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malikstein Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #21
32. It's not a procedural question.
Between the two candidate Hoyer and Murtha, who is more likely to heed the voters load cry of "Enough!" concerning Iraq.

May I submit in evidence Robert Sheer's commentary on the subject?
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  -Wait, Murtha opposes abortion rights? Comicstripper  Nov-15-06 01:39 AM   #0 
  - THAT does not please me. And to have two such people in leadership  saracat   Nov-15-06 01:41 AM   #1 
  - It seems weird, right?  Comicstripper   Nov-15-06 01:43 AM   #2 
     - Not anymore, unfortunately  question everything   Nov-15-06 01:02 PM   #55 
  - you can be against something and still not legislate against it... nt  obxhead   Nov-15-06 01:45 AM   #3 
  - True, but...  Comicstripper   Nov-15-06 01:47 AM   #4 
  - Except that he has legislated against it. That's what his voting record shows. nt  jobycom   Nov-15-06 01:50 AM   #6 
     - ???? I did not know... got a link? I would be very interested!  obxhead   Nov-15-06 01:51 AM   #7 
        - For starters  jobycom   Nov-15-06 01:59 AM   #11 
           - Oh, this is SO not good.  Le Taz Hot   Nov-15-06 09:11 AM   #31 
           - Thank you for the detailed information  question everything   Nov-15-06 01:05 PM   #56 
           - nice list, but...  zreosumgame   Nov-15-06 02:17 PM   #62 
              - Some were major legislation, not sure about all of them.  jobycom   Nov-15-06 03:26 PM   #70 
  - You go to Congress with the Democratic Party you have  Kagemusha   Nov-15-06 01:48 AM   #5 
  - Also, he gave credibility to withdrawal from Iraq  question everything   Nov-16-06 01:42 AM   #80 
  - He will do as Pelosi says  Erika   Nov-15-06 01:51 AM   #8 
  - He's not an activist on his personal view, just like Kucinich and Bonior were never  blm   Nov-15-06 10:07 AM   #41 
     - So his NARAL rating means what?  Lurking Dem   Nov-15-06 10:09 AM   #42 
        - Just like Bonior and Kucinich before him, it's pursuing the legislation that makes  blm   Nov-15-06 10:19 AM   #44 
           - Ummmmm  rinsd   Nov-15-06 12:10 PM   #49 
  - In that case  ninkasi   Nov-15-06 01:55 AM   #9 
  - to add to your idea - the group with the 2nd highest unplanned pregnancies is women in their 40's  Iris   Nov-15-06 12:38 PM   #52 
  - I don't mean to be rude, but it is a simple matter to find out how your reps vote on the issues  MADem   Nov-15-06 01:55 AM   #10 
  - You wouldn't happen to have a link for that test  Mythsaje   Nov-15-06 02:05 AM   #12 
  - Here are two tests, a shortie and a long one  MADem   Nov-15-06 03:08 AM   #13 
     - Thanks! n/t  Mythsaje   Nov-15-06 03:49 AM   #17 
     - I used to be very close to the Dalai Lama  Mythsaje   Nov-15-06 04:01 AM   #18 
        - Yep, I'm still in Dalai territory, myself. NT  MADem   Nov-15-06 04:55 AM   #23 
  - Many of the people here, myself included, place a greater emphasis on the war than other issues  Hippo_Tron   Nov-15-06 03:42 AM   #15 
  - Well, here's Hoyer on that issue most recently--  MADem   Nov-15-06 04:08 AM   #19 
  - Didn't say he's a warmonger  Hippo_Tron   Nov-15-06 04:15 AM   #20 
     - I dunno. Nancy being the first woman Speaker, for Steny to try to backstab her  MADem   Nov-15-06 04:52 AM   #22 
        - I'm not saying that Hoyer will try to become Speaker immediately  Hippo_Tron   Nov-15-06 05:07 AM   #24 
           - Yeah, but that would actually reflect just as poorly on him!  MADem   Nov-15-06 05:20 AM   #25 
  - Many women don't like the idea of being forced to breed cogs for the oil war machine  Iris   Nov-15-06 12:39 PM   #53 
  - Well, I think that thousands of women dying from botched  saracat   Nov-15-06 03:21 PM   #68 
  - Great links  wicket   Nov-15-06 11:06 AM   #48 
     - Anytime. I find them helpful when I see that broad brush come out!!!  MADem   Nov-15-06 01:09 PM   #58 
        - Let me just say....  wicket   Nov-15-06 02:05 PM   #61 
