Reply #4: In as much as I really adore all that Michael does. . .

[stellanoir]

and think he's a total hoot please consider this:

Though by far, most astrologers use the Gemini rising Independence Day chart, there is another far lesser known theory. It was put forth by David Solte who is no longer with us in form. It was his life's work really so I'm always compelled to share it since he passed on.

He was certain that though many feel the Declaration of Independence was when our country was formed, that was when we merely separated from England. It was a statement of intent and some historians have stated that many of the signatories didn't even see it or sign it for several months. Also, the Revolutionary War was still raging at the time.

David prefered to use the chart for when the Articles of Confederation was signed (November 15, 1777 7:52 am LMT, York PA) because, according to him, that was when the nation really came into form.

Even though I don't align myself with sun sign stuff for the most part, America has always seemed far more Scorpionic than Cancerian to me. Check out Jupiter in Leo in the 9th, Uranus in Gemini in the 7th, the Moon at 29 Taurus in the 6th near the descendant, Mercury conjuct Saturn in Scorp, Neptune on the midheaven in Virgo.

Just sayin'. . .