Iris
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Fri Jun-08-07 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #42 |
| 45. perhaps you just don't like to have this idea put into a context |
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that might suggest that one life could be lost,even in its youngest, most fragile stage, and yet life goes on (and sometimes even through the same mother's body at a different time).
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| -When life "begins" and how. |
usregimechange |
Jun-07-07 10:25 AM |
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There is life in cancer cells. |
Sapere aude |
Jun-07-07 10:27 AM |
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In fact, a little too much. |
usregimechange |
Jun-07-07 10:28 AM |
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exactly so.... |
mike_c |
Jun-07-07 10:28 AM |
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When young men and women in their late teens through say early 40's die from |
whistle |
Jun-07-07 11:35 AM |
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?? |
Richardo |
Jun-07-07 10:31 AM |
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It is framed so poorly because that lie helps in a debate. |
usregimechange |
Jun-07-07 10:33 AM |
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It's convenient (for one side) when the question is framed in that ignorant way. (NT) |
Tesha |
Jun-07-07 10:57 AM |
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Exactly. Otherwise we are debating onions and bananas |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-07 04:40 PM |
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I don't even consider that to be the question. |
Left Is Write |
Jun-07-07 10:16 PM |
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EXACTLY!!.. |
Madspirit |
Jun-08-07 06:21 PM |
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Life begins when you start costing someone money... |
bleedingheart |
Jun-07-07 10:32 AM |
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LOL! |
Clark2008 |
Jun-07-07 10:34 AM |
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you are welcome |
bleedingheart |
Jun-07-07 10:36 AM |
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Congratulations! |
astonamous |
Jun-07-07 10:40 AM |
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I thought life began at 30? |
unpossibles |
Jun-07-07 10:36 AM |
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NOOOooo... |
Kazak |
Jun-07-07 10:53 AM |
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There's only one way to debate "the life" issue with a freeper |
Norquist Nemesis |
Jun-07-07 10:36 AM |
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According to the Bible, HUMAN life begins with breath.... |
Yoda Yada |
Jun-07-07 10:41 AM |
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Sorry, that was from Genesis 2:7 nt |
Yoda Yada |
Jun-07-07 10:42 AM |
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Good Point! |
Mark D. |
Jun-07-07 11:14 AM |
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so you're suggesting that a fetus in utero is not alive...? |
mike_c |
Jun-07-07 02:07 PM |
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actually, the bible is suggesting it...well, stating it, actually... |
QuestionAll |
Jun-07-07 10:07 PM |
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I don't know how to break this to you, but MOST living organisms... |
mike_c |
Jun-08-07 09:37 AM |
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Name removed |
Jun-08-07 11:32 PM |
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i don't know how to break this to you, but i specified HUMAN organisms. |
QuestionAll |
Jun-09-07 10:40 AM |
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This is usually the tack that I take with the literalists... |
annabanana |
Jun-09-07 10:47 AM |
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LIfe begins when the kids leave for college. (NT) |
Tesha |
Jun-07-07 10:58 AM |
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Yep |
Bjornsdotter |
Jun-08-07 09:52 AM |
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The question is when does an individual life begin. |
rug |
Jun-07-07 11:10 AM |
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When life begins is not relevant to abortion rights. |
mondo joe |
Jun-07-07 11:13 AM |
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Of course it's relevant. It's fundamental (if you'll pardon the expression) |
Richardo |
Jun-07-07 04:03 PM |
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To the contrary: A woman has the right to abort a fetus whether it's a life or not. |
mondo joe |
Jun-07-07 04:38 PM |
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I agree. |
Left Is Write |
Jun-07-07 10:17 PM |
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Really Really Narrow Minded Sentiment. When Life Begins Is Thoughtful Topic For Anyone, Not Just |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-07-07 11:38 AM |
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so do you think there is "nothing wrong" with believing... |
mike_c |
Jun-07-07 02:09 PM |
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And is the life that exists after conception not a different life? |
rug |
Jun-07-07 04:09 PM |
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what is "a different life...?" |
mike_c |
Jun-07-07 09:39 PM |
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That's deliberately obtuse. |
rug |
Jun-07-07 10:17 PM |
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I don't think it's the least bit obtuse-- it's what I teach in my biology courses.... |
mike_c |
Jun-08-07 09:32 AM |
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It means The Circle of Life is not an answer to the question of |
rug |
Jun-08-07 11:06 AM |
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No it's not. |
Iris |
Jun-08-07 09:50 AM |
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It does have a nice zen tone to it but the question is when an individual's life begins. |
rug |
Jun-08-07 11:07 AM |
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When an individual's life begins is not relevant to abortion rights. |
mondo joe |
Jun-08-07 11:09 AM |
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It is relevant. The question is whose right predominates. |
rug |
Jun-08-07 11:16 AM |
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I'm saying it doesn't matter if a fetus is an individual or not. |
mondo joe |
Jun-08-07 11:40 AM |
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But you are saying viability does matter. |
rug |
Jun-08-07 12:13 PM |
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Of course it does. If a fetus cvould be viably removed, abortion would |
mondo joe |
Jun-08-07 12:22 PM |
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Viability is a factual question based in biology. |
rug |
Jun-08-07 12:34 PM |
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Viability already limits terminations. |
mondo joe |
Jun-08-07 12:44 PM |
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Do you support that limitation? |
rug |
Jun-08-07 02:38 PM |
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perhaps you just don't like to have this idea put into a context |
Iris |
Jun-08-07 11:17 AM |
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I like ideas in any context. |
rug |
Jun-08-07 11:21 AM |
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To be honest, I don't know when life begins. That's why I'd never |
Iris |
Jun-08-07 11:35 AM |
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so when do you propose that "an individual" was not alive? |
mike_c |
Jun-08-07 05:51 PM |
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You did not exist prior to syngamy. Your constituent parts did but you did not. |
rug |
Jun-08-07 06:09 PM |
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my independent existence is a matter of perception, really.... |
mike_c |
Jun-08-07 06:19 PM |
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I'd go even further.... |
mike_c |
Jun-08-07 06:14 PM |
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It's both. |
rug |
Jun-08-07 06:29 PM |
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Then it's wrong to make laws based on certain individual interpretations and perceptions. |
Iris |
Jun-08-07 09:51 AM |
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That's Up To Interpretation And Perception. It's Not An Absolute. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-08-07 12:38 PM |
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what is "life"? |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-07 04:40 PM |
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I had once heard that "life" is only the journey to death... |
rasputin1952 |
Jun-08-07 11:41 AM |
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I have been informed by some RW fundy's that are in the know... |
rasputin1952 |
Jun-07-07 09:56 PM |
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lol |
MisterHowdy |
Jun-07-07 09:59 PM |
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I figure that killing 'half souls' is a better deal than |
rasputin1952 |
Jun-08-07 11:36 AM |
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The biblical quotes are about HUMAN life.... |
Yoda Yada |
Jun-08-07 12:26 PM |
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then that implies the human life differs from other life.... |
mike_c |
Jun-08-07 05:54 PM |
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I don't know the answer. I'm just saying that equating breath with.... |
Yoda Yada |
Jun-08-07 09:02 PM |
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Life begins January 21, 2009 |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jun-08-07 06:21 PM |
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I can't wait, it seems we've been holding our breath for a very long time |
OhioBlues |
Jun-09-07 10:20 AM |
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