Reply #90: "Does that mean that it's not true?"

[mzteris]

No, it doesn't mean that it's "not true" - but I certainly wouldn't use it as a basis for determining guilt or innocence. OF COURSE they are going to say they didn't do it and that everything she says if false and everythey they say is true.

The real question is - why do you put more validity to what "they" claim than what "she" claims?

**As far as the official timeline is concerned, whose version are you referring to? **

There is no "official timeline" that is in the public purview. There are plenty of "personal opinion and conjecture timelines" - including that put out by the defense - which may - or may not - be any where close to accurate.

The only absolute time(s) we know - without a doubt are "true" is the ATM visit at 12:24 am by Reade Seligmann, some cell phone calls, the 911 calls, and the police activity. Everything else is pretty much approximated, etc. . . the photo timestamp COULD have been manipulated (maybe it was, maybe it wasn't - I'm not saying either is true, but it *could* have been so you can't really rely on them at this point in time.)

**Concerning the behavior of rape victims, I would still find it pretty odd that the accuser originally claimed to have been raped by twenty guys and then changed her story to three.***

AAAAAAAAAGgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh -------- That argument has been covered six ways from Sunday. The ONLY PERSON who SAID that she "said that" is the Duke "cop" - who evidently got his partial information from eavesdropping on one side of a phone conversation. He never talked to the the police, he never talked to any of the parties involved. He "heard" some comments and extrapolated his report from there. *That* story is a complete non-story......

Why does the first 911 call go to question the credibility of the witness? They DID hurl racial epithets. She may not have gone into complete detail about the circumstances - but the gist of what she said WAS true - what's your problem with her credibility? What was she supposed to say? Hey 911? I was dancing for hire at this party and the guys started yelling racial epithets and issuing threats. . .?

I've consistently stated that the line up - IF handled as the defense CLAIMS - was pretty screwed up. But that would hardly be the AV's fault now would it. And getting off on a technicality would be pretty sad, too.

Would you ever want your daughter to go out with even one of these guys?

Not MY daughter.