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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:47 AM
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134. I don't much care what the MSM says- remember when they were all over Wright?
Or was that somehow different in your mind. It's more manufactured outrage, it sells ads, and once again people fall for the bullshit. Hook line and sinker.
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  -All she meant was that Bobby Kennedy's campaign was still active in June bigtree  May-24-08 08:18 AM   #0 
  - Bobby Kennedy's campaign was only 2 months old in June  boobooday   May-24-08 08:19 AM   #1 
  - And why throw in  Jawja   May-24-08 08:21 AM   #7 
     - Just a glimpse inside Bill & Hill's private conversations. Sick.  polpilot   May-24-08 08:52 AM   #47 
        - How is it private if you know about it?  JoFerret   May-24-08 08:17 PM   #164 
  - I agree, but that won't stop the feeding frenzy....  flowomo   May-24-08 08:19 AM   #2 
  - Then she should have SAID that!  Bettie   May-24-08 08:20 AM   #3 
  - Agreed. K&R  DemVet   May-24-08 08:20 AM   #4 
  - She could have said that. Instead, she said he was assassinated in June. Why the fuck would you brin  GarbagemanLB   May-24-08 08:20 AM   #5 
  - Thats a good point. nt  Quixote1818   May-24-08 11:50 AM   #135 
  - AND that he was assassinated  CreekDog   May-24-08 08:21 AM   #6 
  - Why bring it up when making the argument why  Jawja   May-24-08 08:22 AM   #8 
     - because of the calls for her to quit now. She was making the case that, historically.  bigtree   May-24-08 08:24 AM   #13 
        - but if that actually happened, Clinton's remaining in the race would make no difference  CreekDog   May-24-08 08:29 AM   #15 
        - See how easy it was for you to make that case without assassination  JenniferZ   May-24-08 08:39 AM   #24 
        - so no one should 'mention' the assassination in any context, even a benign one?  bigtree   May-24-08 08:49 AM   #41 
           - Not in the context of 'why stay in the race'. DUH.  Warren Stupidity   May-24-08 08:51 AM   # 
           - And you can go around spreading that lie if you want  bigtree   May-24-08 08:53 AM   #49 
              - You have reached the delusional stage where we are all liars.  Warren Stupidity   May-24-08 08:58 AM   #54 
                 - You cite the newspaper but ignore the conclusion of the ones who interviewed her  bigtree   May-24-08 09:06 AM   #65 
           - Assassination is totally irrelevant to her point. So why keep  JenniferZ   May-24-08 08:59 AM   #56 
           - Jennifer you bring up a good point about how easily it could of  midnight   May-24-08 09:51 AM   #96 
              - I'm tired of this too. I would dearly love to move on to more  JenniferZ   May-24-08 09:58 AM   #99 
              - You forget that this also affected the Obama family and Ted Kennedy's family.  gal   May-24-08 10:28 AM   #113 
           - The editorial boards have torn her apart over this, and Axelrod knows better than to go after this  MN Against Bush   May-24-08 09:31 AM   #78 
           - Here's what she meant:  earthside   May-24-08 09:32 AM   #79 
              - those interviewing her don't agree with that interpretation of her words  bigtree   May-24-08 09:43 AM   #91 
                 - Worse than the crass insensitivity of her choice of example  HousePainter   May-24-08 08:56 PM   #167 
        - the first primary or caucus that year was March 12. It's a lousy  cali   May-24-08 08:58 AM   #53 
        - but the GENERAL ELECTION DATE was the same  bigtree   May-24-08 09:44 AM   #93 
        - yes, not a fair comparison since most large states such as California  unapatriciated   May-24-08 10:29 AM   #114 
        - The problem with her statement  Irishonly   May-24-08 10:10 AM   #108 
        - from her statement:  bigtree   May-24-08 10:16 AM   #110 
           - Question  Irishonly   May-24-08 10:29 AM   #115 
              - I really don't know how to talk about Bobby Kennedy  bigtree   May-24-08 10:34 AM   #119 
                 - I Didn't Say She Had A Motive  Irishonly   May-24-08 10:44 AM   #124 
        - Re: History  SOS   May-24-08 07:04 PM   #160 
