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Tue May-25-10 02:27 PM
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you give me a cute little video on open minded. putting me in the anti vaccine, anti science group? please show where i have shown any position of being anti science, anti vaccine.
here is just one justification of you lack.... as you can see in every post you have directed at me.
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| -New study: many vaccines at once OK for kids |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 07:12 PM |
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The reasoning of the fearmongers never made sense anyway. |
trotsky |
May-24-10 07:22 PM |
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Tell that to the parents whose children are killed from these vaccines. |
truedelphi |
May-24-10 07:47 PM |
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Your proof the baby died from a vaccine IS????? |
Confusious |
May-24-10 07:57 PM |
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Here is some information from the Vaccine Information center |
truedelphi |
May-24-10 08:08 PM |
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I won't accept "information" from that site |
Confusious |
May-24-10 08:17 PM |
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An actual study on the issue found no evidence of such concerns. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 08:19 PM |
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VAERS... |
SidDithers |
May-24-10 08:22 PM |
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LOL!!! |
Odin2005 |
May-24-10 08:24 PM |
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HULK ANGRY! HULK HAD BAD REACTION! |
Confusious |
May-24-10 08:28 PM |
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+1 ... |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 08:33 PM |
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Wow. nt |
Robb |
May-25-10 07:00 AM |
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They so should not have given permission |
Dorian Gray |
May-25-10 08:13 AM |
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!!! |
Soylent Brice |
May-25-10 02:38 PM |
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VACCINE SMASHED! |
PVnRT |
May-26-10 11:42 AM |
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"a populace of people who are so dumbed down these days that they cannot think straight" |
trotsky |
May-24-10 08:56 PM |
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So let's help people be less dumbed down! |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 09:05 PM |
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I think that child was obviously killed by breathing air. Or drinking milk or formula. |
kestrel91316 |
May-24-10 10:31 PM |
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That air will get you every single time! |
truedelphi |
May-25-10 02:40 AM |
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Eh.... |
moriah |
May-26-10 05:37 AM |
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Yes indeed. |
mzmolly |
May-26-10 01:54 PM |
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SIDS Not Linked to Number and Variety of Childhood Vaccines |
HuckleB |
May-27-10 10:12 AM |
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Advising someone do that is shameful. Same as for one who died from allergic reaction to an |
uppityperson |
May-29-10 03:11 PM |
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Naïve theories of causal force and compression of elapsed time judgments. |
HuckleB |
Jun-01-10 09:01 AM |
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Your statement is misleading |
Tumbulu |
Jan-09-11 12:42 AM |
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Greetings to the anti-science crowd. Thanks for the unrecs! |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 07:32 PM |
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Thanks for pointing that out. |
cornermouse |
May-24-10 08:20 PM |
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I understand vaccines quite well. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 08:21 PM |
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The children who had the injection developed large welts |
cornermouse |
May-24-10 08:26 PM |
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LOL! |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 08:28 PM |
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before Corporate America started its drive to convince us that only |
truedelphi |
May-25-10 02:38 AM |
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Baseless fearmongering |
Orrex |
May-25-10 06:56 AM |
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That is BS. Anecdotes have NO place in science. and never have. |
Odin2005 |
May-25-10 08:01 AM |
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anecdotes used to be part of inductive reasoning |
Confusious |
May-25-10 09:02 AM |
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Syllogistic logic differs from inductive reasoning... |
truedelphi |
May-25-10 01:52 PM |
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However you want to put it |
Confusious |
May-25-10 04:22 PM |
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Newsflash: The researchers on this study were UNPAID! |
HuckleB |
Jun-03-10 06:02 PM |
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I am always puzzled when I read all these attacks on this forum |
Tumbulu |
Jan-12-11 01:11 PM |
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But can you prove that those welts were not the result of... |
truedelphi |
May-25-10 02:21 AM |
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The rate of occurrence of Gullian Barre is statistically insignificant |
Orrex |
May-25-10 06:54 AM |
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What's amazing to me is the rather large percentage of DUers who developed GB in the '70s. |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 08:26 AM |
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Indeed. |
Orrex |
May-25-10 10:18 AM |
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Yes of course, to statistic gatherers in the vaccine labs it is insignificant. |
truedelphi |
May-25-10 01:59 PM |
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You're making a lot of unsupported claims there. |
Orrex |
May-25-10 04:55 PM |
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Incidentally... |
Orrex |
May-25-10 07:19 PM |
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Really? |
Confusious |
