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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #103
107. They're making plans to cause a major confrontation over MI and FL...
I hope she's not the nominee... but I'm not counting chickens just yet.
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  -"an attack on Israel would trigger massive retaliation" redqueen  Apr-18-08 10:46 AM   #0 
  - ATTN; Rug  SoFlaJet   Apr-18-08 10:48 AM   #1 
  - Hahahaha...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 10:49 AM   #2 
  - That was not your quote. Nice try.  rug   Apr-18-08 10:51 AM   #5 
     - ostrich much?  elmerdem   Apr-18-08 11:02 AM   #23 
        - ...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:05 AM   #25 
        - thnk much?  rug   Apr-18-08 11:13 AM   #31 
           - Oh, we seem to be thinking far more than you are.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:14 AM   #33 
              - Answer #41.  rug   Apr-18-08 11:19 AM   #39 
              - Answer #s 42, 60, 72.  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 11:50 AM   #68 
              - Deterrance. We had the same policy toward the USSR for half a century  jackson_dem   Apr-19-08 04:28 AM   #133 
                 - deterrence??  LooseWilly   Apr-19-08 04:36 AM   #137 
                 - Iran has a history and it isn't one of sending flowers to other countries  jackson_dem   Apr-19-08 06:20 AM   #142 
                    - Deterrence is also completely and utterly worthless when one considers Iran's history.  Occam Bandage   Apr-19-08 11:03 AM   #143 
                 - You supported the Mutually Assured Destruction? Another conservative RW Dem for Hillary  Leopolds Ghost   Apr-21-08 12:17 PM   #148 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-18-08 10:49 AM   #3 
  - "but so would an attack on those countries that are willing to go under this security umbrella and  rug   Apr-18-08 10:50 AM   #4 
  - Uh... exactly! She's talking about expanding NATO  redqueen   Apr-18-08 10:51 AM   #6 
  - No, that's not what she's saying. Read about the Baghdad Pact.  rug   Apr-18-08 10:53 AM   #9 
  - Camouflage?  redqueen   Apr-18-08 10:55 AM   #11 
     - Given I don't argue with smileys, leave emoticon.com and read some history.  rug   Apr-18-08 10:59 AM   #18 
        - Aw what a pathetic strawman... did I ask you to "argue with smileys"?  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:00 AM   #21 
           - You should put that word in context.  rug   Apr-18-08 11:08 AM   #28 
              - Oh I am!  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:10 AM   #29 
                 - You haven't described her plan other than calling it batshit.  rug   Apr-18-08 11:16 AM   #35 
                    - She described her plan above.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:19 AM   #38 
                    - I did.  rug   Apr-18-08 11:22 AM   #44 
                       - Yes, and that makes it even crazier.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:24 AM   #46 
                          - Clinton is not the candidate of panacea. Don't you think the region can be stabilized?  rug   Apr-18-08 11:26 AM   #50 
                             - Not anytime soon... no.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:28 AM   #53 
                                - One region at a time. I'm hopeful.  rug   Apr-18-08 11:32 AM   #59 
                                - I'm hopeful, too.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:33 AM   #61 
                                - So what do you suggest that we DO in response to an attack on Israel?  dbaker41   Apr-18-08 01:22 PM   #104 
                                   - It's vastly different. (nt)  redqueen   Apr-18-08 01:28 PM   #105 
                                      - That's not what I asked.  dbaker41   Apr-18-08 02:43 PM   #119 
                                         - Take appropriate action.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 02:45 PM   #121 
                                            - Are you trying to be intentionally vague?  dbaker41   Apr-18-08 03:00 PM   #125 
                                            - Are you seriously telling me...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 03:03 PM   #127 