  - In the best case, it shows how utterly incompetent she is  Onlooker   May-24-08 08:22 AM   #9 
  - She didn't even have to mention assassination. She still could  JenniferZ   May-24-08 08:23 AM   #10 
  - There were many other, more recent examples she could have used  Mystery2Me   May-24-08 08:23 AM   #11 
  - I agree with what she meant...  Higher Standard   May-24-08 08:23 AM   #12 
  - you ought to get to know your candidate better.  burythehatchet   May-24-08 08:27 AM   #14 
  - Her own words betray her intentions, and no amount of spin will help  Cirque du So-What   May-24-08 08:30 AM   #16 
  - the Argus editorial board AGREES WITH ME, not you're sick interpretation  bigtree   May-24-08 08:35 AM   #18 
  - I tend to disregard those who call me 'sick'  Cirque du So-What   May-24-08 08:43 AM   #36 
  - Oh, but you want room to accuse Sen. Clinton of having some 'bloodthirsty fantasy'  bigtree   May-24-08 08:50 AM   # 
     - I calls 'em like I sees 'em  Cirque du So-What   May-24-08 08:59 AM   #55 
  - We can all watch the video you know.  JackRiddler   May-24-08 09:33 AM   #80 
     - here's the statement  bigtree   May-24-08 09:45 AM   #94 
  - It's YOUR fantasy on display. Not hers.  JoFerret   May-24-08 08:19 PM   #165 
  - Who's drinking the fucking kool-aid now?  chascarrillo   May-24-08 08:33 AM   #17 
  - I guess the editorial board who conducted the interview  bigtree   May-24-08 08:36 AM   #20 
     - Oh! Well since the editorial board agrees...  BklnDem75   May-24-08 09:30 AM   #77 
        - what about RFK Jr.?  bigtree   May-24-08 09:46 AM   #95 
           - You mean Hillary's lone Kennedy endorsement?  BklnDem75   May-24-08 10:07 AM   #107 
           - but folks outside of the family can play victim, ignoring his own response?  bigtree   May-24-08 10:18 AM   #111 
              - Nobody's playing victim  BklnDem75   May-24-08 10:34 AM   #120 
           - RFK Jr wants her Senate seat  Carolina   May-24-08 11:57 AM   #137 
  - BULLSHIT  JVS   May-24-08 08:36 AM   #19 
  - bullshit yourself  bigtree   May-24-08 08:37 AM   #21 
  - Why do you keep opening a big old can of "Whupass" on yourself?  symbolman   May-24-08 08:51 AM   #45 
     - You apparently have no idea how secure with myself I really am.  bigtree   May-24-08 09:03 AM   #59 
        - Okay lonely Secure guy..  symbolman   May-24-08 10:05 AM   #106 
        - I know myself. That's what's important, not how I'm viewed by the rabble here.  bigtree   May-24-08 10:14 AM   #109 
        - I think Ted Kennedy and the Obama family have a right to be offended.  gal   May-24-08 10:30 AM   #117 
  - give him a break  antifaschits   May-24-08 08:39 AM   #25 
     - I just got home from work, read the press accounts, heard Axelrod yesterday  bigtree   May-24-08 08:42 AM   #35 
     - I presume, that includes her bullshit, too?  antifaschits   May-24-08 08:46 AM   #40 
     - Then why do you keep coming back?  think4yourself   May-24-08 09:40 AM   #87 
     - I doubt he is being paid for his delusional posts.  Warren Stupidity   May-24-08 09:13 AM   #69 
        - funny though that RFK Jr. has offered the exact same defense of her statement  bigtree   May-24-08 09:41 AM   #90 
  - That's bullshit, the idea that this is "opportunistic smear" territory- this is wtf is wrong with  jsmirman   May-24-08 08:37 AM   #22 
  - bull shit!  DaLittle Kitty   May-24-08 08:38 AM   #23 
  - right back at ya  bigtree   May-24-08 08:41 AM   #27 
  - If you are a rational thinking individual who has listened to her words  mrone2   May-24-08 08:40 AM   #26 
  - One thought...  Mhegwood3   May-24-08 08:41 AM   #28 
  - No doubt a good portion is anger from those already angry but she could have referenced RFK w/o  SemiCharmedQuark   May-24-08 08:41 AM   #29 
  - They know that- they are just making it into something it isn't  Marrah_G   May-24-08 08:41 AM   #30 
  - Interesting point that...."fake outrage"  windbreeze   May-24-08 10:34 AM   #122 
  - Yes, I really believe the outrage is fake. People here hate her so much they will twist anything  Marrah_G   May-24-08 11:02 AM   #127 
     - it is not 'fake' outrage. It's real anger, hurt, and sadness that many of us here feel. To dismiss  slinkerwink   May-24-08 11:07 AM   #129 
