyeto   Sep-26-07 10:38 PM   #109 
  - It's coming but not for the resaons you are thinking  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-26-07 01:55 PM   #31 
  - Good point.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:07 PM   #39 
     - Thsi country will not break up into a loose federation  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-26-07 04:29 PM   #70 
        - Here in Baja Canada...  warren pease   Sep-26-07 05:38 PM   #76 
        - You no longer do, if that makes you feel better  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-26-07 06:11 PM   #88 
        - Too bad you feel that way. I'm far more optimistic.  Cleita   Sep-26-07 07:19 PM   #99 
  - The Supreme Court has ruled that Constitution did not permit states to secede  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-26-07 02:06 PM   #38 
  - A geographical area that wants to declare itself a new nation  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:11 PM   #42 
  - The Supreme Court also said to stop the vote count  adigal   Sep-26-07 08:09 PM   #103 
  - That would be better than my idea, to blow up the bridges  sfexpat2000   Sep-26-07 02:09 PM   #41 
  - I'm not opposed to California secession but why don't all of us who support Kucinich  truedelphi   Sep-26-07 02:23 PM   #48 
  - But everything in HI costs tons of $$$$  Taverner   Sep-26-07 03:19 PM   #62 
  - Cool, I want to be governor of Humboldt.  american_typeculture   Sep-26-07 02:24 PM   #50 
  - That was my sentiment when I picked my handle when I joined DU!  calipendence   Sep-26-07 02:24 PM   #51 
  - We can't do a hill of beans until we dethrone Arnold, however,  Cleita   Sep-26-07 02:58 PM   #56 
     - That is how the Civil War started.  ieoeja   Sep-26-07 04:22 PM   #69 
        - I think anyone who entertains this idea seriously knows that  Cleita   Sep-26-07 05:58 PM   #83 
           - Um...the army appears to be otherwise engaged  adigal   Sep-26-07 08:11 PM   #104 
  - CalOrExico  SoCalDem   Sep-26-07 03:13 PM   #60 
  - i like Mexifornia!  xchrom   Sep-26-07 05:22 PM   #74 
  - We did this a fewl years back at the DU: California, Oregon & Washingon pull out & become Pacifica  David Zephyr   Sep-26-07 05:55 PM   #81 
  - Hey, please include Oregon and Washington. The Left Coast Republic.  Oregonian   Sep-26-07 06:09 PM   #86 
  - That would be a good name n/t  goodgd_yall   Sep-26-07 06:19 PM   #90 
  - Yes! Ecotopia reborn!!  Jade Fox   Sep-26-07 07:55 PM   #100 
  - I can see more states seceding  lovuian   Sep-26-07 07:03 PM   #93 
  - I'm in!  Juniperx   Sep-26-07 07:08 PM   #96 
  - You are, of course, wasting your time.  Bucky   Sep-26-07 07:14 PM   #98 
  - Please - take New York, too. And the rest of the  adigal   Sep-26-07 08:03 PM   #101 
  - Maybe the whole country should secede from  Cleita   Sep-26-07 10:03 PM   #105 
     - New York will form its own republic...  FreepFryer   Sep-26-07 10:25 PM   #106 
  - Ecotopia!  pfitz59   Sep-26-07 10:34 PM   #108 
  - More links  pfitz59   Sep-26-07 10:47 PM   #112 
  - It was tried 25 or so years ago and failed  tyedyeto   Sep-26-07 10:41 PM   #110 
  - If California were to secede I would move there in a heartbeat. n/t  Sentinel Chicken   Sep-27-07 06:49 AM   #117 

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