May-25-10 09:17 AM |
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My mom got a flu shot and got GB, too. |
Th1onein |
May-25-10 09:35 PM |
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I'm sorry about your mother, and I don't question your grief |
Orrex |
May-25-10 11:20 PM |
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No, we shouldn't outlaw cars, but we shouldn't shield vaccine makers from lawsuits, either. |
Th1onein |
May-27-10 01:49 AM |
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But at what level of accountability? |
Orrex |
May-27-10 08:01 AM |
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What level of accountability? |
Th1onein |
May-28-10 02:48 PM |
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So you would agree that a handful of adverse reactions, out of millions of vaccines, is no big deal? |
Orrex |
May-28-10 07:04 PM |
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For someone who's such a logic expert |
PVnRT |
May-26-10 11:50 AM |
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No, since the vaccines don't have mercury |
Confusious |
May-24-10 08:30 PM |
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My kids started getting their vaccinations 31 and 29 years ago. |
cornermouse |
May-24-10 08:36 PM |
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No they didn't |
Confusious |
May-24-10 08:39 PM |
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Which Thimerosal-containing vaccines did they get? |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 09:04 PM |
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Oh christ....don't ask for facts when there's obviously anecdote...n/t |
msanthrope |
May-24-10 09:10 PM |
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I couldn't help myself. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 09:14 PM |
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Then you should really enjoy the outright lie otherwise known as |
cornermouse |
May-25-10 02:59 AM |
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Citation? |
Orrex |
May-25-10 07:13 AM |
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That's an interesting claim. |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 08:22 AM |
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Nobody to my knowledge says that giving children their shots on schedule raises their IQ |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-15-11 02:28 PM |
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May-25-10 06:57 AM |
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I got my pediatric vaccines 37-38 years ago. |
trotsky |
May-25-10 07:37 AM |
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Ouch! |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 08:20 AM |
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And I stand deleted. |
Orrex |
May-28-10 07:27 PM |
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Double ouch! |
HuckleB |
May-28-10 08:23 PM |
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Vaccines now often have formaldehyde. n/t |
truedelphi |
May-26-10 07:06 PM |
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Toxic myths about vaccines |
HuckleB |
May-26-10 08:06 PM |
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Moreover... |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-15-11 02:36 PM |
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K&R... |
SidDithers |
May-24-10 08:23 PM |
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May-24-10 08:24 PM |
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Yep. n/t |
msanthrope |
May-24-10 09:11 PM |
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The standard reply is "Did they have a vested interest in the outcome of the study" |
The Straight Story |
May-24-10 09:13 PM |
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k&r n/t |
tammywammy |
May-24-10 09:58 PM |
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k & r for science! |
neverforget |
May-24-10 10:11 PM |
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Thank you. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 10:52 PM |
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What about small sub-populations of vulnerable people? |
eridani |
May-24-10 11:03 PM |
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This all makes me glad my kids were babies "back in the day" |
SoCalDem |
May-24-10 11:09 PM |
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Actually, it's a great time to be a parent of young ones. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 11:15 PM |
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Overall that is true. This still does not answer the question of whether |
eridani |
May-25-10 05:23 AM |
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We know there are some "small, vulnerable sub-populations." |
trotsky |
May-25-10 06:44 AM |
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+1 |
Orrex |
May-25-10 06:58 AM |
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Thank you for this fine explanation. |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 08:20 AM |
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I think that people who are not vulnerable can afford a few free riders |
eridani |
May-25-10 07:26 PM |
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You're missing the point. Well, a couple of points. |
trotsky |
May-25-10 07:56 PM |
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It took quite awhile to resolve the weak (though significant) correlation of salt intake |
eridani |
May-26-10 01:44 AM |
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Two wholly different and incomparable physiological processes. |
trotsky |
May-26-10 06:38 AM |
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Both of our pediatricians did the same. |
Dappleganger |
May-25-10 07:30 PM |
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Your pediatrician did so by ignoring the evidence against there being any need for such practice. |
HuckleB |
Jan-08-11 10:32 AM |
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so what is the purpose of your statement? |
Tumbulu |
Jan-09-11 12:44 AM |
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Uh huh. |
HuckleB |
Jan-09-11 12:56 AM |
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Can you tell me all the immunology courses you have taken |
Tumbulu |
Jan-09-11 10:06 PM |
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Got red herring? |
HuckleB |
Jan-10-11 12:56 PM |
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I do not understand your reply |
