Reply #17: you're not suggesting that the new law will result in fewer people with health insurance

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than is the case under Medicare.

Mediacare was a step -- a very big step. But for those who claim that those Democrats were "real" Democrats while the folks that moved the ball a bit farther forward are not real Democrats seem to be letting the old Democrats off the hook for not going further while setting the bar for the current Democrats at a height that no other group of Democrats previously were able to meet.