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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:30 AM
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88. "What Hillary is doing, which is running a relatively positive campaign..."
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 01:31 AM by Eric Condon
If you honestly believe that, you need help.

This "meme" of comparing Zellary with the Rethugs is based in the FACT that she is running the dirtiest, most Rovian campaign this side of the Swiftboat Veterans. I don't hesitate for a second to compare "a fellow Democrat" like her to the Republicans, because she's not a Democrat. I don't know what the hell she is, but she's not one of us.

The Clintons really are the Democratic Bu$hes - a freakish, far-right mutant corporate perversion of what their party is supposed to be. It's a good thing their political career is OVER. Not a moment too soon, either.
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  -47% of voters think Obama is too inexperienced to be a good president jackson_dem  Apr-26-08 11:19 PM   #0 
  - McCain has more experience than Clinton. Therefore he's best suited for the presidency  anonymous171   Apr-26-08 11:20 PM   #1 
  - Another cop out. That isn't how voting behavior works  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:21 PM   #3 
  - How would you know?  Mooney   Apr-26-08 11:33 PM   #30 
  - You just don't get it do you? I can't blame you because I  Solomon   Apr-26-08 11:39 PM   #41 
  - a chronic and fatal error  Two Americas   Apr-27-08 03:10 AM   #122 
     - Another great post, Two Americas  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 03:14 AM   #123 
  - "Oh, but the TYPE of experience counts!"  PseudoIntellect   Apr-26-08 11:21 PM   #5 
  - There is an experience threshold you need to meet to become president.  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 12:39 AM   #58 
  - You DID become a "hilbot" overnight.  anonymous171   Apr-27-08 12:43 AM   #62 
  - It is the truth  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:12 AM   #72 
     - The only "threshold" is one of age.  anonymous171   Apr-27-08 01:14 AM   #74 
     - Bullshit Jackson  hnmnf   Apr-27-08 01:26 AM   #85 
        - You are too smart to buy this  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:33 AM   #91 
  - Self delete.  Hansel   Apr-27-08 11:36 AM   #148 
  - well, gee, then vote for him.  rodeodance   Apr-27-08 12:41 AM   #60 
  - Clinton was Arkansas' First Lady in 1978. McCain entered Congress in 1982.  Yossariant   Apr-27-08 04:27 AM   #124 
  - Link Please? [nt]  MannyGoldstein   Apr-26-08 11:20 PM   #2 
  - I edited the OP to put the link in  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:21 PM   #4 
  - Thanks.  emilyg   Apr-26-08 11:28 PM   #19 
  - Here:  BalancedGoat   Apr-26-08 11:22 PM   #7 
  - I am a Hillary supporter.  ccharles000   Apr-26-08 11:22 PM   #6 
  - And yet he still beats McCain...  hnmnf   Apr-26-08 11:22 PM   #8 
  - When is the election? April or November?  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:28 PM   #18 
     - Well it sounds like you are citing a poll from April as well  hnmnf   Apr-26-08 11:29 PM   #23 
        - If it is 47% now and if you are pro sense guess what the number would be in November?  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:31 PM   #27 
           - Well I thought Obama can gain experience on the campaign trail?  hnmnf   Apr-26-08 11:32 PM   #29 
              - Bowling a 37 for the cameras on the campaign trail doesn't qualify you to be president  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:34 PM   #34 
                 - Not what Howie saaaaiiiiid. He said that Obama gain CIC experience on the Campaign trail.  hnmnf   Apr-26-08 11:38 PM   #37 
                    - Who cares what he said? He is a politician, as Rev. Wright would tell you  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:38 PM   #39 
                       - Noooo, Howie is a Junkyard dog, not a politician.  hnmnf   Apr-26-08 11:40 PM   #42 
  - Exactly why he will never win the GE  leftofcool   Apr-26-08 11:22 PM   #9 
  - leftofcool, you turned so far left you are now to the right. n/t  Exilednight   Apr-26-08 11:24 PM   #13 
  - ?  leftofcool   Apr-26-08 11:25 PM   #14 
  - such nonsense. either can win. anything can happen in 6 months  cali   Apr-27-08 05:41 AM   #127 
  - Nice distortion of truth. Obama has more elected experience than Hillary, or are you one of .......  Exilednight   Apr-26-08 11:23 PM   #10 
  - Yep, voting "present" give one lots of that experience  leftofcool   Apr-26-08 11:27 PM   #15 
  - 47% of people don't give a fuck that he played poker with lobbyists in Springfield  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:29 PM   #22 
