You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #27: Should a business think of every possible scam against its customers... [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology Donate to DU
Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #18
27. Should a business think of every possible scam against its customers...
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 03:40 PM by Boojatta
and disclose that it's not engaging in any of them? Do you expect a business to do that before you choose to be a customer?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -Why is this idea so controversial? rusty_rebar  Jul-14-10 01:38 PM   #0 
  - Because society requires alot of involuntary interactions.  zipplewrath   Jul-14-10 01:39 PM   #1 
  - But that seems wrong to me.  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 01:44 PM   #2 
     - It's not a matter of being forced.  MineralMan   Jul-14-10 01:48 PM   #4 
     - Shh, don't make the libertarian think too hard.  trotsky   Jul-14-10 05:02 PM   #42 
     - Again, define voluntary  zipplewrath   Jul-14-10 01:58 PM   #10 
     - Voluntary defined:  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 03:17 PM   #20 
        - We "compel" people to sell to African-Americans  zipplewrath   Jul-14-10 03:22 PM   #22 
           - I don't want to get into a debate about  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 03:32 PM   #25 
              - Well, that's the "controversial" part  zipplewrath   Jul-14-10 03:45 PM   #28 
     - Go to a small town and you will be forced to shop at MallWart  texastoast   Jul-14-10 02:18 PM   #11 
     - So I will be sent to jail or killed  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 03:25 PM   #23 
        - Not killed.  texastoast   Jul-14-10 06:15 PM   #46 
     - The clerk in the store is forced  SheilaT   Jul-14-10 02:38 PM   #15 
        - But these are all voluntary actions  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 03:02 PM   #16 
           - Once you go to work at the store,  SheilaT   Jul-15-10 10:35 AM   #70 
  - Sounds like a libertarian concept.  MineralMan   Jul-14-10 01:46 PM   #3 
  - well you're describing the underpinnings of the social contract  sui generis   Jul-14-10 01:48 PM   #5 
  - I am well aware of your last point  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 04:40 PM   #36 
  - Unworkable really  dmallind   Jul-14-10 01:49 PM   #6 
  - you miss the point  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 04:41 PM   #37 
     - No. I don't. Is all interaction voluntary or not?  dmallind   Jul-14-10 04:43 PM   #38 
        - If you voluntarily take a job  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 04:48 PM   #40 
           - If you interact with others how is that not voluntary in any circumstance?  dmallind   Jul-14-10 04:55 PM   #41 
           - This is a ridiculous argument.  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 10:20 PM   #51 
              - "So why is it that you guys get to proselytize for what you want, but I don't?"  trotsky   Jul-15-10 09:11 AM   #67 
           - Your OP said that ALL actions should be voluntary  skepticscott   Jul-14-10 05:13 PM   #44 
              - wow, you guys just don't get it. I doubt you ever will.  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 10:07 PM   #48 
                 - Oh, please.  darkstar3   Jul-14-10 10:16 PM   #50 
                 - a little nuance?  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 10:37 PM   #52 
                    - Ridicule of ridiculous ideas should be expected, especially in R/T.  darkstar3   Jul-14-10 10:48 PM   #53 
                    - I thought libertarians were the tough, independent type?  trotsky   Jul-15-10 06:46 AM   #64 
                 - Well, when you don't provide substantive  skepticscott   Jul-15-10 05:22 AM   #62 
  - Because some people will voluntarily act so as to make others hurt involuntarily.  damntexdem   Jul-14-10 01:51 PM   #7 
  - That's an anarchocapitalist ideal  NoNothing   Jul-14-10 01:53 PM   #8 
  - It's not controversial. It's nonsense.  Birthmark   Jul-14-10 01:56 PM   #9 
