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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:34 AM
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13. ADDED Feb 14 editorial cartoon thread
A version of this same compilation is in the GD Forum:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x411916
thread title (2-14-06 GD): Thread COMPILATION on Cheney shooting/Fuddgate - including VIDEOS:

A cartoon to start this off:


DU threads on Cheney shooting - threads on videos are at the end:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2103377
thread title (2-12-06 LBN): Cheney Accidentally Shoots Fellow Hunter
Comment/excerpt: “Harry Whittington, 78, was "alert and doing fine" after Cheney sprayed Whittington with shotgun pellets on Saturday at the Armstrong Ranch in south Texas, said property owner Katharine Armstrong. Armstrong said Cheney turned to shoot a bird and accidentally hit Whittington. She said Whittington was taken to Corpus Christi Memorial Hospital by ambulance.”

Cheney’s “hunting” is bizarre anyway:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x395842
thread title (2-12-06 GD): There's something wrong w/ Cheney -- killed 70 TAME birds in one trip
Comment/excerpt: The poster notes “In one incident that received some press coverage, Cheney and his pals had 500 farm raised pheasants -- that is, birds that had lost their fear of people -- released before them. The party killed 417 birds in one day, with Cheney bagging 70 of the tamed animals himself. This is not hunting. This is slaughter. This represents the same mental illness that caused W to kill small animals as a child. Isn't wanton killing of small animals by children a sign of mental illness and a marker for violent criminal behavior in the adult?”

Tom Lehrer wrote a song about it years ago – many stanzas, all apropos:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x397685
thread title (2-12-06 GD): Dedicated to dead eye Dick: Tom Lehrer's "Hunting Song"
Comment/excerpt: “I always will remember,
'Twas a year ago November,
I went out to hunt some deer
On a morning bright and clear.
I went and shot the maximum the game laws would allow:
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.”


Humane Society President’s statement:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2104268
thread title (2-12-06 LBN): Humane Society statement on Cheney's accident

Interesting points on corporate media Fuddgate spin in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x400204
thread title (2-13-06 GD): A few things I've noticed about the shooting accident
Comment/excerpt: “First was the expected minimization of the incident and the downplaying of the wounds of a man who's still in intensive care. Most of these comments are from the ranch owner Katharine Armstrong, daughter of a former Halliburton director and professional Republican Pioneer bootlicker. … The true scope of Wittinton's injury is indicated in this Dallas Morning News article:
‘A friend who has talked to family members said that Mr. Whittington was hit by about 50 birdshot pellets. He underwent surgery Sunday morning to remove some of the pellets, and doctors have told his family that the shot apparently did not damage any major organs.’”


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2106728
thread title (2-13-06 GD): Cheney's companion at fault in shooting, White House says
Comment/excerpt: “White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan tried to absolve Cheney of blame for shooting wealthy Austin lawyer Harry Whittington, saying that hunting ‘protocol was not followed by Mr. Whittington when it came to notifying others that he was there. And so, you know, unfortunately, these types of hunting accidents happen from time to time.’ “

This one has helpful facts on gun safety and how Cheney ignored them:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x399869
thread title (2-13-06 GD): THINK FIRST, SHOOT SECOND. That guy took a full blast to the face. Period

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x399673
thread title (2-12-06 GD): Texas shooting: was Cheney drunk?
Comment/excerpt: Makes the point that there is NO EXCUSE for what happened: “Confirming one's target (which includes making certain no one is inadvertently down range) is one of the foremost rules of shooting and hunting: the very reason that in most states, accidentally shooting another human is not only felony criminal negligence (at the very least), but grounds for automatic lifetime revocation of hunting privileges.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x410749
thread title (2-13-06 GD): This gets better - Cheney doesnt even HAVE the proper hunting license!
Comment/excerpt: From CNN: “While the state Parks and Wildlife Department issued Cheney a warning for not possessing a required stamp on his hunting license, the sheriff's department said there was ‘no alcohol or misconduct involved in the incident.’ “

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x407114
thread title (2-13-06 GD): Smoking Gun has First Cheney Accident Report
Comment/excerpt: So the cover was light and Whittington was wearing “blaze orange” cap and vest – no wonder Cheney mistook him for a quail. Also says no alcohol was involved – but how could they know? Cheney was cited for not having the proper hunting stamp.