  - And nearly the same percentage of people don't give a fuck that Hillary was the First Lady. n/t  Exilednight   Apr-26-08 11:33 PM   #31 
     - The netroots don't. The real world does  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:36 PM   #36 
        - So you admit that the informed people don't buy into her 35 years experience. Thanks for admitting.  Exilednight   Apr-26-08 11:38 PM   #38 
           - Remember this classic quote?  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:39 PM   #40 
              - Well if Obama is Stevenson, then Hillary is Mondale, but polls show that if elections were..........  Exilednight   Apr-26-08 11:44 PM   #46 
  - In my state, state senators are part time.  cornermouse   Apr-27-08 06:19 AM   #129 
     - So you are projecting, and making a minsinformed opinion from the experience in your state? I'm....  Exilednight   Apr-27-08 09:18 AM   #134 
     - People make decisions based upon what they see and hear  cornermouse   Apr-27-08 10:12 AM   #135 
        - In the post I replied to, you did not say..................  Exilednight   Apr-27-08 10:18 AM   #136 
     - You're from Texas, too?  okasha   Apr-27-08 10:26 AM   #137 
        - No.  cornermouse   Apr-27-08 10:40 AM   #140 
           - It's warm any time the Texas lege  okasha   Apr-27-08 11:20 AM   #142 
              - I'm envious of your weather.  cornermouse   Apr-27-08 11:25 AM   #143 
  - I think both of the candidate have ceilings for the primaries.  PseudoIntellect   Apr-26-08 11:23 PM   #11 
  - Clinton hit her ceiling?  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 12:42 AM   #61 
  - There it is again - "important states." Your mouth to God's ears. nt  Eric Condon   Apr-27-08 01:22 AM   #81 
     - The electoral college exists even if Obamites want to pretend it does not  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:34 AM   #93 
        - No, the myth that only Zellary's states "matter" exists and is propagated by Hillbots  Eric Condon   Apr-27-08 01:51 AM   #105 
           - That would work only if you buy the Obama hype  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 02:11 AM   #111 
  - Clinton's expanding her coalition, Obama is contracting as he gets known better  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:14 AM   #73 
     - Simply put.."Obama has peaked"...  Tellurian   Apr-27-08 05:53 AM   #128 
  - Stil running down one of the two likely Democrats to gain the nomination?  CreekDog   Apr-26-08 11:23 PM   #12 
  - Posting reality isn't "running down", except to ____ members...  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:29 PM   #24 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-26-08 11:34 PM   #33 
  - I remember when I didn't have much experience  panader0   Apr-26-08 11:27 PM   #16 
  - Since Hillary is so far behind Obama that she can't catch up they must think she's an idiot.  kwenu   Apr-26-08 11:27 PM   #17 
  - Obama is a better primary candidate because he gets 90% of the black vote  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 12:44 AM   #63 
     - They think the GE has the same demographics as Dem primaries  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:15 AM   #75 
     - Every candidate has a natural consituency. Obama excites his. Hillary doesn't excite hers.  kwenu   Apr-27-08 03:56 PM   #162 
  - ever get a new job?  blue sky at night   Apr-26-08 11:28 PM   #20 
  - Yeah! Fuck the voters! Who cares if McSame wins!  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:31 PM   #28 
     - The voters voted for Obama, not Hillary.  Mooney   Apr-26-08 11:36 PM   #35 
        - Thus far  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 12:34 AM   #55 
  - Considering that 50% of that 47% thought that Bush DID have  NCevilDUer   Apr-26-08 11:29 PM   #21 
  - It's So Excellent How The Clintons Are Kneecapping The Dem Nominee  MannyGoldstein   Apr-26-08 11:30 PM   #25 
  - I love this Obamite argument. Glass jaw Obama can't take light jabs from Dems  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 11:33 PM   #32 
  - Clinton Has Lost To Obama. That Is A Fact.  MannyGoldstein   Apr-26-08 11:41 PM   #43 
  - Yup, Hillary's effectively trying to push toothpaste back into the tube  Zambero   Apr-26-08 11:48 PM   #50 
  - Who cares? Your own argument implies Obama has a glass jaw  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 12:36 AM   #56 
  - Clinton has lost nothing to Obama.  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 12:55 AM   #68 
     - Their argument makes no sense. If you accept it you have to logically then believe he can't win a GE  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:17 AM   #76 
  - I think he has arguably taken more jabs than Hill and Mick put together.  kwenu   Apr-26-08 11:43 PM   #45 
     - No, he's been losing mostly since he began taking light jabs  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:17 AM   #77 
