Reply #54: But, isn't that part of what politics is supposed to be about?

[phantom power]

Getting people to rally behind a great idea, even if they don't initially agree?

:shrug:


I'll tell you what I think. Maybe I'm still hopelessly naive even after all these years but here goes: first of all, polling suggests that the general public is not opposed to universal health care.. So, they are open being convinced that something like HR676 is a good idea. I also believe that even Congresscritters can understand the basic simplicity, economy and humanity of a single payer health care system. In fact, I think most of them understand this already, but between being bought off by lobbyists and being in thrall to 20 years of non-stop right wing group think, they have convinced themselves "the votes aren't there." Even though they are the votes.

It's circular reasoning. It's tautological. "We can't vote for that! The votes aren't there!"

Huh????