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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:14 AM
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38. Zogby.
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  -Clinton internals show her down by only FIVE, not FIFTEEN, in North Carolina geek tragedy  May-06-08 10:54 AM   #0 
  - She would be campaigning in NC right now if that was the case  thewiseguy   May-06-08 10:55 AM   #1 
  - Agreed  Jake3463   May-06-08 10:55 AM   #2 
  - Polls show her DOWN in NC but UP in IN.  geek tragedy   May-06-08 10:56 AM   #5 
  - Doing what? Watching TV? Making GOTV calls?  MADem   May-06-08 11:01 AM   #18 
  - Indiana is a lock for her to win--that's why she's there. n/t  geek tragedy   May-06-08 10:55 AM   #3 
  - She can spend the day doing photo-ops and TV interviews  Jake3463   May-06-08 10:56 AM   #4 
  - She's trying to run up the score in IN, which she may win  geek tragedy   May-06-08 10:56 AM   #7 
     - It's really moot  Jake3463   May-06-08 10:57 AM   #10 
  - Indiana is not a lock for her. You will see for yourself tonight.  thewiseguy   May-06-08 10:56 AM   #6 
     - Just like PA was a tossup according to all the polls. n/t  geek tragedy   May-06-08 10:57 AM   #9 
        - Nope  Jake3463   May-06-08 10:58 AM   #11 
        - Only PPP thought it was a tossup. Every other poll had her up 6-16 points.  hnmnf   May-06-08 10:58 AM   #12 
        - And every poll outside Zogby has produced a consistent win for her in Indiana.  Zynx   May-06-08 11:00 AM   #15 
        - IA, PPP, Zogby have it closing or close.  hnmnf   May-06-08 11:01 AM   #19 
           - Zogby and IA are the two worst pollsters out there besides ARG. n/t  geek tragedy   May-06-08 11:03 AM   #25 
           - Let me guess. Its only SUSA that is reliable? I heard they got it right in Pennsylvania too.  thewiseguy   May-06-08 11:05 AM   #28 
              - They sure did!  prodn2000   May-06-08 11:45 AM   #50 
           - The bulk of the polling evidence is fairly clear. I've learned after years of watching  Zynx   May-06-08 11:12 AM   #34 
           - Zogby.  Hoof Hearted   May-06-08 11:14 AM   #38 
        - And every other poll in IN shows her up by 9-12 points.  geek tragedy   May-06-08 11:02 AM   #20 
           - RCP says 1 poll in their average has it in that range  hnmnf   May-06-08 11:10 AM   #32 
        - PA was a closed primary. Indiana has an open primary.  thewiseguy   May-06-08 10:59 AM   #13 
        - Two words: Operation Chaos. n/t  geek tragedy   May-06-08 11:02 AM   #22 
           - You are giving Rush way too much credit  thewiseguy   May-06-08 11:06 AM   #29 
        - BS  Inuca   May-06-08 11:01 AM   #17 
        - all the polls showed Hillary ahead in PA--only one had Obama ahead  book_worm   May-06-08 11:02 AM   #21 
           - Only one--the AWFUL Zogby, has him ahead in IN. n/t  geek tragedy   May-06-08 11:03 AM   #24 
              - There are too many variables at play in today. Independents and Republicans are a big factor  thewiseguy   May-06-08 11:04 AM   #26 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-06-08 11:15 AM   #40 
                 - How is this guy still posting on DU?  thewiseguy   May-06-08 11:17 AM   #42 
                 - For whatever reason...  Hoof Hearted   May-06-08 11:17 AM   #43 
  - Uh ..."wise?" guy--candidates do not CAMPAIGN on election day.  MADem   May-06-08 10:57 AM   #8 
     - I suppose you mean holding rallies. Campaigning is not always about holding rallies.  thewiseguy   May-06-08 11:02 AM   #23 
        - Candidates don't CAMPAIGN on election day. It's poor form.  MADem   May-06-08 11:12 AM   #33 
  - The girls have the momentum???  Hepburn   May-06-08 10:59 AM   #14 
  - I don't get that, either.  Erin Elizabeth   May-06-08 11:05 AM   #27 
  - They are probably talking about the other candidates in NC. Perdue and Kagan as well.  hnmnf   May-06-08 11:12 AM   #36 
  - Momentum or not, 25% of the votes are already in, and Obama's up by 15% there...  beat tk   May-06-08 11:01 AM   #16 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-06-08 11:14 AM   #39 
  - Do you have some kind of inside information? WTF!  hell-bent   May-06-08 11:18 AM   #45 
     - Early voting was polled, and the numbers are very uniform.  beat tk   May-06-08 11:20 AM   #46 
  - "the girls"? Wonder if they will later say "the black people have the momentum". n/t  greguganus   May-06-08 11:09 AM   #30 
  - good news!  MonkeyFunk   May-06-08 11:10 AM   #31 
  - So, if Obama wins by 9.1%, is that the same kind of "double digit win" as Pennsylvania?  TahitiNut   May-06-08 11:12 AM   #35 
  - He just needs to win 54.51 % of the vote.  hnmnf   May-06-08 11:13 AM   # 
  - Does anyone trust her "internals"?  Zodiak Ironfist   May-06-08 11:13 AM   #37 
  - Not to mention the fact that  redstate_democrat   May-06-08 03:19 PM   #56 
  - isn't Mark Penn her internal pollster? that says enough right there.  Lerkfish   May-06-08 03:23 PM   #58 
  - PPP has been very wild this year - btw who is this blogger?  grantcart   May-06-08 11:16 AM   #41 
  - Is this sarcasm?  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-06-08 11:18 AM   #44 
  - If she takes NC, I will have to record the Big Dawgs  Jim4Wes   May-06-08 11:39 AM   #47 
  - hmm...Stupid Bolton on A.M. radio this morning...  snooper2   May-06-08 11:42 AM   #48 
  - When the delegates are counted, Obama wins today.  TexasObserver   May-06-08 11:43 AM   #49 
  - the girls?  sfexpat2000   May-06-08 03:09 PM   #51 
  - (o) (o)  prodn2000   May-06-08 03:17 PM   #55 
  - And this is what passes for a pro-woman campaign.  sfexpat2000   May-06-08 03:44 PM   #63 
     - Yep!  prodn2000   May-06-08 03:59 PM   #67 
  - He's speaking about the local candidate I think.  dbmk   May-06-08 03:19 PM   #57 
     - Prepubescent local candidates?  sfexpat2000   May-06-08 03:43 PM   #62 
  - Meanwhile the math still proves she can't win the nom. But that doesn't matter to you, does it?  Pawel K   May-06-08 03:12 PM   #52 
  - Does it matter to you that the math shows NEITHER can win?  Evergreen Emerald   May-06-08 03:13 PM   #53 
     - That's absolutely untrue  Pawel K   May-06-08 03:24 PM   #59 
     - Who will win then? If neither can win?  dbmk   May-06-08 03:27 PM   #60 
     - some clinton supporters are math-aphobic.  Lerkfish   May-06-08 03:47 PM   #65 
     - we're too busy not paying attention to the one losing in all categories  Lerkfish   May-06-08 03:47 PM   #64 
  - Who the hell are "the girls" ???  bunnies   May-06-08 03:14 PM   #54 
  - Hillary - and Bev Perdue mentioned in the same story, I suspect  dbmk   May-06-08 03:32 PM   #61 
  - I don't believe it. I live in NC. Its going BIG BIG for Obama today  BrentTaylor   May-06-08 03:49 PM   #66 
  - If Obama doesn't win NC by a bajillion points, then NC doesn't count!!!  Triana   May-06-08 04:24 PM   #68 

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