Caught off-camera: NBC WH correspondent furious about hushup of shooting:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x403709
thread title (2-13-06 GD): WOW! David Gregory v. McClellan go at it off camera. . .Tribune reports!
Comment/excerpt: “Why was the White House relying on a Texas rancher to get the word of Cheney's hunting accident out over the weekend, asked Gregory, accusing McClellan of ‘ducking and weaving.’ … ‘You don't have to yell,’ McClellan said. ‘I will yell,'' said Gregory, pointing a finger at McCellan at his dais. "If you want to use that podium to try to take shots at me personally, which I don’t appreciate, then I will raise my voice, because that’s wrong.’ “

All the victim’s fault, eh?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x408714
thread title (2-13-06 GD): "HUNTER SENTENCED TO ROAD WORK FOR ACCIDENTAL SHOOTING"
Comment/excerpt: Oregon instead of Texas, but still shows how false the spin has been. “01/16/2004 -Associated Press - A hunter who critically wounded another hunter in November after mistaking him for a deer was sentenced to 20 days on the sheriff's road crew.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x403640
thread title (2-13-06 GD): The guy Cheney shot was involved in Funeralgate (gravedumping by Bush pal)
Comment/excerpt: “In 1999, Bush named Austin lawyer Harry Whittington (shot this weekend by Dick Cheney) to be the new director of Texas State Funeral Commission after a major shakeup in which the former director, Eliza May, was fired while investigating accusations of grave-dumping by SCI, the largest funeral-home operator in the world, headed by Robert Waltrip, a longtime Bush friend and major campaign contributor.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x409282
thread title (2-13-06 GD): Character Issues & Collateral Damage
Comment/excerpt: Thoughtful H2O Man post on Whittington’s shooting by Cheney. Part of it: “Dick and friends tried to make it sound like it was the victim's fault. They said he didn't let the VP know he was coming up behind him. Please. The guy had an orange jacket. Then the story became that the sun was in Dick's eyes. You don't shoot anything (or anyone) you can't identify. But Cheney will blame his friend for his error. His friend becomes collateral damage, less important than poor Dick's reputation. These are serious character issues.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x411602
thread title (2-14-06 GD): For the record "Peppering"
Comment/excerpt: “Hunters call being "peppered" what happens when a guy a hundred yards away from you shoots at a bird flying up high and the shot after reaching its apogee, falls back to earth, under the power of gravity. The shot has no power behind it, and while it stings a little, it is harmless. It is like a baseball coming back to hit you in the head in the outfield, a far cry from a pitcher getting smacked by a line drive. Cheney fucking shot the guy at 30 paces, well within the killing range of a shotgun. This aint gettin "peppered" folks, it's called getting ‘BLOWN AWAY!’ “

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x410189
thread title (2-13-06 GD): How it happened?
Comment/excerpt: An amazing mathematical. analysis of guns, ammunition, logistics that concludes the WH version of events is distorted/untrue. Excerpt: “Short version: No matter how you slice it, Dick almost blew this guy’s head off. N.B. I wouldn’t be surprised if, since the target is quite old (esp. to be running around hunting), he has other health problems which might be exacerbated by this, leading to his demise. Dick may join Aaron Burr in the Killer-VP category, yet. Long version: I conclude the target was within 10 or 15 yards, at most, of Dick and possibly as close as 5 yards. My reasons for saying this are algebraic….”

