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Thu Feb-12-04 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #92 |
| 97. When was the last time Republicans backed the wrong candidate? |
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Goldwater. They learned their lesson.
They knew NOBODY was going to be Clinton, thus Dole.
The Bush family runs the Republican party, which explained '92.
Other than that, they're much smarter than Dems when it comes to picking winners early and making no mistakes. Money begets money, I guess. But there's no excuse for us to get it so wrong (Mondale, Dukakis.)
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| -How's DU conventional wisdom scoring? Not so good, eh? |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:02 PM |
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not many candidates left |
Ficus |
Feb-11-04 12:06 PM |
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We could be wrong about the one we end up with, and then Bush wins. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:12 PM |
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DU is completey irrelevant to the real world. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Feb-11-04 12:12 PM |
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Ssssshhhhhh DU world is not the"real world"? put on your flamesuit. :-) |
oasis |
Feb-11-04 12:19 PM |
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I had a friend looking over my shoulder while I posted yesterday. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:19 PM |
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Referring to your post? |
joshcryer |
Feb-11-04 12:54 PM |
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Uh, actually, no. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:55 PM |
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Too bad. |
joshcryer |
Feb-11-04 01:01 PM |
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Well, let's see... |
WilliamPitt |
Feb-11-04 12:15 PM |
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And yet, you're still here... |
IrateCitizen |
Feb-11-04 12:16 PM |
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I learned that I am a glutton for punishment |
WilliamPitt |
Feb-11-04 12:17 PM |
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And longtime Democrats are not to be respected because we are |
jchild |
Feb-11-04 12:17 PM |
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DK is NOT a liberal |
liberalhistorian |
Feb-11-04 08:54 PM |
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Why are we so bad at picking winners? |
ShimokitaJer |
Feb-11-04 12:18 PM |
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It amazes me that people who care enough about politics to post here |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:21 PM |
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it's not about picking winners |
jmaier |
Feb-11-04 12:26 PM |
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It's about picking winners. At least, the Republicans know as much. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:49 PM |
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AP |
jmaier |
Feb-11-04 01:10 PM |
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MUST READ: If Kerry gets the nomination and loses, I could never |
AP |
Feb-11-04 01:17 PM |
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one correction |
salin |
Feb-11-04 03:07 PM |
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deleted |
Mairead |
Feb-11-04 02:15 PM |
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If You Want to Pick Winners, Go to Saratoga |
Crisco |
Feb-11-04 12:28 PM |
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We're picking candidates who can win -- who can beat Republicans. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:50 PM |
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Ayup |
redqueen |
Feb-11-04 12:21 PM |
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hee,hee |
tobius |
Feb-11-04 12:30 PM |
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LOL too true! |
rucky |
Feb-11-04 01:48 PM |
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The TV pundits have an incentive to be wrong: they want Bush to win and |
AP |
Feb-11-04 02:05 PM |
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Not only that, we eschew Establishment candidates. |
Why |
Feb-11-04 03:14 PM |
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I admit I'm a horrible predictor of winners. |
HopeLives |
Feb-11-04 12:19 PM |
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There is a logic to who wins that really shouldn't be beyond our grasp. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:22 PM |
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What might that be? |
DancingBear |
Feb-11-04 12:28 PM |
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Yes. But I always expect better of people than I should. n/t |
HopeLives |
Feb-11-04 12:44 PM |
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There's Nothing Conventional About DU Wisdom |
Crisco |
Feb-11-04 12:24 PM |
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You make an excellent point, Crisco. Without all the Campaign activists |
KoKo01 |
Feb-11-04 12:52 PM |
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Exactly, it's basically the 'spotlight' and 'hush hush' syndrom. |
joshcryer |
Feb-11-04 12:53 PM |
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Well, personally speaking |
Redneck Socialist |
Feb-11-04 12:27 PM |
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I dunno. I don't think *anyone* is any good at handicapping |
charlie |
Feb-11-04 12:38 PM |
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DU is more left left leaning than the real world |
YouMustBeKiddingMe |
Feb-11-04 12:45 PM |
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I used to think DU was more left leaning |
Uzybone |
Feb-11-04 12:51 PM |
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He is more centrist, but supported by more left leaning supporters |
YouMustBeKiddingMe |
Feb-11-04 01:09 PM |
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I've seen some pretty serious misunderstandings about class, race & gender |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:54 PM |
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Please say more about this AP |
tishaLA |
Feb-11-04 01:46 PM |
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The best example of race and gender problems were with Condi Rice |
AP |
Feb-11-04 02:04 PM |
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Thanks for the response |
tishaLA |
Feb-11-04 02:23 PM |
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Are you a grad student? |
AP |
Feb-11-04 02:24 PM |
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Yeah I am. |
tishaLA |
Feb-11-04 08:27 PM |
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what a great post |
hippiegranny |
Feb-11-04 04:57 PM |
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Hey, thanks! |
AP |
Feb-11-04 05:02 PM |
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no, thank you!!! |
hippiegranny |
Feb-11-04 05:08 PM |
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Spectacular post! |
DjTj |
Feb-12-04 12:45 AM |
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Well said! |