                                            - I'm pretty sure that what's happened here  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 03:10 PM   #130 
                                            - Perhaps...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 03:13 PM   #131 
                                            - This goes beyond Israel and touches in the issue of nuke proliferation  jackson_dem   Apr-19-08 04:32 AM   #135 
                                            - Iran is not going to launch a conventional attack against a small Gulf state.  Occam Bandage   Apr-19-08 11:05 AM   #144 
                                            - "we take out Tehran. That might be a bit of a deterrent." Tehran is a metropolis larger than LA  Leopolds Ghost   Apr-21-08 12:23 PM   #149 
                    - And I'm saying that a regional security pact in the Middle East  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 11:29 AM   #54 
                       - I'm glad you now realize her comment was about the ME, not a nuclear retaliation to protect Israel.  rug   Apr-18-08 11:31 AM   #56 
                          - Who said it was only about Israel?  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:32 AM   #58 
                          - Your headline for one.  rug   Apr-18-08 01:42 PM   #112 
                             - That's a snippet.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 01:44 PM   #115 
                             - The headline mentions Israel, but by no means limits the problem to Israel.  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 02:46 PM   #122 
                          - Now? I never claimed that was the problem (see #42). The problem is clearly  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 11:38 AM   #64 
                          - You know, rug, you're great at telling us we're not thinking, but you're not so good  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 11:48 AM   #66 
                             - Is there a thought here?  rug   Apr-18-08 12:22 PM   #86 
                                - Many. You've yet to reply substantively to any of them. Try replying to 54 or 64.  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 02:45 PM   #120 
  - NATO was created for what was then the most unstable region in the world. How'd that work out?  jackson_dem   Apr-19-08 04:29 AM   #134 
     - NATO wasn't implemented while those countries were being torn apart by a civil war. (nt)  redqueen   Apr-21-08 11:09 AM   #146 
  - So she's expanding the responsibility of American force projection to include, potentially,  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 11:17 AM   #36 
  - It's a global authoritarian police state and the U.S. is the police force.  TahitiNut   Apr-18-08 10:51 AM   #7 
  - She's just outed herself as being more of an imperalist than BUSH!  redqueen   Apr-18-08 10:54 AM   #10 
  - Agreed. It's her new club called the DLR ight. n/t  L0oniX   Apr-18-08 10:58 AM   #17 
  - She's taking us from M.A.D. (mutual assured destruction) to I.U.D. ...  TahitiNut   Apr-18-08 11:02 AM   #24 
  - Which threats does Clinton see that Obama doesn't?  jackson_dem   Apr-19-08 04:34 AM   #136 
  - Batshit insane is exactly right...  CK dexter   Apr-18-08 10:52 AM   #8 
  - Ah no... it's completely predictable that the M$M is ignoring it.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 10:56 AM   #12 
  - If she was ever going to get closer to the White House than the group tour, I'd be worried. nt  billyoc   Apr-18-08 10:57 AM   #13 
  - ...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 10:58 AM   #15 
  - LMFAO  L0oniX   Apr-18-08 11:00 AM   #20 
  - wouldn't she be invited back for "first lady" reunions?  merh   Apr-18-08 11:14 AM   #34 
  - Interesting Question -- What wold she have done two years ago?  Armstead   Apr-18-08 10:57 AM   #14 
  - Yup!  redqueen   Apr-18-08 10:59 AM   #19 
  - How many NIE's is she going to ignore?  SOS   Apr-18-08 10:58 AM   #16 
  - Ah it's all right... she'll just ask Condi for her notes.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:01 AM   #22 
  - exactly!  elmerdem   Apr-18-08 11:07 AM   #26 
  - yup she's right there with her hero  SoFlaJet   Apr-18-08 11:19 AM   #40 
