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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #41
51. yes but we have a large block of Dems who will not vote for our nominee
or saying they will vote for McSame if their candidate does not win.

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  -Its not about a fight at the Convention, its about not having a Nominee until the Convention LSK  May-22-08 11:04 AM   #0 
  - Then both Obama and Clinton should drop out, so we can nominate a "generic Democrat" that could win  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:07 AM   #1 
  - We could nominate anyone  spinbaby   May-22-08 11:08 AM   #2 
  - Maybe a turnip, but probably not Obama or Clinton.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:10 AM   #4 
     - especially when there are 3 more months of hate spewed on both of them  LSK   May-22-08 11:10 AM   #7 
        - Gore/Edwards '08  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:11 AM   #8 
           - ahhh, so piss off 90% of the dems instead of 50% of the dems?  LSK   May-22-08 11:12 AM   #10 
              - More like 25%.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:13 AM   #12 
                 - come on MNDemNY, think a little  LSK   May-22-08 11:16 AM   #15 
                    - You'd rather ride the "High Horse" to defeat???  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:19 AM   #20 
                    - no, Id rather ride the candidate who won most of the primaries and delegates  LSK   May-22-08 11:22 AM   #24 
                       - Running either Clinton or Obama, also has "ramifications":President McCain, or worse.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:23 AM   #27 
                    - Good points.  emilyg   May-22-08 12:57 PM   #75 
  - how about we finish the primaries and go with the winner???  LSK   May-22-08 11:09 AM   #3 
     - No winner 'till the delegates vote.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:10 AM   #6 
        - why?  LSK   May-22-08 11:11 AM   #9 
           - Delagates can and do change thier minds.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:12 AM   #11 
              - so because of the off chance that a few delegates change their minds  LSK   May-22-08 11:14 AM   #13 
                 - If that's what it takes to get a nominee that can win, yes.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:14 AM   #14 
                    - What if it takes until December?  Bleachers7   May-22-08 11:17 AM   #16 
                    - Convention over well before that.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:18 AM   #19 
                    - how will 3 more months of infighting get us a candidate who can win?  LSK   May-22-08 11:17 AM   #18 
                       - If we run either, and or both of these folks, IMHO we lose.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:20 AM   #22 
                          - your logic? heres mine...  LSK   May-22-08 11:23 AM   # 
                             - Goody, we have a lock on Oregon.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:24 AM   #29 
                                - go look at that again AND wheres your reasons?  LSK   May-22-08 11:24 AM   #30 
                                   - Well, gee, pack up the babies and grab the old ladies  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:29 AM   #34 
                                      - you going to answer the question??????????  LSK   May-22-08 11:30 AM   #36 
                                      - Neither Clinton or Obama can get enough votes to win the GE.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:32 AM   #38 
                                         - in case you havnt been paying attention, every Dem primary has had record turnout  LSK   May-22-08 11:35 AM   #40 
                                         - Democratic Primary voters are a pretty solid bloc for a Dem in the GE,  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:37 AM   #42 
                                            - Among whom Hillary has a 50% plus negative rating  RainDog   May-22-08 11:41 AM   #46 
                                            - I have never argued for a Clinton nomination, that as well, IMHO, is fatal.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:43 AM   #50 
                                            - and how does Gore attacked independents more than Obama or anyone else?  LSK   May-22-08 11:43 AM   #49 
                                               - It's a ballroom blitz!!!!!!!!!!!  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:44 AM   #52 
                                               - df jkawue tioawuwghqei otu890  LSK   May-22-08 11:51 AM   #57 
                                               - Hype, excitement, little time to's marketing.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:52 AM   #58 
                                         - wrong. Obama draws from Independents and highly-educated Republicans  RainDog   May-22-08 11:39 AM   #44 
                                            - You speak of "democratic" voters, on;ly about 25% of the GE voters.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:40 AM   #45 
                                               - even less are primary voters - BUT NOT THIS YEAR  LSK   May-22-08 11:42 AM   #47 
