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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:31 PM
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I am tired of the Clinton bashing, so lets clear some things up...
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Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 01:38 PM by Texas Hill Country
She is saying,

1. Republicans are A-holes that will attack the hell out of everyone and even make stuff up. All her skeletons are already out of the closet and have been gone over 10000000 times in the last 20 years. They are not gonna get anything new on her.

2. Obama is a virtual unknown to the majority of Americans. They may know the name, they may know his speech, but they don't know HIM. If things like a possible association with Rezco and the NAFTA flub are enough to mess him up, there is no way he is gonna be able to fend off a good "swift boating."

3. Obama doesnt have the experience as a back up to the character attacks. He will swift boated and when they start sending out propoganda about his muslim upbringing (much moreso than Hillary) and start talking about his ties to Rezco and subsequently Rezco's ties to the Middle East and possibly terrorist organizations (and the possibility is true), not to mention all of Michelle's huge gaffs which they will turn into her hating America and white people, the only thing he can do is talk about hope and change... not good enough.

4. You can quote all the polls you want about how he is ahead of McCain by a larger margin than Hillary, but as soon as the things in point #3 start kicking in, all of that will change. Those polls are an entirely false comparison because both McCain and Clinton have been "swift boated" and Obama has not. He has not faced the firing line like the other two. With Obama, we have honestly barely scratched the surface. If you deny that, you are in la-la land.

5. Hillary has not really gone negative. She is being honest, perhaps a bit brutally so, but honest. She has (or is percieved to have, which you CANNOT deny) more experience behind her by a looooong shot. He has a speech in 2002 and a nifty slogan (or that is all he is percieved to have, the Republicans will make sure of that.)

6. Obama is not a fighter the way Hillary is. As unfortunate as it may be, in order to beat the Republicans, you have to fight. If you don't think so, look back at Kerry who responded to the swiftboat campaign in much the same style that Obama probably will (it was very much in the same vein as Obama's campaign style). You have got to be a pitbull.

7. Republicans are not gonna vote for Obama over McCain, that is a fallacy. Also, McCain will take a good number or most of "Obama's" independents, not to mention a good number of the "Reagan" Democrats... especially in places like Michigan and Florida (whose votes he does not want counted... or at least that is or will be the perception, the Republicans will make sure of that.)

8. WE HAVE TO INCLUDE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA!!! The unfortunate perception is that she is fighting for Florida and Michigan to get seated so she can win, and sure, that may be part of it, but let's take a step back and face reality. The reality of the situation is that the reason everyone agreed to strip them of the delegates up front without much of a fight is that it was presumed that Hillary would win handily, primary season would fly by smoothly, and while it still mattered it wasnt worth the fight cause the end was already predetermined. Fastforward a year, and it has become apparent that this is not true and that the voters of MI and FL matter more than ever. If these states do not get a say in the primaries, saying that the impact on the status of the Democratic party in both states would be HUGE does not give the impact justice. It then becomes guaranteed that Republicans win Florida and could pose a serious threat in Michigan (which is full of Reagan Democrats).
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