  - I'm trying to find this Maddow on Olbermann video  crankychatter   Apr-18-08 11:07 AM   #27 
  - Here it is!  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:12 AM   #30 
     - edit and stick that up top.... great assessment IMHO  crankychatter   Apr-18-08 11:18 AM   #37 
     - there's a different Vid where it's just Rachel  crankychatter   Apr-18-08 11:26 AM   #51 
        - That must have been last night...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:37 AM   #63 
     - I get the feeling that you guys aren't reading too well...  hayu_lol   Apr-18-08 11:19 AM   #41 
        - My username is based on the theory...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:22 AM   #45 
           - did ignored call you a pinko?  crankychatter   Apr-18-08 11:25 AM   #49 
              - Hahahahahahaha... no...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:27 AM   #52 
  - And what would an attack BY Israel trigger?  kentuck   Apr-18-08 11:14 AM   #32 
  - Bupkis - the US doesn't even mind them having nukes.  Lilith Velkor   Apr-18-08 12:54 PM   #93 
  - US would attack the country Israel unilaterally invaded n/t  Leopolds Ghost   Apr-21-08 12:28 PM   #150 
  - ONE WORD:  DerekJ   Apr-18-08 11:21 AM   #42 
  - Are they this crazy?  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:25 AM   #48 
  - That one word rules a lot of Hillary's opinions.  donheld   Apr-18-08 01:07 PM   #99 
  - Specifics please Senator Clinton!  SOS   Apr-18-08 11:22 AM   #43 
  - Wouldn't it be nice if it were a non-whore of a host that night?  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:29 AM   #55 
  - Rachel Maddow was talking about this with Keith Oberman last night  Blue_Roses   Apr-18-08 11:24 AM   #47 
  - Neo-con = Neo-lib  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:32 AM   #57 
  - This is absolutely horrifying.  bunnies   Apr-18-08 11:32 AM   #60 
  - Well of the two candidates on our side... she's the more hawkish, that's for sure.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:35 AM   #62 
     - How about Obama advocating bombing Iran when basically only he and Lieberman were for it?  jackson_dem   Apr-19-08 04:37 AM   #138 
        - put the crack pipe down  LooseWilly   Apr-19-08 05:01 AM   #139 
           - Because I listened to him before he became the messiah  jackson_dem   Apr-19-08 06:10 AM   #140 
           - Because I listened to him before he became the messiah  jackson_dem   Apr-19-08 06:10 AM   #141 
              - I stand corrected...  LooseWilly   Apr-22-08 08:26 PM   #154 
  - This is fucking nuts. We should have cut Isreal off years ago. Let them fight their own battles.  Independent-Voter   Apr-18-08 11:43 AM   #65 
  - KICK KICK KICK  crispini   Apr-18-08 11:49 AM   #67 
  - ...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:58 AM   #77 
  - Obama's threat to attack Iran - from the transcript -kick your little hearts out over this  cornermouse   Apr-18-08 11:50 AM   #69 
  - And claiming a proportional response to an Iranian attack on Israel has been US policy for decades.  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 11:53 AM   #71 
  - Obama basically said the same thing Hillary did.  cornermouse   Apr-18-08 11:56 AM   #74 
     - That is only "basically" the same thing inasmuch as it involves weapons and Iran.  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 02:48 PM   #123 
  - "Take appropriate action" > "Trigger massive retaliation"  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:55 AM   #72 
     - See above.  cornermouse   Apr-18-08 11:57 AM   #75 
        - Sorry but no... far from it.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:57 AM   #76 
           - The threat that Obama made that we're all supposed to pretend is finesse instead.  cornermouse   Apr-18-08 12:03 PM   #79 
              - Again... his answers are measured.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 12:09 PM   #83 
                 - lol. Yeah right.  cornermouse   Apr-18-08 12:23 PM   #87 
                    - Your failure to understand is not Barack Obama's failing.  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 02:49 PM   #124 
  - but, but I thought she was  merh   Apr-18-08 11:51 AM   #70 
  - Hahahahaha...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 11:55 AM   #73 
