Reply #12: Thank you for putting words into my mouth and then telling me to shut up.

[Yellow Horse]

Why don't you, instead, STFU and let alone the real election integrity activists people who are trying to do something practical to protect the vote.

You have NO IDEA who I am or what I may or may not have done for election integrity.

Your post makes my point -- this forum has become an echo chamber for a select few to wail at each other about lever machines and hand-counted paper ballots. Anyone who says anything else is not a real election integrity activist. Small wonder so many of us lurk or have gone away.

I never said I was personally for or against replacing levers. I said the facts -- despite activists working hard to save their lever machines in other states, every state except NY has ended up being forced to replace them. There are powerful forces that have decided lever machines will be gone from our country. This regardless of what HAVA actually says or doesn't say.

Go ahead and sue. People have sued before. They lost.

Activists in all those states that lost their levers have had to get over it and move on to making the best of whatever voting system they ended up with or start working to change for the better. The lucky ones got some form of paper-based system because at least those states can work on improving their audit and recount laws. The unlucky ones ended up with DREs, especially paperless ones.

NY is lucky. After the lever lawsuit loses, you will still have paper ballots to recount and audit. It's up to you (assuming you are from NY and not just a carpetbagger posting about NY on here) to work to get good recount and audit law into place.

That is if realistic activists like Bo Lipari haven't beaten you to it first.