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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 05:55 AM
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5. Without A Presidential Pardon - Yes
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shrub and Co leave office as private citizens. They are then subject to the law again and can expect to be open to the legal process.

Assuming shrub, prior to his leaving office in 2009, gives himself and or his minions, a presidential pardon, he is then beyond US law (criminal and civil) for his crimes (this applies to all recipients of pardons). He will be free to hide in Texas without fear of US law.

Do you think shrub and Co will want to leave themselves open to law suits?

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Any nation can bring charges against shrub, the ex-VP or ex-Secretary of Defense (and others) in the International Court of Justice at The Hague, Netherlands. The new president could then render the accused for trial as a war criminal. This seems to be the only option open to the people of USA to hold the shrub junta accountable.

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The idea of shrub pardoning himself seems to be giving many at DU trouble. Put _nothing_ beyond this group of criminals, I don't. Name one area that these miscreants have not tarnished with their actions!
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  -Impeachment ain't gonna happen but what about prosecution after they leave office? Kablooie  Nov-23-07 05:32 AM   #0 
  - Has the bar been set so low that no president will ever be impeached again?  thepurpose   Nov-23-07 05:39 AM   #1 
  - Only if the goat is an intern and the Prez is a Dem...  rfranklin   Nov-23-07 05:45 AM   #2 
     - I'm sorry. You are absolutely right ,the dem will only have to pet a goat and the  thepurpose   Nov-23-07 05:49 AM   #3 
        - Or even read a book on goats, period.  lamprey   Nov-23-07 05:52 AM   #4 
           - My Pet Goat is obviously given some protected status though  BR_Parkway   Nov-23-07 05:59 AM   #6 
              - Special Privilage: It's the smoking gun. n/t  lamprey   Nov-23-07 06:16 AM   #10 
  - Without A Presidential Pardon - Yes  emanymton   Nov-23-07 05:55 AM   #5 
  - The question is  rjones2818   Nov-23-07 06:14 AM   #9 
  - Ex-Leaders From The Old Yugoslavia Learned - No.  emanymton   Nov-23-07 06:17 AM   #11 
  - Bush pardons Cheney, Bush resigns on Jan. 19, 2009....  rfranklin   Nov-23-07 06:23 AM   #12 
  - This Could Really Work. And The People Will Sit At Home ...  emanymton   Nov-23-07 06:27 AM   #14 
  - But can he give pardons for actions that are not currently being prosecuted?  Kablooie   Nov-23-07 02:18 PM   #19 
  - that's what i'm hoping for and would be better than impeachment  JI7   Nov-23-07 06:01 AM   #7 
  - No impeachment and maybe they have no intent to leave office to face possible  indepat   Nov-23-07 06:08 AM   #8 
  - You Are Not Alone Thinking This. ...  emanymton   Nov-23-07 06:25 AM   #13 
  - Thank you and that's what I have been saying since January!  Gman   Nov-23-07 06:39 AM   #15 
  - Obama has already pledged in a SC speech not to use the DOJ to investigate past administration!  Didereaux   Nov-23-07 07:55 AM   #16 
  - If an impeachment attempt doesn't happen, do you really think they'll be prosecuted at all?  mtnsnake   Nov-23-07 08:02 AM   #17 
  - No, this is about sweeping things under the rug  mmonk   Nov-23-07 11:08 AM   #18 
 

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