     - .  merh   Apr-18-08 12:04 PM   #80 
  - We don't really discuss the role and importance of lobbyist around here  underpants   Apr-18-08 11:58 AM   #78 
  - Yup.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 12:12 PM   #84 
  - What was her "massive retailiation" to Israel's attack on Lebanon?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-18-08 12:05 PM   #81 
  - You mean, she was CIC back then?  Lilith Velkor   Apr-18-08 12:52 PM   #92 
     - No. She was a Senator, and one with a very high profile.  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 03:02 PM   #126 
  - You'd think a 60 year old would have a better memory of how WWI got needlessly started.  kwenu   Apr-18-08 12:06 PM   #82 
  - Maybe it's just reckless, poorly-thought-out "tough gal" pandering...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 12:18 PM   #85 
  - In Other News: Water Wet  Lilith Velkor   Apr-18-08 12:25 PM   #88 
  - It's sad that the defenses of this "plan" of hers are so pathetic.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 12:26 PM   #89 
     - Next thing y'all will expect her to speak out against the Drug War  Lilith Velkor   Apr-18-08 01:03 PM   #95 
        - What are you talking about?  redqueen   Apr-18-08 01:06 PM   #97 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-08 03:05 PM   #129 
        - What Drug War? Explain what you're talkimg about.  Leopolds Ghost   Apr-21-08 12:35 PM   #151 
  - Stephanopoulos repeated Bush Meme of Iran's Nuclear Ambitions  crankychatter   Apr-18-08 12:41 PM   #90 
  - Argh.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 12:47 PM   #91 
     - I want to be wrong  crankychatter   Apr-18-08 01:01 PM   #94 
        - Yeah... the PNAC agenda laid it all out for anyone to see, if they care to do so.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 01:07 PM   #98 
  - Baffling. When was this treaty obligation ever submitted to the Senate and ratified?  kenny blankenship   Apr-18-08 01:05 PM   #96 
  - Thanks for posting  bigbrother05   Apr-18-08 01:08 PM   #100 
  - Iran Iran Iran..no wonder the mediawhores want  zidzi   Apr-18-08 01:09 PM   #101 
  - You're a war monger, you are setting up the conditions for an attack on Iran.  2rth2pwr   Apr-18-08 01:13 PM   #102 
  - You're out of your mind. (nt)  redqueen   Apr-18-08 01:30 PM   #106 
     - You are setting it up so that no matter which country they make a move  2rth2pwr   Apr-18-08 01:32 PM   #108 
        - I'm a fucking office admin.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 01:33 PM   #109 
           - Oh, that helps clear up a lot of things. Thanks.  2rth2pwr   Apr-18-08 01:41 PM   #111 
           - Nice.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 01:44 PM   #114 
           - Such as what?  Occam Bandage   Apr-18-08 03:17 PM   #132 
           - Get back to work.  rug   Apr-18-08 01:43 PM   #113 
              - I'm working now.  redqueen   Apr-18-08 01:45 PM   #116 
  - It's probably not getting any coverage because...  Hardhead   Apr-18-08 01:21 PM   #103 
  - They're making plans to cause a major confrontation over MI and FL...  redqueen   Apr-18-08 01:32 PM   #107 
     - these two issues converge... everyone is so distracted with petty bullshit  crankychatter   Apr-18-08 02:31 PM   #118 
  - Didn't Obama Say A Iranian Nuclear Attack On Israel Would Be Met By American Force  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-18-08 01:36 PM   #110 
  - I dont hear you talk about turning Jews into glass...how come its OK to talk about Muslims to glass?  Leopolds Ghost   Apr-21-08 12:39 PM   #152 
  - It's this type of thinking that kept me from supporting Clinton in the primary  Lone_Star_Dem   Apr-18-08 02:00 PM   #117 
  - Yep, an attack on Israel would incite massive retaliation; how massive has yet to be...  bridgit   Apr-18-08 03:05 PM   #128 
  - In other words, Israel has been attacked by rockets numerous times, and all this bluff is horseshit  Leopolds Ghost   Apr-21-08 12:41 PM   #153 
  - Never show your Poker hand while you are sitting at the table. To me, this was the worst gaff of  IsItJustMe   Apr-19-08 11:09 AM   #145 
     - Oh it's been noticed.  redqueen   Apr-21-08 11:11 AM   #147 
 

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