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Thu Apr-20-06 09:38 AM
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| 144. I agree that everyone should be treated with respect but I do |
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believe there are religions that do this.
The Catholic Church's position on gay issues is one of the main reasons that I left and the policy on annulment where the only way to get one is to pay outrageous sums of money is crazy.
We all have to find the way that works best for each of us. Best of luck to you in your journey!
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| -Can You Be A Completely Moral Person Without Organized Religion? |
ruggerson |
Apr-19-06 07:28 PM |
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YES |
madmunchie |
Apr-19-06 07:28 PM |
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
muntrv |
Apr-19-06 07:28 PM |
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Yes, without a doubt. No question about it. eom |
madeline_con |
Apr-19-06 07:29 PM |
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Yes. |
XanaDUer |
Apr-19-06 07:29 PM |
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Not a crutch |
China_cat |
Apr-19-06 07:29 PM |
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Good way to put it! LOL! |
msgadget |
Apr-19-06 07:30 PM |
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Yep. |
H2O Man |
Apr-19-06 07:30 PM |
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Very well said, my friend |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Apr-19-06 07:34 PM |
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Right. |
H2O Man |
Apr-19-06 07:40 PM |
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Ho Metaquiatsun |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Apr-19-06 07:55 PM |
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Great! |
H2O Man |
Apr-19-06 08:00 PM |
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Religion is a handicap |
Left Below |
Apr-19-06 07:30 PM |
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yes, fellow freethinker. |
cain_7777 |
Apr-20-06 07:30 AM |
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And then there are people like KKK Rove who are |
Hardrada |
Apr-19-06 07:30 PM |
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I daresay |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Apr-19-06 07:31 PM |
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I think a person is also braver, knowing there is no reward |
Hardrada |
Apr-19-06 07:33 PM |
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It's also a far more altruistic motivation |
ruggerson |
Apr-19-06 07:36 PM |
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Although I will amend that |
ruggerson |
Apr-19-06 07:50 PM |
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I resemble that comment :-) |
madokie |
Apr-19-06 07:45 PM |
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Bingo, my friend |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Apr-19-06 08:32 PM |
#66 |
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Yes! |
cain_7777 |
Apr-20-06 07:33 AM |
#114 |
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I suppose. |
HuckleB |
Apr-20-06 08:22 AM |
#128 |
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Of course |
LeftyMom |
Apr-19-06 07:31 PM |
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Of course. It's a stupid question. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Apr-19-06 07:32 PM |
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You don't need religion to have a belief system |
marbuc |
Apr-19-06 07:33 PM |
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But, can you have a moral belief system, |
jedr |
Apr-19-06 07:49 PM |
#37 |
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Interesting. |
H2O Man |
Apr-19-06 07:56 PM |
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I know people that have had limited exposure to religion |
marbuc |
Apr-19-06 07:57 PM |
#46 |
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I don't think that anyone can be totally insulated from religion; |
jedr |
Apr-19-06 08:03 PM |
#52 |
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I will tell you this: |
marbuc |
Apr-19-06 08:10 PM |
#59 |
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Unless your moral system is based on logic... |
antigone382 |
Apr-19-06 10:19 PM |
#79 |
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So, for example, |
ruggerson |
Apr-20-06 12:33 AM |
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late post , hope you get to read it; |
jedr |
Apr-20-06 07:00 AM |
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not true. |
antifaschits |
Apr-20-06 08:15 AM |
#125 |
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Yes. nt |
jody |
Apr-19-06 07:33 PM |
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I am living proof....! |
SnoopDog |
Apr-19-06 07:35 PM |
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Absolutely!!!!! |
suziedemocrat |
Apr-19-06 07:35 PM |
#18 |
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Does the Pope shit in the woods? |
Ezlivin |
Apr-19-06 07:35 PM |
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You can ask... |
marbuc |
Apr-19-06 08:04 PM |
#54 |
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I love that comment, lol |
DIKB |
Apr-20-06 06:39 AM |
#95 |
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Yes, and maybe the opposite is more true |
Xeric |
Apr-19-06 07:37 PM |
