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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #36
47. evidently you have trouble believing anything
that anyone says. . .

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  -Charter schools dont top the charts Catshrink  May-11-10 07:09 AM   #0 
  - How do they do compared to other schools in their zip code?  stray cat   May-11-10 07:13 AM   #1 
  - The ones in my area have lower test scores  proud2BlibKansan   May-11-10 07:30 AM   #2 
  - maybe because the schools they came from  mzteris   May-11-10 02:56 PM   #16 
     - ours aren't and still they underperform. to blame the schools they  roguevalley   May-11-10 10:47 PM   #23 
     - I was being only a little bit flip -  mzteris   May-12-10 09:00 AM   #30 
        - sorry. taught forever. schools should fit kids. classrooms should  roguevalley   May-12-10 02:48 PM   #35 
           - But what happens when the schools and the classrooms DON'T fit the kids?  Greyskye   May-12-10 05:57 PM   #43 
           - first of all, I changed to fit the kid because our school district didn't  roguevalley   May-12-10 10:44 PM   #56 
              - good for you for changing -  mzteris   May-13-10 09:19 AM   #57 
              - .  harry_pothead   May-19-10 04:54 PM   #108 
           - yes, they should.  mzteris   May-12-10 06:45 PM   #45 
              - no, you advocate for charter schools all the time. charter schools are  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:14 AM   #59 
     - sure, that's why the scores are LOWER than they were in the schools they came from.  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:13 AM   #58 
  - You are correct  Bryan Buchan   May-11-10 07:33 AM   #3 
  - I was under the impression that all charter schools were either  Frustratedlady   May-11-10 07:43 AM   #4 
  - NOPE.  mzteris   May-11-10 11:39 AM   #10 
  - yes, it is. the person you asked the question of gets her information from walmart's  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:15 AM   #60 
  - The last answer you just received is a lie.  Greyskye   May-14-10 02:25 PM   #73 
     - The "last answer" was to the question of whether the goal of the charter school movement is to shut  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:55 PM   #75 
        - Can we agree on this?  Greyskye   May-14-10 05:52 PM   #80 
           - no, we can't. the democratic party is quite well organized, & so is the charter school movement.  Hannah Bell   May-18-10 02:58 AM   #106 
  - Charters are NEVER "privately owned"  mzteris   May-11-10 11:37 AM   #9 
     - uh, yes, they are. for-profit charter schools are indeed "privately owned."  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:17 AM   #61 
  - sorry straycat, you're wrong about that.  Mr Generic Other   May-11-10 07:47 AM   #5 
     - Two reasons: One, Obama is for it,  tonysam   May-11-10 09:37 AM   #6 
     - and there are DU"ERS who know me - personally -  mzteris   May-11-10 11:52 AM   #12 
     - Yep.  Catshrink   May-11-10 02:17 PM   #13 
        - and some people hate Obama SO MUCH  mzteris   May-11-10 02:53 PM   #14 
        - The "hate obama" card!!! lol!!!  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:18 AM   #62 
        - btw -  mzteris   May-11-10 02:54 PM   #15 
     - NO NO NO NO NO!!  mzteris   May-11-10 11:51 AM   #11 
        - +1000  Greyskye   May-11-10 09:28 PM   #17 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-10 09:30 PM   #18 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-10 09:38 PM   #19 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-10 10:40 PM   #22 
        - A question about the two schools you mention  Catshrink   May-11-10 10:18 PM   #20 
        - I can answer some of those off the top of my head.  Greyskye   May-11-10 10:36 PM   #21 
        - "Charter schools can cherry pick their students while public schools must take all comers."  NYC_SKP   May-11-10 10:51 PM   #24 
        - hey - I do have one small correction -  mzteris   May-11-10 11:18 PM   #26 
        - Thanks...  NYC_SKP   May-11-10 11:23 PM   #27 
        - um - aren't they a non-profit management organization?  mzteris   May-12-10 09:16 AM   #33 
        - Distinction without a difference  tonysam   May-12-10 02:52 PM   #37 
           - but they ARE accountable to the attendees,  mzteris   May-12-10 06:50 PM   #46 
        - bullshit.  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:43 AM   #65 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-12-10 02:50 PM   #36 
           - Wrong.  Greyskye   May-12-10 03:25 PM   #38 
           - wrong  proud2BlibKansan   May-12-10 04:29 PM   #39 
              - You can't compare charter schools across state lines.  Greyskye   May-12-10 05:52 PM   #41 
              - So you can't judge charters either  proud2BlibKansan   May-12-10 05:55 PM   #42 
              - I certainly don't attempt to judge YOUR charters.  Greyskye   May-12-10 06:01 PM   #44 
              - maybe you need to widen your scope, then.  mzteris   May-12-10 06:56 PM   #49 
                 - nor where you live, despite your walmart fact sheet.  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 03:09 AM   #67 
              - yet california charter schools are more segregated than california public schools.  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 03:08 AM   #66 
              - kids can and do get "kicked out of" traditionals  mzteris   May-12-10 06:55 PM   #48 
           - evidently you have trouble believing anything  mzteris   May-12-10 06:54 PM   #47 
        - Charters do NOT "cherry pick" - that, my dear,  mzteris   May-11-10 11:17 PM   #25 
