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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:10 AM
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A Challenge for Will Pitt re Rove Indictment coverage. $$$ for the DU
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I'm frankly sick of the weekly Leoplod "ROVE TO BE INDICTED NEXT WEEK" threads which take up space for other important issues.

I want Rove Indicted just as much as the next guy and spent over a year researching it myself, even made a film about it that many people have found helpful, but man, I really wish some people would do what Pitt said and TAKE A FREAKING BREATH, but for a different reason.

Once you do, you might want to take a look at the archives and check out what Leoplod has written before, either posted madly here by lots and lots of people, clogging up the Gen Discussion, and assailed with so much passion each time that now it's reached Hysterical proportions.

Haven't you wondered WHY all the MAJOR Blogs, the ones that have huge followings for a reason, they are fact checkers for the LEFT, haven't been posting any of this Leoplod crap? How about why ALL of the Media, who actually DO have tons of people investigating the "scoop of the decade" and want it BADLY, make no mention of any of what leopold is writing, like THEY have NO sources?

It's because it's sensationalism, wordsmithing at it's best, I'll give that to him. In some ways I'd say some of you have been Punk'd. Just like Tweety. Only Tweety isn't jumping up and down like it's TRUE ALREADY. It's not. It hasn't happened, anyone notice that?

Anyone remember that most sites of any integrity were writing (and even some of the MSM were saying it) that Rove would PROBABLY, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, be INDICTED within 10 days to TWO WEEKS. And that was over TWO WEEKS ago. I said it almost two years ago, it's in my film as proof.

Do you actually believe that EIGHT Republican Aides IN the White House would tell the TRUTH to anyone? If anyone else wrote this you'd be saying it was a ROVE TRICK, or that they are ALL LIARS and can't be trusted (and you'd probably be correct)..

Celebrate WHEN IT HAPPENS. This is nothing more than someone "predicting" something over and over until it finally happens (and since I DID all that research I personally am GODDAM sure Rove will be Indicted), once a week, twice a week.. it's like throwing a dart over and over at a dartboard until you score a bullseye and then claiming that you "won" the game (got the "scoop", which will vault you into the million buck DRUDGE catagory), when you didn't actually PLAY the game properly or fairly or by the rules. Then complaining that the "other guy" is cheating..

A SCOOP isn't had by crying "wolf" once or twice a week until something happens, that's just placing chips on ALL the markers on a roulette table so that you can "guarantee" that you "win", even tho what's lost may be more important that the win itself, integrity for the LEFT, so that WE do not look like a bunch of BOZO REPEATER STATIONS to the REAL media with all the money, who WE are trying to get to TELL the TRUTH. We cannot do that if WE DO NOT.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

C'Mon folks, I know you want it bad, but this hysteria is so overboard it's unbelieveable.

And none dare speak up for fear that those that want it SO BAD will fall on them like a rabid pack of wolves, and attack them for saying, "Hey, this guy is WRONG more than he's right.." Let's not give that gift TO the right, so they can kick us around. We LOSE POWER when this happens, or even look goddam silly.

I for one DO NOT believe Leopold anymore, don't think I did from the start. While he's supplied some information that a lot of people didn't know, and that's a good thing, he's also thrown a few turds in the stew, which to me render it inedible.

Now people are running all over the Internet saying that "MONDAY ROVE WILL BE INDICTED", and some people at least have the sense to remind people that "Leoplod never said 'monday', exactly".. which still sounds like a copout.. It's an open ended article, and artfully crafted as such, whereas before - the Target Letter had been delivered to Rove/Luskin a MONTH ago, according to Leopold's WORDS on the radio and posted here.. he's said it over and over "on the heels of a TARGET LETTER".. here as well and at Truthout.