        - Questioning ones loyalty and patriotism and infering you're not really American is not light.  kwenu   Apr-27-08 03:05 PM   #161 
  - Nobody is kneecapping the Democratic nominee.  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 12:47 AM   #65 
  - 38% of the monkeys flying around my butt say  cliffordu   Apr-26-08 11:31 PM   #26 
  - And less than 39% of voters ...  NanceGreggs   Apr-26-08 11:42 PM   #44 
  - Isn't That Amazing?  MannyGoldstein   Apr-26-08 11:54 PM   #51 
  - Obama will meet that level by August with the way his trendlines are heading.  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 12:48 AM   #67 
  - He may get there by the end of June  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:21 AM   #80 
  - What is more important to voters?  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:19 AM   #79 
     - "embellishes a story" ....She lied through her teeth.  cliffordu   Apr-27-08 01:25 AM   #84 
     - What IS more important to voters?  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 01:28 AM   #86 
        - That is very naive  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:37 AM   #96 
           - [i]"The more they see, the less they like of Barack Obama."[/i]  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 01:41 AM   #99 
              - He's been losing as he gets better known  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:48 AM   #104 
                 - Yeah, I know ...  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 01:53 AM   #106 
                    - I posted the numbers and they speak for themselves  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 02:06 AM   #109 
                       - Why don't we skip the "analogies" ...  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 02:08 AM   #110 
                          - This is winning since the vetting began?  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 02:17 AM   #112 
                             - He's winning.  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 02:19 AM   #114 
                                - Crossing the finish line behind is "winning"?  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 02:27 AM   #116 
                                - Count the delegates ...  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 02:29 AM   #118 
                                   - You moved the goalpost yourself  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 02:36 AM   #120 
                                      - You're using racing stats ...  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 11:35 AM   #147 
                                - One of the things I like about Jackson_dem is that he (she?)  cliffordu   Apr-27-08 02:29 AM   #117 
                                - Yeah, I think you summed it up with ...  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 02:33 AM   #119 
                                   - So Jeff Burton won the Phoenix race? I saw him cross the finish line 6th  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 03:01 AM   #121 
                                   - LOL  cliffordu   Apr-27-08 10:36 AM   #139 
                                - Are you really that dense?  Lirwin2   Apr-27-08 11:25 AM   #144 
                                   - Proven?  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 11:32 AM   #145 
                                      - By providing for you statistics which prove that Obama can't take a hit  Lirwin2   Apr-27-08 11:45 AM   #149 
                                         - Racing stats prove ...  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 11:55 AM   #151 
                                            - These stats actually. Maybe you just didn't see them  Lirwin2   Apr-27-08 11:58 AM   #152 
                                               - No, I saw it.  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 12:03 PM   #153 
                                                  - Nance, you're missing the point  Lirwin2   Apr-27-08 12:23 PM   #154 
                                                     - You're right.  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 12:29 PM   #155 
                                                     - Whether she will or she won't doesn't detract from the point  Lirwin2   Apr-27-08 12:37 PM   #156 
                                                     - Yeah, OIbama can't take a hit ...  NanceGreggs   Apr-27-08 12:50 PM   #158 
                                                     - The nomination is not over.  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 12:59 PM   #160 
  - Cheney and Rumsfeld Win!!!!!!!!  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-26-08 11:44 PM   #47 
