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Fri May-15-09 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #43 |
| 44. Two Good Starting Points, My Friend |
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Mr. Orwell's 'Homage to Catalonia" and 'Blood of Spain' by Mr. Ronald Fraser. The first is Orwell's account of serving with the P.O.U.M. militia, with some general comments; the second is an oral history, with interviews ranging from an F.A.I. militia leader to a Carlist militiaman, with useful supporting materials. Both are readily available still, and convey the feel of thing superbly. After that, you will have a better eye for narrative histories. There are no neutral accounts even today, so a good eye and well-calibrated 'bullshit-detector' are essential equipment for study....
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| -Are we seriously going to let the media help the republicans skate while taking down one of our own |
Peacetrain |
May-15-09 12:19 PM |
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Sadly they played into the GOP's hands |
Fresh_Start |
May-15-09 12:20 PM |
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Fuck Resetting The Table.... Yank The Tablecloth And Let The Dishes Fly |
Binka |
May-15-09 09:33 PM |
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It's an ugly repeat. Uglier that people here are falling for it nt |
Captain Hilts |
May-15-09 12:21 PM |
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If they play us like this again, and we are so damn dumb |
Peacetrain |
May-15-09 12:24 PM |
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THE MEDIA IS ALWAYS REACTIONARY |
HowHasItComeToThis |
May-15-09 02:00 PM |
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It sadly seems that way |
Uzybone |
May-15-09 12:27 PM |
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Yep would be nice if some people around here calling |
SIMPLYB1980 |
May-15-09 12:59 PM |
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no one can "get" pelosi |
Crooked Moon |
May-15-09 12:32 PM |
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I started feeling this way last night watching the cable news late night. |
rvablue |
May-15-09 12:35 PM |
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My thoughts exactly..they are pushing us hard from the right, to see if |
Peacetrain |
May-15-09 12:39 PM |
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I get the impression that Pelosi is holding firm. |
LooseWilly |
May-15-09 11:05 PM |
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I was just thinking the same thing. Pelosi has opened up a door, |
FrenchieCat |
May-15-09 12:42 PM |
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Me too.. I am not going to sit and watch another Democratic President, Congress |
Peacetrain |
May-15-09 12:45 PM |
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let's hit back hard, enough is enough. |
bdamomma |
May-15-09 01:45 PM |
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No-like I said on the other thread-they should be talking about Ali Soufan-not Nancy Pelosi! |
jenmito |
May-15-09 12:49 PM |
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You made a most excellent point Jen.. Cross referencing your thread |
Peacetrain |
May-15-09 12:52 PM |
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Thanks, Peacetrain! |
jenmito |
May-15-09 01:01 PM |
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I was trying to find out why the Breathless Media didn't bother |
FrenchieCat |
May-15-09 02:06 PM |
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It got coverage for about 2 minutes that day... |
jenmito |
May-15-09 02:53 PM |
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No we are not..the corporatemediawhores |
Cha |
May-15-09 12:50 PM |
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This happens all the time. The left either eats their own or Allow MSM and the Repukes |
Thrill |
May-15-09 12:51 PM |
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I don't see what the big deal is... If Pelosi goes down the Republicans go |
walldude |
May-15-09 12:56 PM |
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Nope |
Adelante |
May-15-09 01:22 PM |
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Apparently, Ma'am, A Good Portion Of The Left Is Happy To Co-Operate With Rove In This |
The Magistrate |
May-15-09 01:26 PM |
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Which sickens me. Why oh why are some on the left playing into their hands? |
Jennicut |
May-15-09 01:37 PM |
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It Must Be Kept In Mind, Ma'am, That Some On The Left View Democrats As The Enemy |
The Magistrate |
May-15-09 01:53 PM |
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Fascinating. |
Number23 |
May-15-09 05:48 PM |
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I'm an Indepedent for the same reason. n/t |
vaberella |
May-15-09 10:18 PM |
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Well said. And very much in line with my thinking as a center-left [Dem-leaning] Independent |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
May-18-09 06:40 AM |
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I agree. Thanks Magistrate. |
Jennicut |
May-15-09 09:17 PM |
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The whole thing has been reminding me of something you told me about the Spanish Civil war. |