        - of course they do. and of course, since the privatizers have established test  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:58 PM   #76 
        - Thoughts from a teacher.  Greyskye   May-11-10 11:26 PM   #28 
        - + 1,000,000  mzteris   May-12-10 09:08 AM   #32 
        - A platform of the Demcratic party has been support for strong public schools  proud2BlibKansan   May-12-10 04:50 PM   #40 
           - Charter schools ARE PUBLIC schools!  mzteris   May-12-10 07:18 PM   #50 
              - bullshit.  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:59 PM   #77 
        - My wife informs me that I was wrong about one of my statements.  Greyskye   May-12-10 01:35 PM   #34 
           - see? You're such a LIAR!!!  mzteris   May-12-10 07:19 PM   #51 
              - LOL  Greyskye   May-12-10 07:26 PM   #52 
                 - You aren't going to profit  proud2BlibKansan   May-12-10 08:03 PM   #53 
                    - .  Greyskye   May-12-10 08:11 PM   #54 
                    - as long as the kids do,  mzteris   May-12-10 10:23 PM   #55 
                       - they haven't so far, & they're not going to either.  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 03:11 AM   #68 
        - Correction to one thing.  Greyskye   May-12-10 12:09 AM   #29 
        - my son's charter is located in the exact same building as  mzteris   May-12-10 09:03 AM   #31 
        - The existence of credible charter schools does not mitigate the following:  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:41 AM   #64 
        - BULLSHIT. You've been corrected repeatedly & you just keep flinging it.  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:24 AM   #63 
           - And you keep doing the one thing that kills your credibility.  Greyskye   May-14-10 01:24 PM   #70 
              - the poster stated there are no for-profit charters. your comments are irrelevant to the truth or  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 01:38 PM   #71 
                 - Your repeated comments on the problems of ALL charters in EVERY state...  Greyskye   May-14-10 02:09 PM   #72 
                    - i have acknowledged there are good charters. however, that fact has little weight  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 02:54 PM   #74 
                    - Please point me to where you have made that acknowledgment.  Greyskye   May-14-10 06:16 PM   #84 
                    - i will when you link me to one place where any of the contingent of pro-charter school people  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 11:11 PM   #89 
                       - I see you can't.  Greyskye   May-15-10 12:19 AM   #95 
                          - Let me refresh your memory: 1)*you* jumped in to respond to a comment i made to the other poster.  Hannah Bell   May-15-10 12:42 AM   #96 
                             - I'll take that bet for anything you care to wager.  Greyskye   May-15-10 01:46 PM   #98 
                                - 1) I said nothing like "there aren't legal differences in the charter laws in different states"  Hannah Bell   May-15-10 11:28 PM   #102 
                    - One other point:  Greyskye   May-14-10 06:43 PM   #86 
                       - many of the non-profit management companies have for-profit arms.  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 11:02 PM   #88 
                          - That is not the case in California.  Greyskye   May-14-10 11:43 PM   #93 
                             - you notice my wording: "many". Many. Many, Many.  Hannah Bell   May-15-10 12:05 AM   #94 
                    - you got it, greyskye -  mzteris   May-14-10 06:06 PM   #83 
                    - no point in you repeatedly posting information that's false, you mean?  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 11:36 PM   #92 
                    - link me to those comments, about problems of ALL charters in EVERY state.  Hannah Bell   May-15-10 12:49 AM   #97 
  - Quality and Charter Achievement  mzteris   May-11-10 11:24 AM   #7 
  - sure about that?  mzteris   May-11-10 11:36 AM   #8 
  - Charter Schools  RetAZEd   May-14-10 10:58 AM   #69 
  - Things "might" be different, but will not be different, because quality education isn't the aim.  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 03:01 PM   #78 
  - When you broad-brush all charters like that, you are lying.  Greyskye   May-14-10 05:57 PM   #81 
     - I'm not talking about your boutique charter. I'm talking about charters generally, & that's  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 10:43 PM   #87 
        - 5 schools, 1000 students, 2 counties, 4 school districts...  Greyskye   May-14-10 11:17 PM   #90 
           - whatever. 1000 students. it's not about your 1000 students.  Hannah Bell   May-14-10 11:28 PM   #91 
  - Schools Matter is not reliable  proud2BlibKansan   May-14-10 06:01 PM   #82 
  - additional fact  RetAZEd   May-14-10 03:06 PM   #79 
  - Welcome to DU.  Greyskye   May-14-10 06:35 PM   #85 
  - Final Thoughts.  Greyskye   May-15-10 02:04 PM   #99 
  - That Public Charters website--interesting.  Starry Messenger   May-15-10 04:25 PM   #100 
  - kansas city had the funding -  mzteris   May-15-10 07:08 PM   #101 
  - josh edelman is marion wright edelman's son.  Hannah Bell   May-15-10 11:37 PM   #103 
     - That's disappoinying  proud2BlibKansan   May-16-10 02:12 AM   #105 
  - your attempts to cordon off your state's charters  Hannah Bell   May-15-10 11:39 PM   #104 
  - The charter school craze is eventually going to go the way of the voucher  harry_pothead   May-19-10 04:53 PM   #107 
 

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