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Tue Sep-18-07 04:18 PM
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| -DUers: Read this RE: Kerry/Taser situation for some perspective... |
MessiahRp |
Sep-18-07 04:09 PM |
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I doubt that anything is going to convince some people that Kerry did what he could. |
TwilightZone |
Sep-18-07 04:16 PM |
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Kerry did everything right. But everyone else should be ashamed |
bos1 |
Sep-19-07 02:42 AM |
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This is BS. |
Mugsy |
Sep-19-07 12:09 PM |
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IMAGE, PEOPLE, IMAGE! |
JFN1 |
Sep-19-07 12:25 PM |
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It would be crazy for Kerry to try to take authority from police. |
IMModerate |
Sep-19-07 01:15 PM |
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Scenario: Senator Kerry leaps from the stage into the mosh pit, giving new meaning to "supporters.." |
IMModerate |
Sep-19-07 01:42 PM |
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B.S. on you...holding Kerry responsible is idiotic... |
rfranklin |
Sep-19-07 01:51 PM |
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Thank you Rp |
jkshaw |
Sep-18-07 04:18 PM |
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Thank you for this, |
rwheeler31 |
Sep-18-07 04:21 PM |
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Precisely why I don't listen to her |
MessiahRp |
Sep-18-07 04:30 PM |
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I hope some people will call her and ask for a retraction |
MH1 |
Sep-18-07 04:39 PM |
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Absolutely K&R |
Felinity |
Sep-18-07 04:38 PM |
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Randi will apologize if she is wrong. |
JDPriestly |
Sep-18-07 10:13 PM |
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Randi |
PhilipDC |
Sep-19-07 10:45 AM |
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She's on it again today |
wryter2000 |
Sep-19-07 03:12 PM |
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K&R. |
TwilightZone |
Sep-18-07 04:26 PM |
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K&R |
politicasista |
Sep-18-07 04:27 PM |
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I hope I helped to kick this to the front page. |
FitzmasAgain |
Sep-18-07 04:36 PM |
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It still won't matter to those wishing to malign Sen kerry sad as the truth may be. |
AuntPatsy |
Sep-18-07 04:38 PM |
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I like Kerry and campaigned for him early in the 2004 primary. |
truckin |
Sep-19-07 03:59 PM |
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what a great post... |
stillcool47 |
Sep-18-07 04:39 PM |
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Thank you. K+R eom. |
Artiechoke |
Sep-18-07 04:39 PM |
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Thanks for posting this. I could not believe the number of people that jumped to conclusions |
Minimus |
Sep-18-07 04:45 PM |
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K & R |
karynnj |
Sep-18-07 05:10 PM |
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One thing I noticed was how the disruptor "managed" the encounter. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-18-07 05:12 PM |
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Oh Baloney! Even if you carefully orchestrate some actions |
truedelphi |
Sep-19-07 12:39 PM |
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The police did everything by ther book as far as I could see. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-19-07 02:26 PM |
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Except whenyou are in your car, you are under the Authority of |
truedelphi |
Sep-19-07 02:34 PM |
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He has answered that question on multiple occasions |
rox63 |
Sep-19-07 03:13 PM |
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Thank you for that. |
truedelphi |
Sep-19-07 03:19 PM |
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He planned to challenge the Ohio election |
rox63 |
Sep-19-07 05:00 PM |
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And you are trained solely in dealing with "obstroperous" people. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-20-07 06:37 AM |
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Look I don't get paid all that well |
truedelphi |
Sep-20-07 02:52 PM |
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You are still trained to do one job, and hopefully to do it well. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-20-07 04:12 PM |
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Now point by point. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-20-07 07:17 AM |
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CAn I point out one thing that you have wrong (After all you just met me) |
truedelphi |
Sep-20-07 04:30 PM |