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Your post reminds me of a Mark Twain Quote: |
Blue Belle |
Apr-20-06 12:08 PM |
#154 |
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I've always thought of this as one of my big strengths |
Mr_Spock |
Apr-19-06 07:37 PM |
#22 |
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no |
maxsolomon |
Apr-19-06 07:38 PM |
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Urm, did you perchance neglect to include a |
karlrschneider |
Apr-19-06 07:42 PM |
#27 |
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i'm sick of the sarcasm simile! |
maxsolomon |
Apr-20-06 10:53 AM |
#145 |
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Do you know what a conscience is? |
SofaKingLiberal |
Apr-20-06 01:32 AM |
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Hello Machiavelli, Leo Strauss, |
rman |
Apr-20-06 07:39 AM |
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I thought it was LEVI Strauss |
corkhead |
Apr-20-06 11:39 AM |
#153 |
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definitely Leo Strauss |
rman |
Apr-20-06 12:23 PM |
#155 |
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LOL |
gollygee |
Apr-20-06 09:29 AM |
#140 |
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There really is not much need of any "moral code" beyond what's |
karlrschneider |
Apr-19-06 07:38 PM |
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Call on me ....... call on me. |
Botany |
Apr-19-06 07:38 PM |
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absolutely |
ixion |
Apr-19-06 07:39 PM |
#25 |
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Republicans solve every issue with "Fear" |
Lost-in-FL |
Apr-19-06 07:42 PM |
#28 |
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YES!!!!!! |
hobbit709 |
Apr-19-06 07:45 PM |
#29 |
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Ouch |
Lost-in-FL |
Apr-19-06 07:46 PM |
#31 |
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Absolutely yes. - n/t |
porphyrian |
Apr-19-06 07:46 PM |
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Oh My God...YES!! Absolutely. Wingnuts are religious..not spiratual. |
paparush |
Apr-19-06 07:47 PM |
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Buddhism has been around for 2,600 years, it isn't a religion.. |
sam sarrha |
Apr-19-06 07:47 PM |
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For some reason sam sarrha, when I have mentioned that Buddhism isn't |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-20-06 07:13 AM |
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everybody has to start where they are.. i see it as a psychology, untill |
sam sarrha |
Apr-20-06 11:11 AM |
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Thank you for your excellent explanation. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-20-06 12:46 PM |
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Comprehensively. |
understandinglife |
Apr-19-06 07:48 PM |
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It would be nice if more people wouldn't tie spirituality to it. n/t |
cynatnite |
Apr-19-06 07:49 PM |
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yep |
GreenInNC |
Apr-19-06 07:51 PM |
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Of course you can but you misunderstand the value of faith |
Perky |
Apr-19-06 07:52 PM |
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Can you be a completely moral person and go to your job tomorrow? |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-19-06 07:53 PM |
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I was raised Catholic, thus racist, sexist, and destructive |
Submariner |
Apr-19-06 07:55 PM |
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not only can i be completely moral, in todays times and religion |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-06 07:55 PM |
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Depends. |
EST |
Apr-19-06 07:58 PM |
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We know that people can be highly immoral with religion, so... |
TechBear_Seattle |
Apr-19-06 07:58 PM |
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Of course |
W_HAMILTON |
Apr-19-06 07:59 PM |
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Nope. You gotta have a building and a preacher and a schedule |
kurth |
Apr-19-06 07:59 PM |
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Well, of course. |
Just Me |
Apr-19-06 08:03 PM |
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What a strange question. |
Yollam |
Apr-19-06 08:05 PM |
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Of course |
Everybody |
Apr-19-06 08:05 PM |
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Of course! I know atheists who are more Christian that Christians. |
KansDem |
Apr-19-06 08:06 PM |
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TOTALLY! |
PretzelzRule |
Apr-19-06 08:09 PM |
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Depends what one's definition of morality is |
mandyky |
Apr-19-06 08:13 PM |
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About 110% more moral than a significant number of the religious. |
sinkingfeeling |
Apr-19-06 08:16 PM |
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Yes, yes, one thousand times, YES. |
kgfnally |
Apr-19-06 08:17 PM |
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can you be a completely moral person WITH organized religion? |
QuestionAll |
Apr-19-06 08:21 PM |
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I don't think the mainstream religions cover much morality at |