thread title (2-14-06 GD): CNN BREAKING: Whittington back in ICU
Comment/excerpt: Only the announcement in the OP, but much more added as it was reported in the replies. Apparently the birdshot went much deeper than the WH claimed, and some made its way to his HEART. Makes it clearer why he was evacuated to ICU from a helicopter. Also a strange comment about the WH-associated doctor(s) confer with the hospital – is this for PR? Hard to imagine a medical reason for it. They claim that they can’t do surgery to remove the pellet(s) because “they don’t know where it is.” That sounds unlikely.
Links to this story update in replies in this thread:
Yahoo News: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060214/ap_on_re_us/cheney_whittington
CNN online: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/14/cheney/index.html


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2108432
thread title (2-14-06 LBN): BREAKING: Whittington suffers heart attack!
Comment/excerpt: “BREAKING NEWS Man shot and wounded by Vice President Cheney suffers ‘minor heart attack’ after birdshot becomes lodged in his heart, hospital spokesman says.” Links given in replies:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/14/cheney/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11340558


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x414197
thread title (2-14-06 GD): The Reason For the Cheney Coverup: He's Guilty of a FELONY under TX Law!
Comment/excerpt: berni_mccoy cites the Texas penal code.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x418049
thread title (2-14-06 GD): Attorney on Ed Schultz' Show just said he researched TX law, and {the reason the WH Drs are so involved in this Whittington case is that they're scared! TX law states "If a victim dies "WITHIN ONE YEAR" of a shooting incident, the shooter can be charged with involuntary manslaughter!}

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x417606
thread title (2-14-06 GD): Texas newpaper: Responsibility yours, Cheney; stand up and take it
Comment/excerpt: “You shot a guy. Don't blame the sun or the wind or the rotation of the Earth. And for goodness' sake, don't blame Harry Whittington....”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x421677
thread title (2-14-06 GD): Cheney Shooting scandal hostess -- over $20 BILLION business w/ Bush admi
Comment/excerpt: “The real scandal at Armstrong Ranch was not the accidental shooting of Whittington, but the fact that Cheney was undoubtedly discussing business with his hostesses while enjoying the lavish hospitality of this elite facility owned by that same hostesses-lobbyist.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x420662
thread title (2-14-06 GD): What Happens in Texas Hunting Accidents If You're Hispanic?
Comment/excerpt: “Juan Garza Mendoza, 34, an employee of the ranch, was charged Monday with manslaughter, a second-degree felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison.... ‘They mistakenly shot a human being,’ he {the sheriff} said. ‘It's reckless. It's inexcusable.’ “

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x420325
thread title (2-14-06 GD): MSNBC scrubs "beer or two" comment from its story...
Comment/excerpt: MSNBC reports Armstrong’s “there may have been a beer or two” comment and then quickly scrubs it from their site.
SCRUBBED MSNBC PAGE WITH "BEER" COMMENT FOUND:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x423888
thread title (2-14-06): Scrubbed MSNBC screenshot found!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x423637
thread title (2-14-06 GD): Ok, ONE MORE TIME FOR THE REALLY FUCKING DENSE PEOPLE
Comment/excerpt: “What the fuck is so hard to understand about that being a major fucking story? Yeesh. Say it again, to yourself, with objectivity: THE VP SHOT A GUY IN THE FACE W/ A SHOTGUN AND TRIED TO COVER IT UP (and was probably fucking shitfaced to boot). In the immortal words of South Park "This is some fucked up shit right here". We're in crazy, fucking bizarre, twighlight zone territory.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=411916&mesg_id=424664
post title (2-14-06 GD): MEDIA MATTERS raises important points about Rove's & Cheney's decisions:
Comment/excerpt: The two points they concentrate on in this Feb 14 article:
  • ”Media overlooked Armstrong's conflicting accounts of whether she coordinated with Cheney”
  • ”Media ignored Rove's involvement while reporting that Vice President's Office was solely responsible for delayed disclosure”


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x423196
thread title (2-14-06 GD): A closer look at Katherine Armstrong's story
Comment/excerpt: Six statements by Armstrong that do not bear up under examination

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2459660
thread title (2-14-06 GD-P): ED. CARTOONS - Cheney's Got A Gun! Series - 02/14/06

