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xkenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:02 PM
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31. Hillary and they ALL knew at the time.
But when you lack moral courage.......
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  -The IWR vote was a vote on whether or not to go to war no matter what Hillary says! Listen to Byrd! Clarkie1  Feb-10-07 09:32 PM   #0 
  - This was a vote for congress to give Bush total power with war.  illinoisprogressive   Feb-10-07 09:48 PM   #1 
  - Yep - the Blank Check Resolution, as I (and many others) like to call it.  kath   Feb-10-07 11:29 PM   #12 
  - That is correct -and is Byrd's ONLY complaint - that giving the decision on war or no war  papau   Feb-10-07 11:29 PM   #13 
  - Exactly!..Byrd said at the time, the IWR resolution may have been unconstitutional.  EndElectoral   Feb-11-07 12:35 AM   #15 
  - Exactly. And how f'ing elitist and arrogant of ANY of them to try  Morgana LaFey   Feb-11-07 06:53 PM   #29 
  - Hey - It Was Our Kids, Not Theirs  MannyGoldstein   Feb-10-07 09:50 PM   #2 
  - Bet she would not have voted the same is Chelsea's life was on the line! nt  Clarkie1   Feb-10-07 09:51 PM   #3 
     - I'm Not Takin' That Bet!!! n/t  MannyGoldstein   Feb-10-07 09:53 PM   #4 
  - More succinctly it was a blank check.  AtomicKitten   Feb-10-07 09:57 PM   #5 
  - I don't think of it as a "mistake" anymore  WesDem   Feb-12-07 09:22 AM   #33 
  - Quick, forward your "discovery" to the NY Times before Sunday news deadline.  oasis   Feb-10-07 10:02 PM   #6 
  - One good thing coming from your pathetic threads...  SaveElmer   Feb-10-07 10:04 PM   #7 
  - I am glad that a light is being cast on the truth  AtomicKitten   Feb-10-07 10:17 PM   #10 
  - Another I hate Hillary thread in less than two hours, Wow.  A Simple Game   Feb-10-07 10:04 PM   #8 
  - I agree; Important and Valid.  snot   Feb-10-07 10:09 PM   #9 
  - I agree completely.  invictus   Feb-12-07 02:00 PM   #41 
  - Totally agree, Clarkie1  Carolina   Feb-10-07 10:48 PM   #11 
  - If you believed in weapons inspections, you believed in the IWR. n/t  LoZoccolo   Feb-10-07 11:47 PM   #14 
  - Maybe so....but not the Blank check one!  FrenchieCat   Feb-11-07 01:31 AM   #17 
  - What exactly was wrong with Biden/Lugar?  Hippo_Tron   Feb-11-07 03:56 AM   #19 
  - Hillary hypnotized Bush into kicking Hans Blix and the inspectors out. (nt)  oasis   Feb-11-07 10:55 AM   #22 
  - "you're either with us or against us"...no other options!!!!!  bvar22   Feb-11-07 05:27 PM   #27 
  - Uh, no.  LoZoccolo   Feb-11-07 06:23 PM   #28 
  - Uh, No.  bvar22   Feb-11-07 10:40 PM   #30 
  - that is their motto, and their total delusional thinking.  alyce douglas   Feb-12-07 02:31 PM   #45 
  - Factually incorrect  SOS   Feb-12-07 09:45 AM   #34 
  - No, it's just that one of the weapons inspectors that came out against the war...  LoZoccolo   Feb-12-07 10:56 AM   #35 
     - Again  SOS   Feb-12-07 11:03 AM   #36 
        - Right, there isn't any /requirement/.  LoZoccolo   Feb-12-07 11:09 AM   #37 
           - The Levin amendment  SOS   Feb-12-07 12:00 PM   #38 
  - And if you had knowledge that Powell lied to the U.N., you had time to demand a new vote/debate.  Dr Fate   Feb-12-07 02:23 PM   #44 
     - This really galls me!  gulfcoastliberal   Feb-12-07 08:18 PM   #53 
  - It was the resolution CLARK recommended  sandnsea   Feb-11-07 01:29 AM   #16 
  - What was a resolution that Clark recommended?  FrenchieCat   Feb-11-07 01:39 AM   #18 
     - Gee, maybe the senate dems should've used their power to push through Levin and Biden-Lugar  Hippo_Tron   Feb-11-07 04:02 AM   #20 
  - Naked "slash and burn" on Democratic candidates .....  Trajan   Feb-11-07 04:02 AM   #21 
  - Robert Byrd made it exceptionally clear  Pithy Cherub   Feb-11-07 12:09 PM   #23 
  - And a secret war with Iran has already begun...  EVDebs   Feb-11-07 12:39 PM   #24 
  - What did these Democrats know that Hillary did not know?  bvar22   Feb-11-07 01:17 PM   #25 
  - Hillary and they ALL knew at the time.  xkenx   Feb-11-07 11:02 PM   #31 
  - Simple, it was the worst vote in Congress in decades. No problem forgiving the offenders,  Tom Joad   Feb-11-07 01:43 PM   #26 
  - Right! Imagine HRC vs. Hagel in '08. Who was more against the war, the decorated Viet Nam vet, or  xkenx   Feb-12-07 08:47 AM   #32 
     - Hagel voted "yes" on the IWR also....  paulk   Feb-12-07 12:27 PM   #40 
        - I know, but he turned on Bush long ago re Iraq, very publicly.  xkenx   Feb-12-07 04:15 PM   #46 
           - how did he turn on Bush? Sure, he's said a few things  paulk   Feb-12-07 04:33 PM   #48 
              - The point is voter perception.  xkenx   Feb-12-07 08:23 PM   #54 
                 - that's nonsense.  paulk   Feb-13-07 12:16 PM   #55 
                    - I was talking about voter psychology, which IS important.  xkenx   Feb-13-07 05:01 PM   #56 
  - That covers also the "oops, I sponso...voted for it, my bad" Edwards then  The Count   Feb-12-07 12:21 PM   #39 
  - True- but Edwards is at least smart enough to admit it was a mistake.  Dr Fate   Feb-12-07 02:07 PM   #42 
  - Everyone in the USA except DLCers knows that "yes" means "yes."  Dr Fate   Feb-12-07 02:15 PM   #43 
  - Not entirely fair to cast it all on the DLC  Hippo_Tron   Feb-12-07 06:05 PM   #50 
     - I should have said "most conservative Democrats" then.  Dr Fate   Feb-12-07 07:46 PM   #51 
  - Alternately, just READ THE RESOLUTION'S TITLE.  Zhade   Feb-12-07 04:25 PM   #47 
  - Nothing. Nothing vague about the words "yay" or "nay" either. n/t  Dr Fate   Feb-12-07 07:47 PM   #52 
  - Since it's too late for a rec, I'll kick it instead  Hardhead   Feb-12-07 05:59 PM   #49 
 

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