Cleita |
Apr-19-06 08:22 PM |
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Absolutely. nt |
bklyncowgirl |
Apr-19-06 08:24 PM |
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These Republicans DO need a fundamentalist structure |
melody |
Apr-19-06 08:34 PM |
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Do people assume that religious people are moral? I don't, i take each |
chimpsrsmarter |
Apr-19-06 08:37 PM |
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Thats what we all should do and not |
augie38 |
Apr-19-06 09:26 PM |
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Organized religion's influence is inescapable ... |
twenty2strings |
Apr-19-06 08:44 PM |
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yes |
jukes |
Apr-19-06 08:57 PM |
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Of course. I know a number of atheists who are among the most decent, |
grannylib |
Apr-19-06 08:59 PM |
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I'm one of those decent, etc., atheists. |
RebelOne |
Apr-20-06 07:42 AM |
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It Depends On Whose Morals You Consider |
Southpawkicker |
Apr-19-06 09:04 PM |
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I long for the day when the bias swings the other way |
Solly Mack |
Apr-19-06 09:33 PM |
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Of course |
ruggerson |
Apr-20-06 12:46 AM |
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Morality has nothing to do with religion. |
DanCa |
Apr-19-06 09:56 PM |
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Easier without it. Much easier. I want to hurt people in church. |
NoSheep |
Apr-19-06 09:57 PM |
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Orthodox pious LIEberman is OK with |
Hardrada |
Apr-19-06 10:06 PM |
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Well DUH-hhhhuuuhhhhh n/t |
UTUSN |
Apr-19-06 10:08 PM |
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Well, yes, given that NOBODY is perfect....... |
kestrel91316 |
Apr-19-06 10:48 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-19-06 10:51 PM |
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A very silly question. It would have been better had the question |
ladjf |
Apr-19-06 11:19 PM |
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Bing, bing, bing! Answer of the Day. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-20-06 12:39 AM |
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Can you be a completely moral person WITH organized religion? |
dansolo |
Apr-19-06 11:20 PM |
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More so. I was raised in a fundie church and school. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-06 12:36 AM |
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reminds me of a part in the movie "Saved" |
newspeak |
Apr-20-06 12:52 AM |
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Yes. I'm not sure you can be a completely moral person WITH religion. |
Neil Lisst |
Apr-20-06 12:41 AM |
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Strong Yes. nt |
greyl |
Apr-20-06 12:48 AM |
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I vote Yes. But the tag sales are better in organized religion. |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-20-06 01:27 AM |
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yeppers. |
fleabert |
Apr-20-06 01:36 AM |
#93 |
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yes... ...NT |
Karenca |
Apr-20-06 01:43 AM |
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Yes! I am more Christian than most who claim they are..and I was born |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-20-06 06:48 AM |
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Yes, and I understand eclectic, too! |
katinmn |
Apr-20-06 06:56 AM |
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Same here katinmn. :) eom |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-20-06 07:10 AM |
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Do you mean |
0007 |
Apr-20-06 07:22 AM |
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If organized religion e.g. as manifested by Christian churches |
niallmac |
Apr-20-06 07:02 AM |
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you can be a perfectly moral person without god or religion |
lionesspriyanka |
Apr-20-06 07:06 AM |
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I don;t think anyone can be COMPLETELY moral regardless of rel. |
aikoaiko |
Apr-20-06 07:08 AM |
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Yes you can be moral without organized religion |
flblu2 |
Apr-20-06 07:08 AM |
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Of course... |
sendero |
Apr-20-06 07:08 AM |
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Yes |
tlsmith1963 |
Apr-20-06 07:11 AM |
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Absolutely. |
sparosnare |
Apr-20-06 07:17 AM |
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I totally agree that religion can be used this way but I believe |
truckin |
Apr-20-06 08:21 AM |
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No religion has an exclusive on morality... |
hexola |
Apr-20-06 07:20 AM |
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More likely, I'd say. (NT) |
Tesha |
Apr-20-06 07:20 AM |
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Don't know anyone who is "completely moral." |
ehrnst |
Apr-20-06 07:23 AM |