fujiyama |
Feb-12-04 01:45 AM |
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I think the underlying problem is ideas over people... |
DjTj |
Feb-12-04 01:55 AM |
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That's what I'm saying. |
AP |
Feb-12-04 02:04 AM |
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I've been a dud at picking the winner almost all of the time! |
Stuckinthebush |
Feb-11-04 12:53 PM |
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## Support Democratic Underground! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Feb-11-04 12:54 PM |
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You're not good at it either |
dionysus |
Feb-11-04 12:55 PM |
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I picked Edwards over a year ago. Look where he's at now. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:57 PM |
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NO, Edwards is a joke pretty boy who is still in becasue the media likes |
Tweedtheatre |
Feb-11-04 01:25 PM |
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He and Kucinich are the most anti-fascist, anti-corporatocracy candidates |
AP |
Feb-11-04 01:34 PM |
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i agree. Edwards WILL secure the needed moderate vote! |
SangamonTaylor |
Feb-11-04 02:18 PM |
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One doesn't make hundreds of millions as a trial lawyer by being |
Mairead |
Feb-11-04 02:23 PM |
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McBride didn't fight; he ran a lousy campaign. John Kerry is a fighter. |
flpoljunkie |
Feb-11-04 12:57 PM |
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I don't think Kerry can beat Bush in the south. I think Edwards can. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 12:59 PM |
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Edward's showing in Tennessee and Virginia belie that argument. |
flpoljunkie |
Feb-11-04 01:19 PM |
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We'll see what happens. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 01:36 PM |
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IMHO, DU is best at "Tinfoilhatting" which turns out to be "True!" |
KoKo01 |
Feb-11-04 12:58 PM |
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Okay, flame me...but no long term consistency. |
SeekerofTruth |
Feb-11-04 12:59 PM |
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JKF wasn't "pro tax cuts" -- he was pro-rational tax policy. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 01:06 PM |
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Good points.. It's the inconsistency that bothers me |
SeekerofTruth |
Feb-11-04 01:20 PM |
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To say the DU is kerry country |
MAlibdem |
Feb-11-04 01:00 PM |
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I see a lot of posters saying they're switching to Kerry, and only one so |
AP |
Feb-11-04 01:08 PM |
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well...not to toot my own horn |
Magic Rat |
Feb-11-04 01:19 PM |
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In the primary? Or the general election? |
AP |
Feb-11-04 01:20 PM |
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both |
Magic Rat |
Feb-11-04 01:27 PM |
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How much did you win? |
joshcryer |
Feb-11-04 01:29 PM |
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I will win $50 |
Magic Rat |
Feb-11-04 01:37 PM |
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We'll talk in November. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 01:35 PM |
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FWIW |
charlie |
Feb-11-04 03:46 PM |
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was DU unique in predicting dean? |
enki23 |
Feb-11-04 02:32 PM |
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DU'ers got on board very early, and Dean was winning all the "internal" |
AP |
Feb-11-04 03:00 PM |
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so, pretty much like the rest of the country then |
enki23 |
Feb-11-04 03:25 PM |
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No. Before the rest of the country. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 04:15 PM |
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Dean is still... |
fujiyama |
Feb-12-04 01:55 AM |
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McBride?? |
Malikshah |
Feb-11-04 02:39 PM |
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I actually liked Edwards............ |
XanthaS |
Feb-11-04 03:02 PM |
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Yesterday was the first time I pushed... |
AP |
Feb-11-04 03:04 PM |
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We come here for many different reasons-to preach, inform, vent, bond etc. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Feb-11-04 03:51 PM |
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I think DU finally gets it right with Kerry |
andym |
Feb-11-04 03:56 PM |
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That sounds like something that was said about any number of losers... |
AP |
Feb-11-04 04:16 PM |
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The difference is that Kerry's dominance represents actual results |
andym |
Feb-11-04 09:00 PM |
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Edwards Will Be Out After Wisconsin |
Justice |
Feb-11-04 04:42 PM |
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So long it's after a fair debate of Kerry and Edwards's ideas, I'll be... |
AP |
Feb-11-04 04:59 PM |
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Will you be satisfied if Kerry "borrows" Edwards ideas? |
andym |
Feb-11-04 09:08 PM |
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Like, "I know what it's like to have debt and to grow up working class" |
AP |
Feb-12-04 12:16 AM |
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Edwards received UNITE endorsement in Madison |
spooky3 |
Feb-11-04 08:33 PM |
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the point? |
mmonk |
Feb-11-04 04:43 PM |
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And the Republicans pick winners from the start. Why aren't we as smart? |
AP |
Feb-11-04 04:59 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-11-04 05:01 PM |
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I'm not talking about Ku supporters. I'm talking about McBride and Dean to |
AP |
Feb-11-04 05:04 PM |
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So |
mmonk |
Feb-11-04 05:07 PM |
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at this rate, maybe. |
AP |
Feb-11-04 05:08 PM |
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or perhaps |
salin |
Feb-11-04 08:45 PM |
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When was the last time Republicans backed the wrong candidate? |
AP |
Feb-12-04 12:14 AM |
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McBride fell on his face? |
KamaAina |
Feb-11-04 08:32 PM |
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Demos turned on Reno, and it started here |
AP |
Feb-12-04 12:15 AM |
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We are ideologues. |
Bleachers7 |
Feb-11-04 08:45 PM |
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