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Sun Sep-24-06 06:50 AM
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| 21. I'm hoping we've heard little from the Democrats because |
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they've got a surprise revolt planned during the debate over the legislation. Sadly, this shouldn't be an "us" or "them" debate. It should be about what's "right" and what's "wrong." If our country morphs into something Idi Amin would be proud to lead, all is lost.
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| -The torture issue is "The Chance of a Lifetime" for Dems. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-23-06 11:15 PM |
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Recommended |
Solly Mack |
Sep-23-06 11:20 PM |
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Thanks! Appreciate it! |
scarletwoman |
Sep-23-06 11:23 PM |
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I'll help keep it kicked until I have to go |
Solly Mack |
Sep-23-06 11:27 PM |
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Ditto on the recommend. |
Jackpine Radical |
Sep-23-06 11:31 PM |
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The whole issue really does get the mind to working in overdrive |
Solly Mack |
Sep-23-06 11:37 PM |
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If the Democratic Party doesn't make a strong, unified statement on this, |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Sep-23-06 11:38 PM |
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I keep asking |
Solly Mack |
Sep-23-06 11:49 PM |
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Why do we have to wait, for prominent Dems to speak up about this? |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Sep-23-06 11:26 PM |
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K&R |
life_long_dem |
Sep-23-06 11:33 PM |
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"I don’t want in power regardless of what party they are in" |
upi402 |
Sep-23-06 11:40 PM |
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Bumper Stickers for the Campaign: Torture Endangers American Troops |
BurtWorm |
Sep-23-06 11:53 PM |
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What good does it do for "rank and file" to make these signs if the people |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Sep-24-06 12:03 AM |
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I hear you. |
BurtWorm |
Sep-24-06 12:15 AM |
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Absolutely spot on |
magellan |
Sep-24-06 12:08 AM |
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Up until this moment, the torture legislation, I had some hope. Hope for |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Sep-24-06 12:18 AM |
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Mayberry, I'm with you |
magellan |
Sep-24-06 01:19 AM |
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Been telling my wife this... |
Singular73 |
Sep-24-06 12:17 AM |
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It's NOT. So it's not only moral cowardice, but political STUPIDITY. |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Sep-24-06 12:18 AM |
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Morning kick... (nt) |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 05:24 AM |
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k + r |
deacon |
Sep-24-06 06:15 AM |
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I'm hoping we've heard little from the Democrats because |
Vinca |
Sep-24-06 06:50 AM |
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Oh wow. I said the same thing about Amin to my husband |
Solly Mack |
Sep-24-06 08:47 AM |
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Fact is, we don't need to read stuff like this. |
mmonk |
Sep-24-06 09:02 AM |
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I love this quote in the article: "Little Suzy Swingvoter and her husband |
specimenfred1984 |
Sep-24-06 09:13 AM |
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That's it in a nutshell |
Solly Mack |
Sep-25-06 11:46 AM |
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this is excellent but |
leftchick |
Sep-24-06 09:43 AM |
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I agree with you LC |
spanone |
Sep-24-06 09:48 AM |
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I am in despair, too. But I'll still make one more effort to push them |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 05:56 PM |
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i agree |
buddhamama |
Sep-24-06 09:55 AM |
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They all practice Politics at the expense of Governance. |
elehhhhna |
Sep-24-06 10:55 AM |
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K&R 4 wedge issue: Do Mr&Mrs BibleBelt think Jesus would condone torture? |
Tin Man |
Sep-24-06 11:56 AM |
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That's excellent! "Who would JESUS Torture?" |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 04:55 PM |
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Very compelling reply - you've made a great observation |
Tin Man |
Sep-24-06 05:26 PM |
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Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad you like what I wrote. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 05:34 PM |
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My 85-year-old mother feels the same way |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-24-06 10:33 PM |
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It's so incredibly sad. Our elders lived through so much, and learned so |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 11:11 PM |
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Go to any right-leaning website |
Mind Snapper |
Sep-25-06 11:41 AM |
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I don't expect this approach would 'flip' every right winger, but... |
Tin Man |
Sep-25-06 12:17 PM |
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Oh yeah, and welcome to DU, MindSnapper ! |
Tin Man |
Sep-25-06 12:19 PM |
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They won't call it "torture" but I agree we need to define torture as |
gully |
Sep-24-06 01:05 PM |
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I have been saying this |
yebrent |
Sep-24-06 01:26 PM |
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A vote for the GOP torture bill is an act of complicity to war crimes |
leveymg |
Sep-24-06 02:37 PM |
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"torture is a family value" |
progressoid |
Sep-24-06 02:54 PM |
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Here's the phrase: TORTURE KILLS AMERICA |
eviltwin2525 |
Sep-24-06 02:58 PM |
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"Who Would Jesus Torture?" is already on a sticker. |
tomreedtoon |
Sep-24-06 04:38 PM |
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A real pearl there... |
sweetheart |
Sep-24-06 04:46 PM |
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Namaste, sweetheart, and thank you. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 05:14 PM |
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There have been several possibilities to draw a line in the sand |
BelgianMadCow |
Sep-24-06 05:41 PM |
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Well, this is where the rubber really meets the road, isn't it. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 06:00 PM |
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based on the timing, I'd say it is |