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x447676
thread title (2-16-06 GD): Whittington-Bush Texas Funeral Scandal
Comment/excerpt: gives a timeline for Funeralgate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x441178
thread title (2-16-06 GD): Serious issues with the Cheney storyline that the MSM are not asking!
Comment/excerpt: List of some of the important questions NOT being asked by the corporate Press.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x448048
thread title (2-16-06 GD): My, oh my. It never stops. Know who Whittington's wife is?
Comment/excerpt: Mercedes Baker Whittington, the sister of James A. Baker III.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x446747
thread title (2-16-06 GD): Franken asks - without doubt - THE BEST question so far about Cheney!!
Comment/excerpt: Why ddn’t Cheney go to the hospital?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x441616
thread title (2-16-06 GD): Cheney Partied On, After Sending Whittington to the ICU --->>>
Comment/excerpt: A compilation that gives a timeline for Cheney.

VIDEO clips related to Cheney shooting incident (from liveoaktx at Can-o-Fun):


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x408662
thread title (2-13-06 GD): VIDEO-Cheney Shooting with White House clips as handled by KO
Comment/excerpt: KO on Fuddgate, especially the delay in the reporting of it. McClellan ducking the questions of frustrated, angry WH reporters who want to know why the reporting was delayed 22 hours and came through a private citizen (the ranch owner). Someone also made the point that the Corpus Christi paper that broke the story is an AP paper and wanted to know why AP didn't pick it up for national dissemination

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x410214
thread title (2-13-06 GD): VIDEO- The Daily Show-Cheney ....; SHOT
Comment/excerpt: Possibly the funniest Jon Stewart show EVER. And absolutely devastating to the WH.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x425247
thread title (2-15-06 GD): VIDEO- The Daily Show Night 2 on Cheney SHOOTING SOMEONE IN THE FACE
Comment/excerpt: Jon gives his hilarity alert scale:
1. PANT WETTING
2. INCREDIBLY HILARIOUS
3. STILL FUNNY, BUT, MMM, NOW A LITTLE SAD
4. "FUNNY-STRANGE," NOT "FUNNY HA-HA"
5. BRECHTIAN
And because of Whittington’s heart attack, he downgraded the story from Level 2 to Level 3. If he dies, it will go to level 5, he said.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x410931
thread title (2-14-06 GD): VIDEO- Letterman Jokes about Cheney
Comment/excerpt: A two-parter Can-o-Fun set. Not as killingly funny or bitingly incisive as the Jon Stewart piece, but a LOT of time was spent on it and the WH was not given much respect.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x411333
thread title (2-14-06 GD): VIDEO- Craig Ferguson on Cheney-COMEDY
Comment/excerpt: Very funny, has some real zingers. One of them: “Finally there’s a secret that Dick Cheney’s office can keep..”

VIDEO - links to 2 Can-o-Fun clips for Feb 14 WH Press Conference:
For most of this, McClellan is blatantly dodging questions. He keeps insisting that they should "move on" to matters of more importance to "the American People." Some interesting comments from the reporters. One said that it "doesn't pass the sniff test." But that was NOT the Fox News reporter, who unctuously repeated McClellan's talking points rather than asking an actual question.
Part I: (shows David Gregory's frustration with McClellan's stonewalling):
http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=16719&mid=100728#M100728
Part II:
http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=16721&mid=100739#M100739

VIDEO - links to two Can-o-Fun clips from the Feb 14 Olbermann show:
From Can-o-Fun, links given to pages that load the video clips. One features an interview with Paul Burka of Texas Monthly about the shooting itself and the other features an interview with a doctor about the nature of the injuries. In the second one, Keith got temporarily confused about the distance numbers and said "90 yards" when he meant "90 feet or 30 yards." His clarification comes later in the clip.
Part I: Can-o-Fun title: VIDEO- Paul Burka on the Cheney Shooting
http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=16724&mid=100781#M100781
Part II: Can-o-Fun title: VIDEO- How Closely was Whittington Shot by Cheney?
http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=16725&mid=100783#M100783


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