Tumbulu |
Jan-10-11 10:52 PM |
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Jan-10-11 10:54 PM |
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insults- hmmm still no answer form you |
Tumbulu |
Jan-10-11 11:43 PM |
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There were no insults. |
HuckleB |
Jan-11-11 11:19 AM |
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Agreed. And, where are the studies that try to identify such people? |
mzmolly |
May-26-10 01:56 PM |
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Sounds like you've read far too much David Kirby fiction. |
HuckleB |
May-26-10 09:18 PM |
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Recommend! Nt |
xchrom |
May-25-10 05:48 AM |
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Prior to the advent of immunizations against the 'dread' diseases... |
hayu_lol |
May-25-10 08:00 AM |
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My grandmother walked with a limp all her life because of Polio. |
Odin2005 |
May-25-10 08:04 AM |
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And then there is the 'story' about a 15 day old named... |
hayu_lol |
May-25-10 08:24 AM |
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I am assuming that this is the post that SeaBeyond has referenced... |
hayu_lol |
May-25-10 02:36 PM |
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Yes, I believe it is. |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 06:02 PM |
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Do you have a link to the 50 dead by 16 statistic you note? |
mzmolly |
May-26-10 01:57 PM |
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NEUROLOGICA: Vaccines – Too Few, Too Late |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 08:43 AM |
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what you do accomplish on these threads... is shut people up. not change minds |
seabeyond |
May-25-10 08:48 AM |
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Thanks for your "opinion." |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 09:07 AM |
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May-25-10 09:12 AM |
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May-25-10 09:14 AM |
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hypocrisy? please point it out, instead of baseless accusation. wall? wtf are |
seabeyond |
May-25-10 09:15 AM |
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Hardly. |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 09:36 AM |
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and i think to laugh at a 15 day old baby's death, or accuse parents of negligent |
seabeyond |
May-25-10 09:56 AM |
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That excuses the hypocrisy you've offered up? |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 10:11 AM |
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no, there is not a hypocrisy on my part. you might look up hypocrisy. seems to be a challenge for |
seabeyond |
May-25-10 10:37 AM |
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Oh brother. |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 11:52 AM |
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no. generally i ignore these threads. it is laughing about the death of a 15 day old that prompted |
seabeyond |
May-25-10 01:38 PM |
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Well, you've made no point whatsoever. |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 02:09 PM |
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so |
seabeyond |
May-25-10 02:27 PM |
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And yet again you put words in my mouth. |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 02:34 PM |
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May-26-10 11:53 PM |
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Oh, and could you point out where the "laughter" is in the post about the 15-day-old baby dying? |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 01:17 PM |
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May-26-10 11:10 AM |
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Are vaccines perfect? No, but what is the alternative? |
MicaelS |
May-25-10 12:05 PM |
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see, i saw your post asking questions and got a bet excited. |
seabeyond |
May-25-10 01:45 PM |
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So what is your alternative to vaccination? n/t |
MicaelS |
May-25-10 02:24 PM |
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*sigh*. have i suggested anywhere there should not be vaccinations? nt |
seabeyond |
May-25-10 02:27 PM |
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Then WHAT precisely is your point? n/t |
MicaelS |
May-25-10 09:55 PM |
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I don't think there was one. |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 10:31 PM |
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I think her point is the |
Dorian Gray |
May-26-10 06:07 AM |
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Then why did she bring so much contentiousness to this thread? |
HuckleB |
May-26-10 03:13 PM |
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I don't know, |
Dorian Gray |
May-27-10 06:31 PM |
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She offered an extremely one-sided "aggravation." |
HuckleB |
May-28-10 03:38 PM |
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I remember us all standing in line in 1st grade=smallpox in one arm,dpt in the other |
w8liftinglady |
May-25-10 09:31 AM |
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Add chickenpox on, too. My daughters got vaccines for it. I was shocked because |
Jennicut |
May-25-10 01:47 PM |
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and, unless my information is old (possible) they still could get it as adults... |
fleabert |
May-25-10 02:18 PM |
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OMG OMG OMG you are anti science. how dare you question or have concerns |
seabeyond |
May-25-10 02:28 PM |
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i will just sit her quietly in the shame corner... |
fleabert |
May-25-10 02:42 PM |
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You can get the vaccine as an adult, I believe. |
Jennicut |
May-25-10 02:35 PM |
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most states have forms that can be filled out for those that choose not to vax... |
fleabert |
May-25-10 02:51 PM |
