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Thu Feb-05-04 08:30 AM
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| -I am disappointed. John Kerry is not my friend :( |
Brian_Expat |
Feb-05-04 03:03 AM |
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Don't worry, when the polls show gay people are mad |
Mobius |
Feb-05-04 03:04 AM |
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Gay activist leaders are WITH Kerry on this it seems: |
blm |
Feb-05-04 11:03 AM |
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"Gay leaders" |
Brian_Expat |
Feb-05-04 12:17 PM |
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No one elected these gay "leaders" |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 12:20 PM |
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Funny when I brought up this precise same point |
dsc |
Feb-05-04 03:17 PM |
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"Kerry's attempted straddle of the issue" John Kerry, the great STRADDLER |
mzmolly |
Feb-05-04 04:47 PM |
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like ive been sayin kerry isnt the real deal but the Raw Deal |
corporatewhore |
Feb-05-04 03:07 AM |
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I totally hear what you are saying. |
Mobius |
Feb-05-04 03:09 AM |
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He'll say anything |
creativelcro |
Feb-05-04 08:30 AM |
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He's wrong to oppose gay marriage |
lcordero |
Feb-05-04 03:08 AM |
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A Kerry gaffe in the making???? |
Mobius |
Feb-05-04 03:10 AM |
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I Agree! |
Jawja |
Feb-05-04 06:38 AM |
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Are homosexual couples more serious about their relationships? |
LeahMira |
Feb-05-04 10:34 AM |
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dude, you are OUT THERE! |
MaddogTerp |
Feb-05-04 10:31 AM |
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I'm afraid we all will have to get used to it! |
AnnitaR |
Feb-05-04 03:12 AM |
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Exactly, of all the Dems, he was only ahead of Joe |
LosinIt |
Feb-05-04 03:53 AM |
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BUT, he is also not your enemy. |
benburch |
Feb-05-04 03:13 AM |
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I disagree. Its huge if in nothing but symbolism. He agrees that there is |
roguevalley |
Feb-05-04 04:12 AM |
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If I'm correct |
dusty64 |
Feb-05-04 07:19 AM |
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Sorry, but that's not true |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 12:10 PM |
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Hmmmm.How about some of those so-called "leaders" |
revcarol |
Feb-05-04 03:29 PM |
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It's all back scratching, it seems. |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 04:36 PM |
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Isn't it hypocritical of you to bash him when you're a Dean-supporter? |
Bombtrack |
Feb-05-04 03:15 AM |
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Dean makes it clear that civil unions are synonymous with... |
joshcryer |
Feb-05-04 03:53 AM |
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Isn't it hypocritical of you to bash him when you're a Dean-supporter? |
Bombtrack |
Feb-05-04 03:16 AM |
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civil unions can lose the election |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 03:22 AM |
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would you say the same thing if the issue was marriage between a black and |
corporatewhore |
Feb-05-04 03:25 AM |
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No, it really isn't |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 03:33 AM |
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I beg to differ |
corporatewhore |
Feb-05-04 03:41 AM |
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It's not the same |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 03:54 AM |
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"its own cultural foundation" CAN KISS MY QUEER BROWN ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
corporatewhore |
Feb-05-04 03:56 AM |
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Other people have rights too |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 09:47 AM |
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I'm not gay |
OhioStateProgressive |
Feb-05-04 10:49 AM |
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Other people disagree |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 10:54 AM |
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the court ruled civil unions are NOT equal |
OhioStateProgressive |
Feb-05-04 11:04 AM |
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Aaah, |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 11:50 AM |
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other peoples opinions |
OhioStateProgressive |
Feb-05-04 12:09 PM |
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38 states |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 04:31 PM |
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Backing Civil Unions is bigotry |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 12:12 PM |
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Have nothing then |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 12:15 PM |
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the same attitude is why it took america 100 years to end slavery |
OhioStateProgressive |
Feb-05-04 12:17 PM |
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So what? So what if it is between men and women? Who cares? Its about |
roguevalley |
Feb-05-04 04:14 AM |
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Ditto |
corporatewhore |
Feb-05-04 05:00 AM |
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Civil Unions |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 09:34 AM |
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spoken as one who gets to marry who you want |
dsc |
Feb-05-04 05:56 AM |
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It sounds like the typical hetero condescension |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 06:18 AM |
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Spoken as one |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 09:37 AM |
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You cannot have justice with civil unions |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 12:19 PM |
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It's not the same |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 04:33 PM |