                                               - Go read the post. Obama draws highly-educated Republicans and Independents  RainDog   May-22-08 11:42 AM   #48 
                                                  - Numbers there do not over-ride the, I hate the term, joe six-pack.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:46 AM   #53 
                                                  - Gas prices do.  SoonerPride   May-22-08 12:53 PM   #71 
                                                  - how do you know? what actual figures support your claim? you have none.  RainDog   May-22-08 12:57 PM   #74 
                                                  - count them, take your shoes off if you have to.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 01:06 PM   #76 
                                                  - in other words, you have NOTHING to support your claim.  RainDog   May-22-08 02:17 PM   #77 
                                                  - Nothing that can contradict the kool-aid.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 02:41 PM   #78 
                                                  - the only argument you have is insults. I have data from well-respected orgs.  RainDog   May-22-08 02:53 PM   #80 
                                                  - Your well respected orgs just don't add up..even using hillary-math.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 02:57 PM   #81 
                                      - Neil? Is that you?  newmajority   May-22-08 12:56 PM   #73 
  - we will have an official presumptive nominee within 2 weeks.  cali   May-22-08 11:10 AM   #5 
  - Key word ...presumptive.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:17 AM   #17 
     - And I give Obama a 100% of being our nominee.  SoonerPride   May-22-08 11:19 AM   #21 
        - Hello President McCain.(or maybe bush)  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:21 AM   #23 
           - why?  LSK   May-22-08 11:22 AM   #25 
           - Spoiled child syndrome  SoonerPride   May-22-08 11:23 AM   #28 
           - Obama can't win, Clinton can't win, Obama/Clinton only 50-50  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:25 AM   #31 
              - AGAIN why cant Obama win?  LSK   May-22-08 11:27 AM   #33 
                 - Because he will not get enough votes, basically.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:30 AM   #35 
                    - for WHAT REASON?  LSK   May-22-08 11:31 AM   #37 
                       - see post 38.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:33 AM   #39 
           - So sad to be delusional. There are meds that can help you.  SoonerPride   May-22-08 11:23 AM   #26 
              - Typical response from your ilk.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:27 AM   #32 
                 - Back up your nonsense with facts, then.  SoonerPride   May-22-08 11:38 AM   #43 
                    - Can't win the largest voting block out there: Middle-low income whites.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:48 AM   #54 
                       - When gas is $4.50 in November ANY Dem will win 42 states.  SoonerPride   May-22-08 12:21 PM   #59 
                       - We wish.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 12:23 PM   #61 
                          - I have faith that when the voters see their standard of living decrease  SoonerPride   May-22-08 12:26 PM   #63 
                             - Blind faith........the edge of doom.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 12:28 PM   #65 
                                - Not blind faith, just political reality. You should stop living in fear. It's unhealthy.  SoonerPride   May-22-08 12:37 PM   #66 
                                   - No one will win "big"  MNDemNY   May-22-08 12:39 PM   #67 
                                      - Obama will. 42 states. Blowout of Reagan sized proportions.  SoonerPride   May-22-08 12:44 PM   #68 
                                         - It would be nice if only DUers voted, wouldn't it?  MNDemNY   May-22-08 12:48 PM   #69 
                                            - Millions of Americans vote and mostly they vote with their wallet  SoonerPride   May-22-08 12:52 PM   #70 
                                               - You mean like they did in 2004????Or 2000?...or 1980?  MNDemNY   May-22-08 12:55 PM   #72 
                       - IN APPALACHIA, elsewhere not a problem. nt  Obama_for_our_future   May-22-08 02:46 PM   #79 
  - You could give him a year's head start spouting the same old failed Bush policies  Cronus Protagonist   May-22-08 11:36 AM   #41 
     - yes but we have a large block of Dems who will not vote for our nominee  LSK   May-22-08 11:44 AM   #51 
        - Come the election, this will change  Cronus Protagonist   May-22-08 11:50 AM   #55 
        - Those poll numbers are largely suspect, IMHO.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 11:51 AM   #56 
        - They'll calm down.  SoonerPride   May-22-08 12:21 PM   #60 
           - Yes, the VAST majority of Dem. Primary voters will support the Nominee.  MNDemNY   May-22-08 12:24 PM   #62 
              - Those defectors will be overwhelmed by newly registered voters.  SoonerPride   May-22-08 12:27 PM   #64 

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