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O.K. I made some assumptions which are unfounded. |
TheMadMonk |
Sep-20-07 05:12 PM |
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perpective |
reggie the dog |
Sep-19-07 04:09 PM |
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It's a damn shame what people here and Randi Rhodes are saying about Kerry. |
Connie_Corleone |
Sep-18-07 05:17 PM |
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What I find strange is... |
MessiahRp |
Sep-18-07 05:45 PM |
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People are still fighting the '04 primaries. |
TwilightZone |
Sep-18-07 05:51 PM |
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That's the point Will Pitt was making in another thread |
LittleClarkie |
Sep-18-07 10:06 PM |
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You got it wrong |
marekjed |
Sep-19-07 04:14 AM |
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There is only one thing that needs to be said |
marekjed |
Sep-19-07 04:12 AM |
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Oh my your just too smart for the rest of us. |
sallyseven |
Sep-19-07 10:58 AM |
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sorry but you might want to read some Kerry Biographies |
LSK |
Sep-19-07 01:03 PM |
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Additionally, Kerry was only asked into S&B because he was head of the Yale Political Union |
rox63 |
Sep-19-07 03:16 PM |
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You mean the first debate where he decimated Bush |
karynnj |
Sep-19-07 03:59 PM |
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How the hell did this thread sink? |
cryingshame |
Sep-18-07 05:37 PM |
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Because it includes facts? |
TwilightZone |
Sep-18-07 05:47 PM |
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I still think there is plenty of reason for outrage at |
bbgrunt |
Sep-18-07 05:50 PM |
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I don't disagree |
MessiahRp |
Sep-18-07 05:54 PM |
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No arguement with that -- It is |
cadmium |
Sep-18-07 05:55 PM |
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Poor Kerry, what could he do? |
marekjed |
Sep-19-07 04:16 AM |
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The university authorities are who blew it |
goodgd_yall |
Sep-18-07 06:05 PM |
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I just saw the video for the first time. |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Sep-18-07 06:24 PM |
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Very true |
OzarkDem |
Sep-18-07 09:24 PM |
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No. This kid set this up from this begining. He even had people videotaping it. |
jobycom |
Sep-19-07 09:31 AM |
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Cops acted with restraint??? |
neoteric lefty |
Sep-19-07 01:00 PM |
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I agree with most of what you said... |
ShaneGR |
Sep-19-07 11:07 PM |
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That stupid microphone... |
jadedconformist |
Sep-19-07 04:04 PM |
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Actually we do not know what the student would have done |
karynnj |
Sep-19-07 04:05 PM |
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Thank you -- this puts a lot more perspective on the incident. |
8_year_nightmare |
Sep-18-07 06:24 PM |
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We'll not have any of that "perspective" crap here! |
mzmolly |
Sep-18-07 06:46 PM |
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Whom to trust? My lying eyes or a damage control statement? Decisions, decisions.... |
The Count |
Sep-18-07 06:55 PM |
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My thoughts exactly - damn these lying eyes. I should remember to check |
Emillereid |
Sep-19-07 05:34 PM |
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Bluerthanblue |
Sep-18-07 07:46 PM |
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This is Greg Palast's take on the incident |
AikidoSoul |
Sep-18-07 09:17 PM |
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Most likely, he COULDN'T drop the book. |
blackops |
Sep-18-07 09:56 PM |
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Was he there? Sounds like he hasn't heard the whole story |
LittleClarkie |
Sep-18-07 10:09 PM |
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I like Greg Palast as much as anyone but.. |
XOKCowboy |
Sep-18-07 10:36 PM |
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Gee, You think Palast has an agenda here? |
bluescribbler |
Sep-19-07 10:18 AM |
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Does Palasts books have video recording and send back feeds to Palast??? |
LSK |
Sep-19-07 01:08 PM |
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Congratulations.... |
AntiFascist |
Sep-19-07 03:16 PM |
