Reply #124: That would be legal in Michigan.

[mccoyn]

At least up to a point. We can drive into the intersection to wait for the opposing traffic to clear. If it hasn't cleared by the time the light turns red we can make the left turn to clear the intersection. The crossroads traffic has to wait.

What this amounts to in busy intersections is that when the oncoming traffic stops at the yellow light a few people make the left turn knowing that the last one, who gets caught in the red isn't actually breaking the law.

Until a week ago I thought this was the law around the country, but we happened to be talking about it at work and it sounds like it isn't.