     - Have you seen the reaction from the rest of the country on the MSM forums?  gal   May-24-08 11:29 AM   #133 
     - I don't much care what the MSM says- remember when they were all over Wright?  Marrah_G   May-24-08 11:47 AM   #134 
     - I don't know how old you are...  windbreeze   May-24-08 05:41 PM   #148 
  - It's not fake, Marrah. It really isn't  JerseygirlCT   May-24-08 05:51 PM   #152 
  - ...and THEN it wasn't active.  RUMMYisFROSTED   May-24-08 08:41 AM   #31 
  - Oh bullshit.  Warren Stupidity   May-24-08 08:42 AM   #32 
  - What a shame that all you can do is attack me personally  bigtree   May-24-08 08:43 AM   #37 
     - I'm begging you to come to your senses  Warren Stupidity   May-24-08 08:50 AM   #43 
        - I'm going to have opinions and I'm going to ocassionally post them  bigtree   May-24-08 08:52 AM   #48 
  - Attempts to frame  H2O Man   May-24-08 08:42 AM   #33 
  - Well, I'll be in good company where I stand. RFK Jr. Says No One Should Be Offended  bigtree   May-24-08 08:57 AM   #51 
     - Yes, Robert is  H2O Man   May-24-08 09:01 AM   #57 
     - point taken.  bigtree   May-24-08 09:07 AM   #66 
        - And you, as well.  H2O Man   May-24-08 09:15 AM   #70 
     - That's fair of him to say  graycem   May-24-08 04:09 PM   #147 
  - A Drunk Man's Word Is A Sober Man's  chitty   May-24-08 08:42 AM   #34 
  - "All she meant" is crystal clear.....  marions ghost   May-24-08 08:44 AM   #38 
  - Great post. Thanks. nt  JenniferZ   May-24-08 09:03 AM   #60 
  - Note that the Tweety's out there never show us the context - they never play the tape of the  Seabiscuit   May-24-08 08:44 AM   #39 
  - It's about time your side dealt with it  Blondbostonian   May-24-08 08:51 AM   #46 
  - Careless language  Bavorskoami   May-24-08 08:49 AM   #42 
  - You're attempting logic in a mosh pit. Good luck.  Elspeth   May-24-08 08:50 AM   #44 
  - So you don't find anything disgusting with her statement?  skooooo   May-24-08 08:57 AM   #52 
     - The OP's statement? Bigtree is as welcome to her opinion as you are to yours?  Elspeth   May-24-08 09:23 AM   #75 
  - The primary schedule was completely different in 1968.  Crunchy Frog   May-24-08 08:56 AM   #50 
  - Well, then why didn't she just say Bobby Kennedy was still fighting for the nomination in June  my3boyz   May-24-08 09:02 AM   #58 
  - EXACTLY. WHY bring up assassination?  GarbagemanLB   May-24-08 09:04 AM   #62 
  - Exactly. That was my point to him above. But he says that's  JenniferZ   May-24-08 09:04 AM   #63 
  - As were Eugene McCarthy and Hubert Humphrey  BeyondGeography   May-24-08 07:21 PM   #161 
  - No, that's not what she meant...  Jeff In Milwaukee   May-24-08 09:04 AM   #61 
  - She said "assassination" in a discussion about why she's still in the race.  weezy2736   May-24-08 09:06 AM   #64 
  - Yep. It was a stupid gaffe. But, one that will happily sink her chances for VP.  Tierra_y_Libertad   May-24-08 09:09 AM   #67 
  - Hillary has mentioned assassination before--She has a mental problem  IndianaGreen   May-24-08 09:12 AM   #68 
  - Hordes of newbies signing in w/ manufactured outrage  OzarkDem   May-24-08 09:18 AM   #71 
  - And where were you during snubgate/ bittergate/ facescratchinggate?  MrsT   May-24-08 09:40 AM   #88 
     - He was rubbing one out nightly in front of the computer.  cottonseed   May-24-08 01:41 PM   #141 
  - No, it is not.  Arkana   May-24-08 09:19 AM   #72 
  - The lengths some will go through to excuse this is astounding  Terri S   May-24-08 09:23 AM   #73 
  - You mean like RFK Jr.? Did he go to 'astounding lengths' in his defense of her?  bigtree   May-24-08 09:37 AM   #84 
     - You keep using Robert Kennedy like this only matters to him.  gal   May-24-08 10:37 AM   #123 
  - When you are running for President, you have to think carefully and speak carefully.  CLW   May-24-08 09:23 AM   #74 
  - Bigtree, I'm sorry.  Kristi1696   May-24-08 09:25 AM   #76 
  - she had a full statement which included that comment. I just think this is overblown  bigtree   May-24-08 09:35 AM   #82 
     - And if it weren't...  Kristi1696   May-24-08 09:53 AM   #97 
        - Well, I'm with Kennedy  bigtree   May-24-08 09:59 AM   #100 
  - That's how I interpreted it, too. And I'm not a  LibDemAlways   May-24-08 09:33 AM   #81 