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Nonbelievers are much more moral than religious people! |
cain_7777 |
Apr-20-06 07:27 AM |
#112 |
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Can You Be A Completely Immoral Person With Organized Religion? |
rman |
Apr-20-06 07:37 AM |
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morality is in the eye of the beholder |
michiganbuckeye1970 |
Apr-20-06 07:45 AM |
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Yes you can. |
SunDrop23 |
Apr-20-06 07:51 AM |
#119 |
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"And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good -- |
Buns_of_Fire |
Apr-20-06 07:52 AM |
#120 |
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No, no one is completely moral with or without religion. However, |
truckin |
Apr-20-06 07:56 AM |
#121 |
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Why is it more difficult? |
sparosnare |
Apr-20-06 08:01 AM |
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In my case I have found that I have led a better, less selfish life |
truckin |
Apr-20-06 08:10 AM |
#124 |
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Thanks for responding. |
sparosnare |
Apr-20-06 09:27 AM |
#137 |
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I agree that everyone should be treated with respect but I do |
truckin |
Apr-20-06 09:38 AM |
#144 |
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The annulment thing didn't woork out for Henry VIII either. |
Hardrada |
Apr-20-06 06:29 PM |
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Nonsense. I was raised by atheists and have never attended a |
Lorien |
Apr-20-06 07:40 PM |
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My sister is agnostic-leaning towards atheistic and leads a more Christian |
elehhhhna |
Apr-20-06 08:01 AM |
#122 |
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Absolutely! n/t |
Joe Fields |
Apr-20-06 08:19 AM |
#126 |
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I think it's much harder to be a moral person |
DoYouEverWonder |
Apr-20-06 08:22 AM |
#129 |
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yes |
APPLE314 |
Apr-20-06 08:25 AM |
#130 |
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Only if you sing hymns |
progressoid |
Apr-20-06 09:00 AM |
#131 |
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You got it! |
DVJNU |
Apr-20-06 09:19 AM |
#135 |
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You can? |
NoMoreMyths |
Apr-20-06 09:02 AM |
#132 |
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I would also add |
DVJNU |
Apr-20-06 09:13 AM |
#133 |
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Yes, absolutely eom |
Carni |
Apr-20-06 09:14 AM |
#134 |
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morality hasn't a damn thing to do with religion (n/t) |
Triana |
Apr-20-06 09:23 AM |
#136 |
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Not if your going to run for office it seems. |
newportdadde |
Apr-20-06 09:27 AM |
#138 |
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Perhaps even more so. |
SmokingJacket |
Apr-20-06 09:28 AM |
#139 |
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All you need is mental health and compassion, Bush clearly lacking |
soleft |
Apr-20-06 09:29 AM |
#141 |
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Of course not. |
BiggJawn |
Apr-20-06 09:35 AM |
#142 |
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I don't think it's possible to be a completely moral person either way. |
Marr |
Apr-20-06 09:36 AM |
#143 |
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Yes of course... Also, you can be very immoral with religion |
nini |
Apr-20-06 10:55 AM |
#146 |
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IMHO ethics and morality are independent from religious observation |
wryter2000 |
Apr-20-06 10:55 AM |
#147 |
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People do not dictate morality |
PATRICK |
Apr-20-06 10:59 AM |
#148 |
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Yes, of course! |
ceile |
Apr-20-06 11:00 AM |
#149 |
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Of course you can. NT |
baby_mouse |
Apr-20-06 11:04 AM |
#150 |
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Some of the most Immoral people in the World are "religious" |
Blue Belle |
Apr-20-06 11:35 AM |
#152 |
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Yes. |
Ex Lion Tamer |
Apr-20-06 12:47 PM |
#157 |
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It's all academic ... I wasn't planning on being completely moral anyway. |
eppur_se_muova |
Apr-20-06 06:06 PM |
#158 |
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No. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Apr-20-06 06:30 PM |
#160 |
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I want one of those get out of jail free cars |
Hardrada |
Apr-20-06 06:34 PM |
#161 |
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YES.... |
DemGirl7 |
Apr-20-06 07:23 PM |
#162 |
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I'm a very moral atheist |
Lorien |
Apr-20-06 07:34 PM |
#163 |
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Sure. But one can also participate in organized religion |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-20-06 08:02 PM |
#165 |
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Please excuse a bit of cynacism, |
LearnedHand |
Apr-20-06 11:39 PM |
#166 |
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