Reply #46: Fact #6 depends on your definition of "progressive"

[Lilith Velkor]

I think the misunderstanding here is based on the all-too-visible divide between center-left and plain ol' left on this board. If you see someone say "REAL progressive," that probably means she is plain ol' left, and has plenty good reason to have a chip on her shoulder, what with the center and the right trying to convince her she is invisible and all.

(And I'm really not talking about myself here, I'm a socialist so I know damn good and well I'm on the fringe.)

Most of the folks I've seen on this board, who are of the plain ol' left who wish to have exclusive rights to the moniker "progressive," would not count Obama as one because he is center-left, and has been all along. To some, this comes as a nasty shock, because they didn't pay attention and/or failed to understand that "Change You Can Believe In" is just a fucking slogan.