  - Yep, he's a conservative Dem that several at DU fell in love with  LittleClarkie   Nov-15-06 03:35 AM   #14 
  - Be careful where you are going.  malikstein   Nov-15-06 03:42 AM   #16 
  - No there isn't. You don't have the sequence straight at all. Hoyer was the HEIR to that job.  MADem   Nov-15-06 04:24 AM   #21 
  - Well maybe "tradition" like that is outdated!  Sturmrabe   Nov-15-06 09:10 AM   #30 
  - having served in the House leadership  paulk   Nov-15-06 12:24 PM   #50 
  - It's helpful to have done that work before...there's no learning curve.  MADem   Nov-15-06 01:07 PM   #57 
  - It's not a procedural question.  malikstein   Nov-15-06 09:12 AM   #32 
     - Well, actually, it is. It's procedural, and it is tribal. And it is quid pro quo.  MADem   Nov-15-06 12:59 PM   #54 
  - DLC shill Franken?  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Nov-15-06 06:41 AM   #27 
  - Well, no,  malikstein   Nov-15-06 09:09 AM   #29 
     - he said he was a DLC type at a book signing of his I went to  jonnyblitz   Nov-15-06 10:04 AM   #39 
  - I've no doubt that there is that effort.  Le Taz Hot   Nov-15-06 09:16 AM   #33 
  - Amazing everyone here is just figuring this out now  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Nov-15-06 06:39 AM   #26 
  - Yup, he is a conservative Democrat  Zodiak Ironfist   Nov-15-06 09:22 AM   #36 
  - is Steny Hoyer a "DLC Democrat"  paulk   Nov-15-06 12:37 PM   #51 
     - I must admit, I am only repeating the meme  Zodiak Ironfist   Nov-15-06 02:35 PM   #63 
     - Well ,he is promoted by the DLC for majority leader  Zodiak Ironfist   Nov-15-06 02:57 PM   #67 
        - yeah, I found that stuff, too  paulk   Nov-15-06 03:23 PM   #69 
        - Barney FRANK supports Hoyer, as do many others. The conservative in this contest is Murtha, not  MADem   Nov-15-06 10:41 PM   #75 
  - The only thing is, he WON'T be "in charge of the agenda" even if he gets the gig  MADem   Nov-15-06 01:14 PM   #60 
  - Give JacksSmirkingRevenge a cookie !!!  hippiechick   Nov-15-06 02:46 PM   #65 
  - He is a small vote against AR, he is a MAJOR jote against the war  wisteria   Nov-15-06 08:48 AM   #28 
  - "You're" willing to trade off MY  Le Taz Hot   Nov-15-06 09:19 AM   #34 
  - a-yup - I posted that enough times  LynneSin   Nov-15-06 09:21 AM   #35 
  - This is news?  Husb2Sparkly   Nov-15-06 09:57 AM   #37 
  - 'opposing abortion' does not necessarily mean 'opposing abortion rights'  Richardo   Nov-15-06 10:00 AM   #38 
  - But he has voted thusly.  Lurking Dem   Nov-15-06 10:06 AM   #40 
     - Yeah, I missed that post.  Richardo   Nov-15-06 10:21 AM   #45 
  - I have some other shocking news for you, Comicstripper  slackmaster   Nov-15-06 10:14 AM   #43 
  - if Murtha is anti abortion then I'm anti Murtha and pissed at Pelosi  donsu   Nov-15-06 10:33 AM   #46 
  - Have got to say, I think I prefer Steny. N/T  olafvikingr   Nov-15-06 11:02 AM   #47 
  - You take wikipedia at it's word?  zreosumgame   Nov-15-06 01:13 PM   #59 
  - check his voting record, then ...  hippiechick   Nov-15-06 02:47 PM   #66 
  - Very true  bluedogyellowdog   Nov-16-06 12:22 AM   #77 
     - Hey! "thus always to tyrants"  upi402   Nov-16-06 12:30 AM   #78 
  - Yes indeed, fans ...  hippiechick   Nov-15-06 02:45 PM   #64 
  - I just love it when old men tell us what we can do with our bodies.  Oregonian   Nov-15-06 03:59 PM   #71 
  - He's not exactly a friend...  Sapphocrat   Nov-15-06 04:34 PM   #72 
  - That's an interesting point  Lurking Dem   Nov-15-06 05:34 PM   #73 
  - I really wish we could get a third choice for majority leader  MN Against Bush   Nov-15-06 05:53 PM   #74 
  - Can't please all the purists all the time!  JamesJoyce   Nov-15-06 11:14 PM   #76 
  - It's not about Murtha for Pelosi  DCal   Nov-16-06 12:30 AM   #79 
  - jeezum crow, it is simple, Murtha is a bigoted old man. nt.  k_jerome   Nov-16-06 01:45 AM   #81 

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