BelgianMadCow |
Sep-24-06 06:21 PM |
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Thank you for your thoughtful reply. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 06:55 PM |
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I hear you - we are in the same boat |
BelgianMadCow |
Sep-24-06 07:17 PM |
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"We are all in the same boat." -- yes. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 07:43 PM |
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It demands a total ideological retrenchment, however |
sweetheart |
Sep-24-06 07:52 PM |
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And what are we left with, if not the Dharma? |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 08:55 PM |
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I postulate an enlightenment |
sweetheart |
Sep-24-06 09:06 PM |
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The tragedy IS mine. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 09:31 PM |
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my dinner with andre |
sweetheart |
Sep-24-06 09:42 PM |
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Never enter a battle of wits with a Sicilian. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 09:52 PM |
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...being otherwise executed |
sweetheart |
Sep-24-06 09:59 PM |
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The US doesnt torture people..... |
Ksec |
Sep-24-06 06:28 PM |
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Dems just gotta 'call em out' on their lies and misrepresentations |
Tin Man |
Sep-24-06 06:44 PM |
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The question is, WILL they? (nt) |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 06:56 PM |
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WHY do you hate 'murikkka, Scarlet Woman? |
BeHereNow |
Sep-24-06 07:58 PM |
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Dear BHN -- perhaps I love America too much. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 09:37 PM |
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I understand- my sarcasm is my defense mechanism... |
BeHereNow |
Sep-24-06 09:57 PM |
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Can someone point me to.. |
sendero |
Sep-24-06 08:04 PM |
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I'm sorry I don't have the link at hand, but there was a recent poll |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 08:45 PM |
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The whole point of the article.. |
sendero |
Sep-24-06 09:02 PM |
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Sorry. You asked in your post if any polling had been done on the question |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 09:21 PM |
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There's already an exception for the scenario that |
Spike from MN |
Sep-26-06 12:10 PM |
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I made a homemade bumpersticker that says: |
bear425 |
Sep-24-06 09:16 PM |
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Thank you. I don't know how to make my own bumper sticker, can you help? |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 09:28 PM |
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I just go to office depot and get either bumpersticker stock or |
bear425 |
Sep-24-06 09:42 PM |
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Thank you. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 09:50 PM |
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Oh, don't drive that far! |
bear425 |
Sep-24-06 10:02 PM |
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You're so sweet! Thank you again! |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 10:24 PM |
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K&R |
madmusic |
Sep-24-06 09:30 PM |
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Burn Baby BURN |
sweetheart |
Sep-24-06 09:45 PM |
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Thanks for this! I haven't seen the Daily Brew since the early days |
glitch |
Sep-24-06 10:19 PM |
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Thanks for your k&r -- I hadn't checked out the "Daily Brew" for a long |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 10:27 PM |
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Seems so long ago now, like from another time or dimension. |
glitch |
Sep-25-06 05:41 PM |
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K & R |
EnfantTerrible |
Sep-24-06 10:37 PM |
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When right-wingers say, "Yeah, but they're terrorists," I tell them |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-24-06 10:38 PM |
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WHICH DEMOCRATS ARE FOR TORTURE? |
savemefromdumbya |
Sep-24-06 10:48 PM |
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I don't know, but I would be totally unsurprised if some of the |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-24-06 10:53 PM |
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if Democrats support Bush on this one then they should flung out |
savemefromdumbya |
Sep-24-06 11:01 PM |
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Agreed |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-24-06 11:06 PM |
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FILIBUSTER NEEDED! |
savemefromdumbya |
Sep-25-06 12:27 PM |
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Which Democrats support an illegal, immoral war? |
EnfantTerrible |
Sep-24-06 10:59 PM |
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Any who are silent on the issue. Any that vote for any compromise. |
mmonk |
Sep-24-06 11:06 PM |
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I'm hoping folks will start calling and writing their Dem senators & reps |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 11:32 PM |
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Bedtime kick... |
scarletwoman |
Sep-24-06 11:48 PM |
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A kick before zzzzz's |
EnfantTerrible |
Sep-25-06 01:53 AM |
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morning kick... (nt) |
scarletwoman |
Sep-25-06 05:46 AM |
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Best thread on DU I've seen in a while |
Mind Snapper |
Sep-25-06 11:55 AM |
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Thanks. It's been very gratifying to see the interest this has generated. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-25-06 04:16 PM |
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Thanks for posting this, scarletwoman |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Sep-25-06 12:12 PM |
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You are so very welcome! I am outraged beyond endurance these days. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-25-06 04:25 PM |
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If the Dem Party was true ly an opposition party they would be all over it |
oc2002 |
Sep-25-06 12:25 PM |
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The sole purpose |
EnfantTerrible |
Sep-25-06 12:36 PM |
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Too late for an Rbut I can K, please send to your reps |
never cry wolf |
Sep-25-06 01:07 PM |
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Kick n/t |
EnfantTerrible |
Sep-25-06 01:38 PM |
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