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I wasn't there during that incident |
FloridaJudy |
Sep-18-07 09:56 PM |
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kick |
JI7 |
Sep-18-07 10:17 PM |
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Kerry did nothing wrong. The "kid" didn't want an answer. He wanted to rant.. |
XOKCowboy |
Sep-18-07 10:33 PM |
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Sure, he was an asshole, but that was no reason for the police to assault him. |
obiwan |
Sep-19-07 12:25 AM |
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Yes that is a point -- the should have taken him outside. They need to |
cadmium |
Sep-19-07 03:43 PM |
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Thank you. I can not comprehend how people blame Kerry for this. |
wisteria |
Sep-18-07 10:58 PM |
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Great, thanks. So, what's stopping JK from answering the questions now? |
snot |
Sep-18-07 11:22 PM |
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Maybe he did and you don't like his answer. |
sallyseven |
Sep-19-07 11:10 AM |
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If you think he's ever answered these questions, pls point me to where. |
snot |
Sep-19-07 11:00 PM |
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So would I./ Have called his office in Massachusettts and a staffer said they |
truedelphi |
Sep-19-07 02:58 PM |
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Thank you. |
snot |
Sep-19-07 11:02 PM |
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Bullshit! This is nothing more than obfuscation by Sen. Kerry |
psychopomp |
Sep-19-07 12:10 AM |
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The man had butted through the line and caused tension with campus police |
MessiahRp |
Sep-19-07 07:59 AM |
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I only blame Sen. Kerry for his own action, or lack thereof |
psychopomp |
Sep-19-07 07:30 PM |
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Bullshit! Your post is nothing more than an ignorant rant |
Vinnie From Indy |
Sep-19-07 09:39 AM |
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Right back atcha |
psychopomp |
Sep-19-07 07:27 PM |
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I don't blame Kerry, I blame the cops. |
obiwan |
Sep-19-07 12:21 AM |
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BLOWJOB? |
happygoluckytoyou |
Sep-19-07 01:05 AM |
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I agree completely-- Kerry could have handled the situation with ease.... |
mike_c |
Sep-19-07 01:15 AM |
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Boy, there are some DUers I hope never appear on a jury |
jpgray |
Sep-19-07 01:26 AM |
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no no-- he wasn't being tased at the time, IIRC.... |
mike_c |
Sep-19-07 01:38 AM |
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John Kerry Did nothing wrong except... |
iburl |
Sep-19-07 01:44 AM |
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Okay, that makes more sense |
jpgray |
Sep-19-07 01:49 AM |
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I want to emphasize that Kerry could have EASILY handled the situation.... |
mike_c |
Sep-19-07 01:59 AM |
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I don't agree with the cops' choice to "walk" him, which escalated the incident |
jpgray |
Sep-19-07 02:00 AM |
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Thanx for posting this |
JohnnyRingo |
Sep-19-07 02:34 AM |
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Historical perspective |
Apollo11 |
Sep-19-07 03:33 AM |
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John Kerry personally tasered this poor boy 27 times. |
onehandle |
Sep-19-07 06:10 AM |
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Thank you! |
Mad_Dem_X |
Sep-19-07 07:13 AM |
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Kerry's inaction is what he did wrong |
DWilliamsamh |
Sep-19-07 07:24 AM |
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I disagree with your assessment wholeheartedly... |
MessiahRp |
Sep-19-07 07:54 AM |
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It's fine that you disagree.... |
DWilliamsamh |
Sep-19-07 09:13 AM |
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The only problem with your analysis is that |
truedelphi |
Sep-19-07 03:13 PM |
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Right on! |
rucognizant |
Sep-19-07 08:45 AM |
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Not to get off topic but you're saying Michelle Obama is bad for not leaving her kids to campaign? |
MessiahRp |
Sep-19-07 09:07 AM |
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I've tried to ignore this incident for the inevitable Monday morning quarterbacking... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Sep-19-07 07:24 AM |
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i am among the outraged but am baffled by any directed towards Kerry |
mark414 |
Sep-19-07 07:50 AM |