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I am not anti vax at all, being a diabetic I rely on the flu vaccine every year. |
Jennicut |
May-25-10 03:07 PM |
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we are on the same page it seems- |
fleabert |
May-26-10 10:16 AM |
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It's not only available for adults, but highly encouraged. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
May-25-10 02:53 PM |
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actually,an adult that hasn't had cp is in a lot worse shape |
w8liftinglady |
May-25-10 05:05 PM |
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um, that was my point. |
fleabert |
May-26-10 10:13 AM |
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No, having chicken pox doesn't necessarily give lifelong immunity. |
trotsky |
May-25-10 05:22 PM |
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my grandfather had shingles, not fun. |
fleabert |
May-26-10 10:22 AM |
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Technically he's right - shingles can be brought about by stress. |
trotsky |
May-26-10 10:55 AM |
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Immunizations - General Overview -- Varicella-Zoster Virus (Chickenpox) |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 02:22 PM |
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This is very good news and very good information. Thanks! |
Maru Kitteh |
May-25-10 02:44 PM |
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Indeed. You're welcome. |
HuckleB |
May-25-10 08:51 PM |
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This is ground breaking? |
Javaman |
May-26-10 11:23 AM |
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Before our daughter was born... |
Tiberius |
May-26-10 11:57 AM |
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Too late to rec, but I'm glad to see such studies |
mzmolly |
May-26-10 01:52 PM |
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Makes sense to me. n/t |
truedelphi |
May-26-10 07:06 PM |
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Thanks T. |
mzmolly |
May-26-10 09:29 PM |
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What makes sense to you? |
HuckleB |
May-29-10 12:23 AM |
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No, it doesn't make sense to me. |
HuckleB |
May-26-10 09:32 PM |
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Your response |
mzmolly |
May-26-10 09:58 PM |
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Thanks for imagining hostility. |
HuckleB |
May-26-10 10:10 PM |
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The source you note is an unnamed entertainer by his own |
mzmolly |
May-27-10 12:46 PM |
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You can disagree. That's your right. |
HuckleB |
May-28-10 03:36 PM |
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The last word is yours, but I must correct something you said. I have posted information from |
mzmolly |
May-28-10 05:18 PM |
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Not per topic, generally. |
HuckleB |
May-28-10 08:22 PM |
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Ok Bub. |
mzmolly |
May-28-10 11:01 PM |
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Enjoy Yourself! |
HuckleB |
May-28-10 11:13 PM |
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Will do. |
mzmolly |
May-28-10 11:27 PM |
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David Kirby is a fraud and a liar. |
Odin2005 |
May-29-10 08:14 PM |
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Why of course he is. |
mzmolly |
May-29-10 09:24 PM |
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We in the Neurodiversity community have been kicking that idiot around for years. |
Odin2005 |
May-29-10 11:37 PM |
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First of all, I believe that many Amish people do vaccinate, though fewer than in the general |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-12-11 04:38 PM |
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Yes, they do vaccinate. |
HuckleB |
Jan-12-11 04:50 PM |
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Well of course they have children with autism! |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 04:54 PM |
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makes sense to me as well. (nt) |
Tumbulu |
May-26-10 11:46 PM |
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Thank |
mzmolly |
May-27-10 11:07 AM |
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Explain what makes sense to you, why and how. |
HuckleB |
May-28-10 11:28 PM |
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This study does not look at all of the parameters of concern to me. |
Crunchy Frog |
May-29-10 11:05 PM |
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Of course, it doesn't. |
HuckleB |
Jun-03-10 06:04 PM |
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Hey, a parent educated at Google U is FAR more of an expert... |
trotsky |
Jun-03-10 06:42 PM |
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thanks for taking a free ride on my kids' immunity |
Teaser |
Jan-11-11 03:26 AM |
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kick |
xchrom |
Jun-01-10 07:08 PM |
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A PSA Poster That Says It All. |
HuckleB |
Jun-03-10 05:51 PM |
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Why were multiple studies like this not done BEFORE |
Tumbulu |
Jan-12-11 01:52 PM |
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Frequently Asked Questions About Multiple Vaccinations and the Immune System |
HuckleB |
Jan-12-11 02:53 PM |
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. |
HuckleB |
Sep-19-11 10:48 AM |
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Read the fine print |
mhatrw |
Jan-13-11 07:37 PM |
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Ah, a letter of response. |
HuckleB |
Jan-13-11 07:54 PM |
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I didn't leave out anything. I linked all responses. |
mhatrw |
Jan-14-11 12:26 AM |
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Sure you did. |
HuckleB |
Jan-14-11 12:44 AM |
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I just published my debunking on the post you just replied to. |
mhatrw |
Jan-14-11 01:12 AM |
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What are you pretending to debunk? |
HuckleB |
Jan-14-11 01:13 AM |
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. |
HuckleB |
Sep-19-11 10:51 AM |
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