Reply #18: I think people want to externalize blame that belongs to the Democratic...

[porphyrian]

...party, in part if not entirely. Had Gore and the Democratic party had refused to back down on the recount, would we be in the same position? If Kerry and the Democratic party had refused to back down on the 2004 theft, would we be in the same position? Had any Democrat stood up to these bastards earlier, would we be in the same position? Yes, elections are rigged. Yes, Nader did play some roll in the 2000 loss. Yes, the Green party has accepted some GOP money (which I think is hilarious, not devious, I'd take their fucking money, too). However, a good deal of blame for the failure of the Democrats in three consecutive elections lies firmly with the Democratic party, and pointing fingers at everyone else is doing nothing for our future success. We (yes, I'm a registered Democrat) need to acknowledge our failures, take responsibility for them, and fix them before it's too late to ever make a difference again.