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Me, too. Outrage at cops using Taser, not at Kerry, |
DemBones DemBones |
Sep-19-07 08:26 AM |
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Exactly- I think what happened here was horrible |
nam78_two |
Sep-19-07 07:15 PM |
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Thank you |
thetaoofterri |
Sep-19-07 08:22 AM |
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If a Senator stands by and watches........... |
BlueJac |
Sep-19-07 08:36 AM |
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Wrong on all counts. |
MessiahRp |
Sep-19-07 09:17 AM |
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This is the point. |
5446 |
Sep-19-07 09:18 AM |
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This was not about asking questions. |
MessiahRp |
Sep-19-07 09:27 AM |
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Your post is a monument to idiocy everywhere! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Sep-19-07 09:43 AM |
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Because furniture is, like, inanimate |
Apollo11 |
Sep-19-07 11:05 AM |
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K & R |
rosesaylavee |
Sep-19-07 09:15 AM |
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I think anyone that cuts in line... |
jdadd |
Sep-19-07 09:39 AM |
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DUer Please! |
Unca Jim |
Sep-19-07 11:01 AM |
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I could have guessed as much. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-19-07 11:12 AM |
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THE GUY WAS TAZERED FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!! |
FedUp_Queer |
Sep-19-07 11:49 AM |
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Personally I am glad he was tazered...voltage was too low... |
rfranklin |
Sep-19-07 01:53 PM |
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Sorry - I don't buy Kerry's explanation |
Apollo11 |
Sep-19-07 11:53 AM |
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I do not buy it either. |
MetalCanuck |
Sep-19-07 12:24 PM |
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LOL! You are about a subtle as a freight train |
Vinnie From Indy |
Sep-19-07 01:45 PM |
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Compare and contrast |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-19-07 12:39 PM |
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Not really a analagous comparison. Confrontive |
cadmium |
Sep-19-07 03:40 PM |
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If Kerry Has To Be Responsible |
Raejeanowl |
Sep-19-07 01:09 PM |
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what kerry did wrong was |
lame54 |
Sep-19-07 01:12 PM |
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For all the people defending the police/kerry... |
Musty |
Sep-19-07 01:14 PM |
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EXACTLY... |
FedUp_Queer |
Sep-19-07 01:56 PM |
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and you do? |
paulk |
Sep-19-07 04:55 PM |
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This is a misleading post---There is a difference |
cadmium |
Sep-20-07 07:01 PM |
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I love Kerry... |
jodini |
Sep-19-07 02:16 PM |
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I'm listening |
Spoonerian |
Sep-19-07 02:19 PM |
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Utter Bullshit! I just watched the entire video. There is NO excuse for what |
Emillereid |
Sep-19-07 02:34 PM |
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I does matter what Kerry could see. No excuse for the tasing but |
cadmium |
Sep-19-07 03:35 PM |
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I don't know what video you watched -- but there was no way that the |
Emillereid |
Sep-19-07 05:31 PM |
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Dam right! |
Apollo11 |
Sep-20-07 06:43 AM |
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The best video is the one |
cadmium |
Sep-20-07 06:48 PM |
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Yeah, I'd blame a very reactionary police force than Kerry here. He was answering from what I heard. |
cooolandrew |
Sep-19-07 02:45 PM |
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I voted for John Kerry in '04. eom |
smiley_glad_hands |
Sep-19-07 04:21 PM |
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Senator Kerry is one of our best senators.nt |
nam78_two |
Sep-19-07 07:12 PM |
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Fine. Whatever. I'd like the answer to the question |
DS1 |
Sep-19-07 07:13 PM |
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He's answered many times already, |
dailykoff |
Sep-19-07 07:30 PM |
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How about Skull and Bones? |
DS1 |
Sep-19-07 07:40 PM |
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What it sounds like. |
dailykoff |
Sep-19-07 08:05 PM |
#139 |
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