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Who here has ever attended an elite prep school? Anyone been to jail? Well, I'm sure everyone has been to the zoo.


The kind of behavior associated with Gannon's flavor of "services," and Bush's affair with Vicktor Ashe, have nothing to do with what most people consider sex. I know this is difficult to understand because we *are* talking about the act of eventually bumping uglies. Make no mistake, that happens in the end (pun intended), but it's not "romantic." All the well-groomed bachelors of a certain age in surrounding the GOP and the While House, they aren't all looking for love. They are "establishing order."

Homo-erotic social ordering is at the center the Lord of the Flies world inhabited by the orphans of privilege who attend elite private schools. It's also common in public schools, and in neighborhoods. You most certainly see it in prison. Who is whose bitch. It's certainly not a behavior exclusive to the wealthy. I grew up in central Florida and the cracker kids in my neighborhood did it. I've witnessed it in the corporate world where you have the bullying in a hereto-erotic manner. Hell, my 14-pound female Italian Greyhound asserts her authority over her roomie, an 18-pound male Iggy. I love it when we have guests over in the summer for BBQ's and Astra is humping away at Trouble. "Well you see, they are establishing dominant order. It has nothing to do with sex-drive. If she were in heat, believe me, she would be acting much different."

Skull and Bones is supposed to be the final stopping place for the adolescent ready to leave that ordering process behind. Or is it? Does the behavior serve a purpose beyond the developmental ordering of youth? I would say it most certainly does. Who wouldn't want to be privy to your opponent's vulnerability? If you were the bully, I imagine you could use your reputation for mad ruthlessness against your peers forever -- given you maintain the rep through continued ruthlessness.

This is base nature, folks. It's what we form social institutions to guard against. The Enlightenment, humanity in general, the arts, music. Our entire culture until now has been centered on progress and The Social Contract. Now, it is Hobbe's State of Nature re-created by men in power in order to fill a need -- most likely a garden variety narcissist need with Daddy-issues thrown in. Always needing to show oneself to be "the boss," or "the big Man," is not normal behavior. It's aberrant. Transgressive.

Everyone who has an angle on the Gannon story wants to assert their reason "why the sex is relevant," or why it's not. I'm no exception. I believe the issue of sex is important because it tells us something about this administration's sense of social ordering. It's claw to jaw. It's pre-modern. It's Old Testament.

When Clinton was fooling around with his little muffin, it wasn't about him being a big man. He's not proving to the world and to his Father that he is better. Clinton had to become his own father. He had to grow up fast and nurture his mother. I have some experience with that. When you come from those roots, you don't have anything to prove, anymore. But you do get lonely. When you are everyone's parent, there is nothing left for you.

In the Clinton dalliance there was yearning for connection. In Bush's case the yearning is to stand over the vanquished -- this is called "annihilation."

