Reply #2: This is nuts. Anybody who can get up already gets up.

[kickysnana]

All this will do is torture the people worse and make them weaker.

Last January they got my Mom up to "walk" the day she could stand three days after collapsing with respiratory failure end stage COPD. However they had her on an EMPTY oxygen container (valve was defective) and when she was failing they kept urging her to try again.

Then they insisted, despite my objections, that she was well enough to be transferred to a nursing home that same day. The lung doctor told us that same day she had up to 5 years to live but, surprise, she collapsed and died at the nursing home.

NOBODY informs hospitals of outcomes. Until I wrote a formal letter of complaint they had NO IDEA SHE HAD DIED.

The insurance company writes this shit as policy.