Once again no major blog/news picked it up. Anyone paying attention to that? Or do you just not care, because that's even worse, and for all of us. You can attack me if you want, but I DO CARE if the Left is pushing bull or not. You want a Fair Media, Truth? Then you have to FIGHT for it, just like Freedom. Demand the truth and nothing less. And not forgive a Constant series of "mistakes", that's fine for missing dental appointments or losing keys, but NOT for one of the most important stories in our nation's history.

First Fitz is under NO obligation to deliver a Target letter, but if he did you can BET he wouldn't wait a MONTH or MORE to drag Rove before the Public Judge two floors down from the Grand Jury VERY SOON after they voted to Indict.

Okay, I have a challenge for Will Pitt

(Understand that I'm not saying that I think Will is a bad guy, far from it, and I'm sure he's pissed as hell at me now, but we used to get along pretty good, he even offered his own father's help to me in a personal crisis)..

But he mentioned in a thread that he's backing Leoplod "100%" and that he would "open his wallet and bet everything in it" (this was before THIS article that came out today, May 12th) that what Leoplod has written is CONCRETE (Will's exact words)..

Well, in an effort to keep the Left's Internet journalistic standards SO SQUEAKY CLEAN that the RIGHT cannot use our statements against us, I am willing to Challenge Will Pitt with a ONE THOUSAND DOLLAR donation, to the DU By the Losing party.

I claim that there was NO Target Letter as described in the Legal Code used by Fitz that was delivered to Rove or Luskin ON OR ABOUT April 26th, the date of the article and claimed by Leopold and yourself as FACT on your site, and here as well.

We can use Firedoglake to make the call on this once all the facts are in, as they are both prosecutors and legals there, Jane Hamsher or Christie, as to whether a TRUE Target Letter was delivered (and I mean IN WRITING, not a "warning", or some phone call, a REAL TARGET LETTER per Code) on or before April 26th, 2006.

One simple fact in one article. But you can lose a Kingdom for want of a nail, and we need Truth in our (the Left's) Reporting more than ever.

Should I lose I will publicly apologise for having doubted that particular piece of information from you and Leoplod, both here and on my own website Takebackthemedia.com (but not for the multiple times Leopold cried wolf on the TIME of Indictments), While in Will's case, we ask that he print a retraction regarding the Target Letter's insertion in that article (as well as the next article where the Target Letter is inferred to as a FACT), that Leopold's article was dead wrong on both the Target Letter and insisting that an Indictment was pending so many times in a row, over weeks - (up to his "article" TODAY, where he is really saying that there is no fixed date, just soon.. )

(This is not to imply that I believe that Rove will be Indicted MONDAY or even perhaps this week, tho I may be wrong, I DO admit that I look forward to his Indictment ASAP, but I'm not going to join the masses in screaming "OH BOY TODAY IS THE DAY!" When it's really not indicated, just alluded to, there's no "there" there if you ask me.)

Well, Mr Pitt? Do you back your words, your man, his writing? I want you to know that another reason I make this challenge is to clear the name of Truthout. Believe it or not, it has come to my attention that there are now blogs claiming that TO has less integrity, very influential blogs/websites that could make your site less visible than it should be - not my site, we have never said one unkind word on it against TO, but we also don't want that loss of TO credibility to continue. We insist that TO be a shining example as it has been in the past, and that is mostly what I am striving for by making this gentlemanly Challenge to you.

This is not designed to inflame anyone, but to demand truth in left wing articles, especially in Historical episodes the like of which have never been seen before in our country. And to also disarm the right, so we can beat them. I know how it works, I've made them fold up like lawnchairs on television with FACTS. The right can't deal with FACTS.

But don't try to outbullshit them, you don't have enough money or staff, or reach. The TRUTH DOES, it's FREE and very Powerful when applied properly.

Let me know what's in your wallet. Maybe some folks might want to donate to TO so you can make the ante for this Challenge, might even help your site with some extra money.

From what you've said, it's a sucker bet, and I'm just the kind of fool to take you up on it. :)

I'll take that chance, and in the end the DU wins, I think that's a good deal, for all of us.
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