We must get better at articulating what this is about because it seems to me that whether or not you believe any of the Left Behind crap, Bush The Annihilator, does. Those are the rules he is playing by. He is a sick man and he is going to take all of us with him on his Odyssey to prove to Poppy once and for all, who's The Man.
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  -Question of GAY SEX surrounding White House reveal who we have become nashville_brook  Feb-19-05 02:46 PM   #0 
  - excellent writing - I don't know about the analysis - but the writing kept  papau   Feb-19-05 03:00 PM   #1 
  - it's your basic deconstruction of power  nashville_brook   Feb-19-05 03:16 PM   #3 
  - Excellent post! nt  caledesi   Feb-19-05 03:15 PM   #2 
  - ah shucks  nashville_brook   Feb-19-05 04:49 PM   #9 
  - Very interesting AND rational  havocmom   Feb-19-05 03:20 PM   #4 
  - see if there's anything on monkeys -- there might be a reason why they  nashville_brook   Feb-19-05 03:24 PM   #5 
     - LOL actually I WAS thinking about the Crocodile Diaries we watched  havocmom   Feb-19-05 03:36 PM   #6 
        - *allowed access" -- "contented"  nashville_brook   Feb-19-05 04:32 PM   #8 
        - That's what I think - those that don't believe in evolution don't evolve  glitch   Feb-20-05 01:40 PM   #36 
           - Kind of hard to believe in something  Jamastiene   Feb-21-05 05:22 AM   #50 
  - Bush's issues are personal  Old Mouse   Feb-19-05 03:37 PM   #7 
  - I agree - it's to get intelligence and to coerce support  Nothing Without Hope   Feb-20-05 02:47 PM   #43 
  - That's why I feel *'s rubbing of bald heads  HeeBGBz   Feb-19-05 05:28 PM   #10 
  - for sure! and don't forget the lieberman kiss.  nashville_brook   Feb-19-05 07:05 PM   #11 
     - Lieberman got the bitch kiss.  Us vs Them   Feb-20-05 12:39 AM   #13 
     - And the nicknames  starroute   Feb-20-05 10:18 AM   #21 
  - great post! n/t  deacon   Feb-20-05 12:19 AM   #12 
  - Dominance and Perversion....your article is interesting.  KoKo01   Feb-20-05 01:01 AM   #14 
  - when i was in college, taking poly sci theory courses, i had a prof  nashville_brook   Feb-20-05 12:33 PM   #26 
  - KoKo01?  KayLaw   Feb-20-05 12:46 PM   #28 
  - Here are a couple:  Ojai Person   Feb-20-05 12:55 PM   #31 
     - Thanks, Ojai Person  KayLaw   Feb-20-05 01:19 PM   #35 
  - Kick....for an interesting read...n/t  KoKo01   Feb-20-05 04:29 PM   #45 
  - You write a mean post, nashville_brook.  Ojai Person   Feb-20-05 01:04 AM   #15 
  - you've got the narcissist thing down!  nashville_brook   Feb-20-05 12:11 PM   #25 
     - Narcissism is a national, if not worldwide, epidemic....  Ojai Person   Feb-20-05 12:49 PM   #29 
  - I nominated, and  Ojai Person   Feb-20-05 01:09 AM   #16 
  - he even took a drink -- i play poker -- that's called a give.  nashville_brook   Feb-20-05 12:34 PM   #27 
  - The BIG picture.  Karenina   Feb-20-05 08:21 AM   #17 
  - your analysis makes sense...good stuff!  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-20-05 08:47 AM   #18 
  - Enlightening!!  BeFree   Feb-20-05 09:22 AM   #19 
  - i started researching Narcissisist Personality Disorder b/c of my last  nashville_brook   Feb-20-05 12:53 PM   #30 
     - child development stuff  KathmanduKid   Feb-21-05 08:04 AM   #51 
  - thanks for the enlightening insights  librechik   Feb-20-05 10:00 AM   #20 
  - I voted for this  Tesla   Feb-20-05 11:36 AM   #22 
     - i love you screen name!  nashville_brook   Feb-20-05 12:57 PM   # 
  - excellent writing  qanda   Feb-20-05 11:51 AM   #23 
  - IMO this animal kingdom regime still needs to be chased out of the jungle  i miss america   Feb-20-05 11:53 AM   #24 
  - and WHO in the animal kingdom better to fight evil monkeys, than  nashville_brook   Feb-20-05 01:06 PM   #33 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Feb-20-05 12:57 PM   #32 
  - That's what I keep trying to say about prostitution.  barbaraann   Feb-20-05 01:16 PM   #34 
  - not his MO -- i can understand the your thing about  nashville_brook   Feb-20-05 02:12 PM   #39 
     - Social ordering sex or narcissistic sex? Or something else?  barbaraann   Feb-20-05 02:15 PM   #40 
        - damn good question. the Velvet Texas Mafia thread goes a long way  nashville_brook   Feb-20-05 05:09 PM   #46 
           - You know, I think it's the kind of sex Alexander the Greek had.  barbaraann   Feb-20-05 06:45 PM   #47 
              - oh yes, the greek-roman man-boy relationship thing  nashville_brook   Feb-20-05 08:33 PM   #48 
                 - Consensual rape?  barbaraann   Feb-20-05 08:57 PM   #49 
  - Nominated.  bvar22   Feb-20-05 01:45 PM   #37 
  - saw this on salon -- i love it. could be toby keith's next CD art  nashville_brook   Feb-20-05 02:25 PM   #41 
  - Well you gave me a personal insight. Thanks for the post!!!  BigBearJohn   Feb-20-05 01:55 PM   #38 
  - I think the gay prostitution and probably pedophilia are for BLACKMAIL  Nothing Without Hope   Feb-20-05 02:35 PM   #42 
  - Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for your insights.  Pooka Fey   Feb-20-05 04:18 PM   #44 

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