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Wed Aug-02-06 11:13 AM
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| 1. Has any human society ever existed without myth? |
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Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 11:16 AM by Jim__
My guess is no, but I stand ready to be corrected on that. But, if no society ever has, then, myth may be necessary for the existence of society. Nietzsche said something to the effect that error may be necessary for life. I think myth may be necessary to bind human society. The reality of life, of what's going to happen, may be dim enough that rational beings wouldn't bother if they actually faced up to the starkness of reality. Myth provides the illusion of the possibility of something better.
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| -Myth has outlived its utility |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 11:07 AM |
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Has any human society ever existed without myth? |
Jim__ |
Aug-02-06 11:13 AM |
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That's a good point |
Orrex |
Aug-02-06 11:18 AM |
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To further my analogy |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 11:29 AM |
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By teaching critical thinking |
Orrex |
Aug-02-06 11:38 AM |
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Wouldn't that eliminate myth |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 11:47 AM |
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I don't think so, at least not automatically |
Orrex |
Aug-02-06 12:07 PM |
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I'm no history expert |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 11:20 AM |
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Do you think that creation of myth is the dividing line between humans |
greyl |
Aug-03-06 12:42 AM |
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It is impossible to tell |
cosmik debris |
Aug-03-06 06:46 AM |
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Look at your definition of myth. |
igil |
Aug-02-06 11:29 AM |
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I declined to define |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 11:41 AM |
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self delete. |
valerief |
Aug-02-06 11:42 AM |
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You need to read 'The Power of Myth' |
China_cat |
Aug-02-06 11:55 AM |
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I have read that |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 12:02 PM |
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If you'd really read Campbell |
China_cat |
Aug-02-06 12:31 PM |
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I beg your pardon |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 12:39 PM |
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No, but it would help if you understood Campbell |
China_cat |
Aug-02-06 01:11 PM |
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Have you read past page 5? ;) nt |
greyl |
Aug-03-06 12:49 AM |
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Most have, yes. |
greyl |
Aug-03-06 12:53 AM |
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I think myth has outlived it's usefulness. |
ozone_man |
Aug-03-06 10:57 AM |
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Please don't get the idea that I am only talking about religion |
cosmik debris |
Aug-03-06 11:46 AM |
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I don't need an Earth mother myth either |
ozone_man |
Aug-03-06 04:24 PM |
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Ah, ok. :) |
greyl |
Aug-04-06 03:49 AM |
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I like that. |
cosmik debris |
Aug-04-06 07:40 AM |
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Maybe You're Right |
Southpawkicker |
Aug-03-06 05:54 PM |
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Once again you missed the point |
cosmik debris |
Aug-03-06 06:46 PM |
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Oh, I Understand You Perfectly Cosmik |
Southpawkicker |
Aug-03-06 09:07 PM |
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Not all myths are religious in nature. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-04-06 08:02 AM |
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I agree (see post 21) |
cosmik debris |
Aug-04-06 08:49 AM |
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Manifest Destiny is perhaps the worst of myths. |
ozone_man |
Aug-04-06 01:50 PM |
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Everyone has their favorite Rockefeller horror story |
cosmik debris |
Aug-04-06 02:49 PM |
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Well, Christianity also supported Manifest Destiny. |
Zhade |
Aug-04-06 09:28 PM |
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That's right. |
ozone_man |
Aug-04-06 11:05 PM |
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I haven't read Campbell, |
neebob |
Aug-06-06 09:27 AM |
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Devil's Advocate position |
cosmik debris |
Aug-06-06 11:01 AM |
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I don't see how more sensible societal goals |
neebob |
Aug-06-06 01:54 PM |
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15 yard penalty for illegal substitution :) |
cosmik debris |
Aug-06-06 03:34 PM |
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Realities, goals, needs, values - |
neebob |
Aug-06-06 04:28 PM |
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sorry, I didn't mean to frustrate you. |
cosmik debris |
Aug-06-06 04:41 PM |
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Thank you for that nice surprise. |
neebob |
Aug-07-06 08:50 AM |
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Rationalism might be a myth |
kwassa |
Aug-06-06 12:05 PM |
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I don’t know how to take that. |
cosmik debris |
Aug-06-06 12:59 PM |
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If They Get Food |
Southpawkicker |
Aug-06-06 07:48 PM |
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Or even a wrong belief, if it does a good thing? |
kwassa |
Aug-07-06 09:01 AM |
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The difference is |
cosmik debris |
Aug-07-06 09:40 AM |
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I don't think that there is any relevant connection |
kwassa |
Aug-07-06 09:55 AM |
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The myth of nationalism |
cosmik debris |
Aug-07-06 10:32 AM |
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Huh? |
Southpawkicker |
Aug-07-06 05:20 PM |
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Nationalism isn't a myth |
kwassa |
Aug-08-06 10:37 AM |
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It was not my idea |
cosmik debris |
Aug-08-06 11:05 AM |
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I am disagreeing with you. |
kwassa |
Aug-08-06 07:50 PM |
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Yes, Nationalism is a myth. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-08-06 07:59 PM |
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A Very Good Point |
Southpawkicker |
Aug-07-06 05:17 PM |
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Rationalism |
Orrex |
Aug-07-06 11:52 AM |
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good point, rationalism is being viciously attacked by postmodernist... |
Odin2005 |
Aug-08-06 07:48 PM |
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