  - So your actually saying  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 04:47 PM   #39 
     - That is correct.  Birthmark   Jul-14-10 06:37 PM   #47 
  - Another question about privacy  Boojatta   Jul-14-10 02:22 PM   #12 
  - I would think  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 03:15 PM   #18 
     - Should a business think of every possible scam against its customers...  Boojatta   Jul-14-10 03:40 PM   #27 
     - I don't expect them to do any of that.  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 03:52 PM   #30 
        - "If they have unethical business practices, they will not be in business for long."  Boojatta   Jul-14-10 04:09 PM   #33 
        - I have heard of this  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 04:25 PM   #34 
           - Without the FDIC, what would prevent people from starting a run on a bank...  Boojatta   Jul-14-10 10:51 PM   #54 
              - no one, that is the point.  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 11:04 PM   #55 
                 - What if there's nothing wrong with the bank's financial position  Boojatta   Jul-14-10 11:09 PM   #56 
        - HA!  ChadwickHenryWard   Jul-15-10 02:09 PM   #74 
     - Uhm...obvious question, how would you know they are engaging in unethical practices...  Cleobulus   Jul-15-10 11:46 AM   #73 
  - Thank you Kung Fu Monkey.  trotsky   Jul-14-10 02:25 PM   #13 
  - Thanks for the laugh this morning.  Goblinmonger   Jul-15-10 07:09 AM   #65 
  - A pilot owns a two-seat airplane and flies alone.  Boojatta   Jul-14-10 02:29 PM   #14 
  - Your last OP wasn't about whether this was a good idea...  Silent3   Jul-14-10 03:15 PM   #17 
  - My last post  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 03:16 PM   #19 
  - What is it about libertarian principles  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 03:20 PM   #21 
  - Most kids in kindergarten learn to get along with others in society. Libertarians  FSogol   Jul-14-10 03:28 PM   #24 
  - I don't know what kindergarten you went to,  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 03:57 PM   #31 
     - Is that where libertarians went wrong? Someone played with their toys?  FSogol   Jul-14-10 04:03 PM   #32 
     - Excuse me?  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 04:28 PM   #35 
     - You went to a pretty unusual kindergarten!  Mariana   Jul-15-10 04:41 AM   #61 
        - Ha ha!  trotsky   Jul-15-10 06:38 AM   #63 
  - Because they're usually a stalking horse for obscenely anti-social behavior.  jgraz   Jul-14-10 05:15 PM   #45 
     - I am not talking about a single behavior.  rusty_rebar   Jul-14-10 10:14 PM   #49 
        - If you can't give a specific, concrete example, then your principle is meaningless.  jgraz   Jul-15-10 12:04 AM   #58 
        - "Everyone assumes that I have some freakish desire to do something weird."  ZombieHorde   Jul-15-10 12:33 AM   #59 
  - Have you really thought this through?  wcast   Jul-14-10 03:33 PM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-14-10 03:47 PM   #29 
  - Then I guess the doctor will NOT see you now. n/t  darkstar3   Jul-14-10 05:04 PM   #43 
  - All interactions between people should be, but not interactions between people and the state  jdp349   Jul-14-10 11:47 PM   #57 
  - Voluntary defined: without coercion.  rrneck   Jul-15-10 01:26 AM   #60 
  - Because Rand really isn't that deep  Goblinmonger   Jul-15-10 07:11 AM   #66 
  - I think more people would consider the idea naive than would consider it controversial.  Jim__   Jul-15-10 09:33 AM   #68 
  - I would add that part of our citizenship contract  sui generis   Jul-15-10 10:40 AM   #72 
  - wow - I just returned to this. What a bunch of assholes on this thread  sui generis   Jul-15-10 10:17 AM   #69 
  - "All interactions between people should be voluntary."  Boojatta   Jul-15-10 10:39 AM   #71 
  - So, If You Voluntarily Decide To Knife Me In The Back While I'm Sleeping  Beetwasher   Jul-15-10 02:53 PM   #75 
  - Locking.  greatauntoftriplets   Jul-15-10 05:18 PM   #76 

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC