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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 11:33 PM
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20. There were multiple supplies and ways to supply. Problem is they ran out...
...before the disasters did.

A huge part of the problem here too, is there is little in the designs to ACCOMODATE failure and facilitate cleaning up the mess afterwards in a worst case situation.

Some of the seemingly more radical hardened/intrinsically safe designs don't attempt to make any heroic efforts at all to stave off meltdown. They simply include methods that force the progress of the meltdown along a desired safe path.
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  -Does radiation destroy electronics? Is this why robots aren't used. snagglepuss  Mar-17-11 03:10 PM   #0 
  - It is feasible to "harden" electronics against the effects of radiation.  DCKit   Mar-17-11 03:19 PM   #1 
  - Not devices specially "hardened' to resist effects of ionizing radiation.  leveymg   Mar-17-11 03:22 PM   #2 
  - I would have thought so. But if that is the case it is seems incomprehensible  snagglepuss   Mar-17-11 03:27 PM   #4 
     - This was the event that was "statistically impossible" So, no need to prepare. Right?  leveymg   Mar-17-11 03:41 PM   #6 
  - Apparently, yes. Per this inCREDible documentary, 'The Battle of Chernobyl"  nickyt   Mar-17-11 03:26 PM   #3 
  - Did the doc say whether the robots were designed specifically for  snagglepuss   Mar-17-11 03:30 PM   #5 
     - I don't remember, but I would imagine the answer is "probably not" -n/t  nickyt   Mar-17-11 03:53 PM   #7 
  - Robots have been used extensively in other serious nuclear accidents  Warpy   Mar-17-11 04:16 PM   #8 
  - Heat could be a problem...but ionizing radiation is too.  Wilms   Mar-17-11 04:33 PM   #9 
  - Spacecraft handle radiation  Blacksheep214   Mar-17-11 07:16 PM   #10 
  - You do need to know that the electronics are "hardened"  caraher   Mar-17-11 08:03 PM   #11 
  - From an electronic design point of view, you want remotely activated devices.  dimbear   Mar-17-11 08:06 PM   #12 
  - So then the only reason there is no remote controlled fire equipment that can withstand  snagglepuss   Mar-17-11 08:23 PM   #13 
     - Don't forget that it takes time to design  Blacksheep214   Mar-17-11 09:05 PM   #15 
     - But my point is that this sort of equipment should have been designed and built  snagglepuss   Mar-17-11 09:09 PM   #16 
        - Heck, with your advice applied those plants might be generating electricity right now.  Wilms   Mar-17-11 10:49 PM   #18 
        - There were multiple supplies and ways to supply. Problem is they ran out...  TheMadMonk   Mar-17-11 11:33 PM   #20 
     - Yes. Agree 100%.  dimbear   Mar-18-11 04:09 AM   #22 
  - Humans are cheaper than robots  Pharaoh   Mar-17-11 08:23 PM   #14 
  - Thanks for posting this question  felix_numinous   Mar-17-11 10:27 PM   #17 
  - Didn't I hear today that they sent drones over the nuclear plants today?  applegrove   Mar-17-11 11:23 PM   #19 
  - The machines that cleaned up Three Mile Island  LunaSea   Mar-18-11 02:31 AM   #21 
  - No  mva92   Mar-31-11 07:52 AM   #23 

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