Forkboy |
May-15-09 09:26 PM |
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Thank You, My Friend: It Is A Common Theme Of Mine, And A Very Depressing Feature Of That Conflict |
The Magistrate |
May-15-09 09:46 PM |
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Thank you for reminding me of the details. |
Forkboy |
May-15-09 09:58 PM |
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Two Good Starting Points, My Friend |
The Magistrate |
May-15-09 10:07 PM |
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Excellent. Thank you for the recommendations. |
Forkboy |
May-15-09 10:15 PM |
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Exchanges like this are why I love DU. Thank you, Sir. n/t |
ms liberty |
May-15-09 11:02 PM |
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It's one of the oldest tricks in the book. |
redqueen |
May-16-09 10:26 AM |
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If Pelosi hadn't taken impeachment off the table then I would be more sympathetic toward her now. |
totodeinhere |
May-17-09 05:07 PM |
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I believe there is a small group that is pursuing that |
Still Sensible |
May-17-09 01:22 PM |
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Interesting. |
BlooInBloo |
May-17-09 01:54 PM |
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... |
Bushknew |
May-17-09 06:51 PM |
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I’m a Dennis Kucinich Democrat. The consequences of history have shown his judgment to have been .. |
Bushknew |
May-17-09 06:56 PM |
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.. |
Bushknew |
May-17-09 06:57 PM |
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Please identify these people on the left.... |
PassingFair |
May-17-09 02:06 PM |
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they have been wanting to go after Pelosi for a long time. |
bdamomma |
May-15-09 01:40 PM |
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Yep. |
redqueen |
May-15-09 01:42 PM |
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the media is as guilty as the repigs are. |
bdamomma |
May-15-09 01:58 PM |
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They are hand and hand.. as someone pointed out once to me.. the repubs are entrenched |
Peacetrain |
May-16-09 10:24 AM |
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I'm pushing back! talk to the media - Letters@msnbc.com |
wowimthere |
May-15-09 02:01 PM |
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I won't |
incapsulated |
May-15-09 02:02 PM |
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Absolutely agree! We cannot let them control the message any longer. |
Window |
May-15-09 03:24 PM |
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I am not crazy about nancy but... |
butterfly77 |
May-15-09 02:02 PM |
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yes, this is complete bullshit |
ibegurpard |
May-15-09 05:03 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
May-15-09 05:03 PM |
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This is how the progressive Dems operate. They eat their own. |
Phx_Dem |
May-15-09 05:11 PM |
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Whoa Broad Brush You Are Painting With |
Binka |
May-15-09 09:53 PM |
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Gibbs dodges Pelosi question........... |
snowdays |
May-15-09 05:34 PM |
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They don't trust the President. At this point, I don't care any more. |
vaberella |
May-15-09 05:38 PM |
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I'm keeping my powder dry. nt |
tsuki |
May-15-09 11:07 PM |
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Nancy is taking herself down |
slackmaster |
May-16-09 10:26 AM |
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I will blame the media till hell freezes over.. they sat on thier backsides |
Peacetrain |
May-16-09 10:31 AM |
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The only thing the media care about is selling advertising |
slackmaster |
May-16-09 12:39 PM |
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It's very upsetting. The media is dwelling on what Pelosi knew |
Vinca |
May-16-09 10:57 AM |
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I believe Pelosi, and I think she should shrieke about vindication. |
Gman2 |
May-16-09 11:08 AM |
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What I don't get about the Democratic Party is where is our |
jillan |
May-16-09 12:56 PM |
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Fuck Pelosi. She wasn't there when we needed her, so we shouldn't be there for her either. |
anonymous171 |
May-16-09 12:56 PM |
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She voted against the IWR when many others didn't have the courage to do so. |
PassingFair |
May-17-09 02:09 PM |
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Yes. That's how DUers roll. |
BlooInBloo |
May-17-09 02:09 PM |
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Not me. No way, no how. |
TheKentuckian |
May-17-09 04:19 PM |
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I know exactly how you feel. |
EFerrari |
May-17-09 06:53 PM |
#67 |
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