  - Rof! Can't find anyone with much more Washington experience than those two madmen! n/t  chill_wind   Apr-27-08 12:48 AM   #66 
     - How about Poppa Bush! He knows what he doing  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-27-08 02:01 AM   #108 
  - And is McCain too old? Too trigger happy? Too much of a vindictive asshole?  Zambero   Apr-26-08 11:45 PM   #48 
  - McSame's unfavorables will go up too as he gets attacked by Dems  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:23 AM   #82 
  - after bush, ANYONE CAN BE PRESIDENT  Skittles   Apr-26-08 11:46 PM   #49 
  - Ding! Ding! Ding! We have another WINNER!  kwenu   Apr-26-08 11:57 PM   #52 
  - That's fine. He'll take the other 53%  bluestateguy   Apr-27-08 12:01 AM   #53 
  - Right on!  Snarkoleptic   Apr-27-08 12:05 AM   #54 
  - Oh. Obama will win 50% of that 53%? He will sweep them?  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 12:37 AM   #57 
  - recommend  xchrom   Apr-27-08 12:41 AM   #59 
  - and 53% dont  swampg8r   Apr-27-08 12:46 AM   #64 
  - 53% don't in April.  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 12:56 AM   #69 
  - like hillary is doing now?  swampg8r   Apr-27-08 01:08 AM   #70 
     - Will we please stop with this meme that what HIllary is doing is comparable to that of the rethugs?  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 01:09 AM   #71 
        - Oh yeah, REZKO WRIGHT AYERS HAMAS FARRAKHAN is really positive.  Alexander   Apr-27-08 01:18 AM   #78 
        - Attacks happen in campaigns. Primary attacks are child's play to general election ones  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:40 AM   #97 
        - Anyone who compares what Hillary is doing to what the rethugs will do is  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:28 AM   #87 
        - I was blinded by Clinton hate for a while, thank goodness I came back to Earth.  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 01:34 AM   #92 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-27-08 01:35 AM   #94 
           - Did you land on your head when you came back to earth?  JeffR   Apr-27-08 01:37 AM   #95 
              - dammit jeff  swampg8r   Apr-27-08 01:40 AM   #98 
                 - I'm not eligible  JeffR   Apr-27-08 01:43 AM   #101 
        - "What Hillary is doing, which is running a relatively positive campaign..."  Eric Condon   Apr-27-08 01:30 AM   #88 
        - The Clintons are Republicans, yet Bill appointed one of the most liberal justices since Earl Warren.  NJSecularist   Apr-27-08 01:33 AM   #90 
        - The netroots calls Clinton a rethug, Obama a progressive savior  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:44 AM   #102 
        - Yep, you're right - and since welfare reform, media deregulation, DOMA, etc never happened,  Eric Condon   Apr-27-08 02:00 AM   #107 
           - Obama: "Clinton's policies were recognizably progressive". Read the messiah's book  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 02:18 AM   #113 
              - The messiah? Your words, not mine. nt  Eric Condon   Apr-27-08 02:19 AM   #115 
        - This is an outrageous claim  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:42 AM   #100 
           - NJS accused Clinton of Rovian campaigning back in February. But now she has never done that?  hnmnf   Apr-27-08 01:44 AM   #103 
        - You did it yourself on Feb 23...What changed NJS? GOne Schizo on us?  hnmnf   Apr-27-08 01:32 AM   #89 
  - The election isn't in April. Ask Presidents Kerry, Dukakis  jackson_dem   Apr-27-08 01:24 AM   #83 
  - 60% of Americans Believe Senator Clinton Is Dishonest  mikekohr   Apr-27-08 05:14 AM   #125 
  - sorry, mike, that sensible comment is utterly wasted on those frothing  cali   Apr-27-08 05:36 AM   #126 
     - Sorry cali, I can't help myself nt  mikekohr   Apr-27-08 06:44 AM   #132 
  - The primary is over. HIllary lost.  bowens43   Apr-27-08 06:23 AM   #130 
  - 47% of voters are idiots. It's experienced people who got us into this mess. nt  Vinca   Apr-27-08 06:42 AM   #131 
  - Poll: Democrats 62-31 percent see Obama as better able to win in November  1776Forever   Apr-27-08 06:54 AM   #133 
  - Experience is a two way street. It also shows that Hill and McLame are part of  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Apr-27-08 10:27 AM   #138 
  - A poll taken before the election of 1860 by the NY Herald  Condem   Apr-27-08 11:06 AM   #141 
  - And 60% of voters think HRC is a liar.  yourguide   Apr-27-08 11:33 AM   #146 
  - I still am puzzled at Clinton's claims of "experience"  Armstead   Apr-27-08 11:50 AM   #150 
  - Thanks Rush, I needed to hear all that BS today. Tell Hanity I said hey.  IsItJustMe   Apr-27-08 12:48 PM   #157 
  - Didn't read any of the other responses  JustAnotherGen   Apr-27-08 12:57 PM   #159 

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