  - Too bad for her that she didn't say that - in her repeated comments!  JackRiddler   May-24-08 09:36 AM   #83 
  - In a statement, Kennedy Jr. said:  bigtree   May-24-08 09:39 AM   #86 
     - That's very nice of him - as a Clinton endorser.  JackRiddler   May-24-08 10:47 AM   #126 
  - AMEN! The fevered fauxrage here is worthy of an oscar.  Skip Intro   May-24-08 09:39 AM   #85 
  - Would someone who is truly "ready on day one"  phiddle   May-24-08 09:40 AM   #89 
  - The information about this and Obamas minister has  midnight   May-24-08 09:44 AM   #92 
  - Maybe she did  intaglio   May-24-08 09:55 AM   #98 
  - heh, I've not criticized him in any significant way and I'm not going to start now  bigtree   May-24-08 10:03 AM   #104 
     - This honesty what I have come to expect from you  intaglio   May-24-08 03:40 PM   #142 
  - Then she should have said that.  Andy823   May-24-08 10:00 AM   #101 
  - Exactly right, bigtree. n/t  Shine   May-24-08 10:00 AM   #102 
  - Then she should have said it that way.  OurVotesCount-Ohio   May-24-08 10:01 AM   #103 
  - bigtree - you are totally being biased here - accept she messed up and move on.  asSEENonTV   May-24-08 10:04 AM   #105 
  - Tell that to RFK Jr.  bigtree   May-24-08 10:19 AM   #112 
     - You gotta quit with the RFK Jr. thing.  cottonseed   May-24-08 01:39 PM   #140 
  - There are at least a dozen other examples, she conveyed, "June is the month for assassinations."  ShortnFiery   May-24-08 10:30 AM   #116 
  - Nice pro-clinton damage control  cbc5g   May-24-08 10:31 AM   #118 
  - She should have run a positive campaign  cbc5g   May-24-08 10:34 AM   #121 
  - I feel sorry  odelisk8   May-24-08 10:45 AM   #125 
  - Still NOT okay to say, by the way, he was assassinated. there are many other references to make  slinkerwink   May-24-08 11:05 AM   #128 
  - Hitler campaigned hard against seemingly impossible odds.  JVS   May-24-08 11:08 AM   #130 
  - I can buy Clinton didn't mean anything by the statement, but god, what a stupid, tactless statement  mystieus   May-24-08 11:08 AM   #131 
  - actually she said "through June". It was only 4 days.  mishte   May-24-08 11:13 AM   #132 
  - Bullshit  Carolina   May-24-08 11:52 AM   #136 
  - Bill had the nomination wrapped up before June and she had made the assasination remarks before  thewiseguy   May-24-08 11:58 AM   #138 
  - Bullshit.  RoadRage   May-24-08 01:29 PM   #139 
  - There were 100 ways to say it. She picked the absolute worst one.  Skrelnick   May-24-08 03:42 PM   #143 
  - Then why didn't she just say that - and leave the assassination remarks out?  last1standing   May-24-08 03:44 PM   #144 
  - Oh yes, poor little darling. Never mind Huckster's comments at the NRA Convention  Overseas   May-24-08 03:48 PM   #145 
  - The reason I think  graycem   May-24-08 03:58 PM   #146 
  - Spin and twist her comments all you want.as. Rove would be proud. eom  smiley_glad_hands   May-24-08 05:42 PM   #149 
  - I think that's what she meant. The problem is, that's not what she  JerseygirlCT   May-24-08 05:47 PM   #150 
  - NONONO!! "June" is racist code speak for "Hope he dies!!!"  MethuenProgressive   May-24-08 05:49 PM   #151 
  - It's symptomatic of Hillary wearing herself out trying to make an argument that she can still win  Hippo_Tron   May-24-08 05:52 PM   #153 
  - I am an Obama supporter and I think you're right about her intended meaning  BurtWorm   May-24-08 06:13 PM   #154 
  - Clinton's intended meaning--for the 4th time...?  Freda People   May-24-08 06:34 PM   #156 
  - Please God. Tell me you're kidding.  Phx_Dem   May-24-08 06:24 PM   #155 
  - Here's Bigtree, here's a picture to illustrate your point  Wolsh   May-24-08 06:37 PM   #157 
  - post like this are what make you so popular here  bigtree   May-24-08 08:06 PM   #162 
     - You're right, I could take your route to popularity  Wolsh   May-24-08 08:12 PM   #163 
  - take out the word assassination and put in hang nail  grantcart   May-24-08 06:44 PM   #158 
  - You are correct. Even his son admits it n/t  Combative Democrat   May-24-08 06:47 PM   #159 
  - She phrased it very poorly if that is what she intend to convey.  ecdab   May-24-08 08:41 PM   #166 
 

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