Reply #13: Now that's funny friend

[MadHound]

Classifying me as the Sucker Auxilary etc etc. And your grasp of political history is feeble at best.

First off, it is pro-business policies like this that got America into this off-shoring, outsourcing mess to begin with. Or have you forgotten Clinton and his corporate controlled domestic policy? To entice corportations back onshore is going to require substantial corporate tax cuts, ones that will have to be made up by you and me. Otherwise the beancounters are going to do the math and decide to stay offshore. If you don't make it large enough for enticement purposes, then the outsourcing flood will simply continue, while corporations that are still onshore will reap the benefits. It is a lose-lose situation for the middle/lower class working person. We will have to make up the revenue lost.

This type of carrot and stick approach to corporate reform was tried one hundred and thirty years ago with the industrial robber barons of the day, and all that happened was that the corporations ate the carrot and broke the stick. What makes you think that anything different will happen this time around(I refer you to Kevin Phillips book Wealth and Democracy to see how this type of coddling didn't work before)

No, what is needed is true corporate reform, not in the spirit of Socialism(and I find it laughable that somebody on this board who asks for a return to the spirit of FDR is branded a Socialist, shows how far right the party has gone:eyes: ), but in the trust busting, corporate reform that was brought about by Teddy Roosevelt and FDR. Instead of offering rewards, apply penalties for basing your business offshore. Repeal of NAFTA and other "free" trade agreements that have stripped this country of millions of well paying jobs. Force the people in big business to be responsible corporate citizens instead of treating them as lords of the land who have to be approached on bended knee.

As far as the McGovern candidacy goes friend, do some reading, even if it is only Hunter Thompsons Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72. Even the most casual perusal of the history books will show you that it wasn't the electorate who wasn't behind the McGovern campaign, it was the Democratic party itself. They wanted their boy Muskie to be annointed, but when he broke down and fell flat, they refused to throw their weight behind the McGovern campaign, considering him too liberal. So much for Anybody but Nixon. And I'm not getting masochistic pleasure out of simply pointing out faults in the Dem nominee. I am trying to point out that by his policies and platform he is taking part in that mummers play of good cop/bad cop, bringing about the formation of the two party/same corporate master system of government. If you want to live in the uber corporate state, fine, but I will fight it tooth and nail.