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You must have missed this post. |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 04:37 PM |
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Why should Christians tell gay Jews that they cannot marry? |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 12:24 PM |
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nice of you to tellus how we should be progressing |
corporatewhore |
Feb-05-04 01:01 PM |
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Reality is reality |
sandnsea |
Feb-05-04 04:35 PM |
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So could not voting for the war |
quaker bill |
Feb-05-04 03:55 AM |
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THANK YOU!!!! |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 12:21 PM |
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Who is SJC and why did you put his words in Kerry's mouth? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Feb-05-04 03:22 AM |
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Why don't you try reading the article? |
parasim |
Feb-05-04 03:34 AM |
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The link wouldn't work for me, it timed out. If you are done insulting me |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Feb-05-04 03:44 AM |
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Supreme Judicial Court (of MA) |
maddezmom |
Feb-05-04 04:02 AM |
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I apologize for insulting you... |
parasim |
Feb-05-04 12:34 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-05-04 03:28 AM |
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You are wasting your time. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Feb-05-04 03:46 AM |
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Thank You |
emanymton |
Feb-05-04 04:04 AM |
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That thoughtful comment got deleted for some odd reason |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 12:22 PM |
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Gay marriage is a good future goal, Gays should support Kerry |
Chicago Democrat |
Feb-05-04 04:10 AM |
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Gays should boycott the election if Kerry is the nominee! |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 05:02 AM |
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Welcome to DU! |
aldian159 |
Feb-05-04 05:22 AM |
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Why don't we call for a total ban on abortions? |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 05:37 AM |
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oh totally if i dont need my civil rights because i am queer i certainly |
corporatewhore |
Feb-05-04 05:53 AM |
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"We should all applaud the wisdom of the court..." |
HFishbine |
Feb-05-04 06:38 AM |
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Kerry doesn't believe in equality before the law |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 04:35 AM |
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This is part of my problem with Kerry |
dsc |
Feb-05-04 05:51 AM |
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Dean has also explicitly said that civil unions afford all the same... |
joshcryer |
Feb-05-04 06:19 AM |
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The Dean distinction |
HFishbine |
Feb-05-04 06:43 AM |
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He honors marriage |
dogman |
Feb-05-04 06:01 AM |
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I cant believe people are defending Kerry on this |
corporatewhore |
Feb-05-04 06:14 AM |
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You'll notice |
HFishbine |
Feb-05-04 06:45 AM |
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Typical middle road politician |
CWebster |
Feb-05-04 06:22 AM |
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This siphoning off of energy is the precise function of the Dem Party... |
RichM |
Feb-05-04 09:21 AM |
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Typical Kerry Pandering |
RetroLounge |
Feb-05-04 06:25 AM |
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Compare Kerry to the Socialist position on GLBT rights |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 06:32 AM |
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If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao... |
Chicago Democrat |
Feb-05-04 03:18 PM |
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"Politics is about compromise" |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 03:31 PM |
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Dems Lost the South since 1964, Wanna loose the whole nation? |
Chicago Democrat |
Feb-05-04 04:15 PM |
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Clark agrees with the Mass court decision - consistent position: |
robbedvoter |
Feb-05-04 06:39 AM |
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Wes Clark is a true liberal unlike that Kerry "Phoney Deal" |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 06:48 AM |
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Oh for crying out loud, Kerry has a lengthy history of liberal votes |
LuminousX |
Feb-05-04 09:04 AM |
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Wes Clark Has Consistently Surprised Me, Too. |
David Zephyr |
Feb-05-04 10:48 AM |
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You quoted Clark's weaker answer |
HFishbine |
Feb-05-04 06:50 AM |
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But it's not a religious matter. Federal benefits from marriage |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 12:31 PM |
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That's where the federal government comes in |
HFishbine |
Feb-05-04 03:28 PM |
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Edited |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 04:40 PM |
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Thanks, Robbedvoter For Posting This. |
David Zephyr |
Feb-05-04 10:45 AM |
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This is an easy out |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 12:28 PM |
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Kerry has the same stance as Dean & Edwards |
Killarney |
Feb-05-04 07:13 AM |
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Maybe we're just dumb. |
HFishbine |
Feb-05-04 07:18 AM |
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I am saying Kucinich is better |
corporatewhore |
Feb-05-04 07:22 AM |
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Dean was in front on this issue |
dansolo |
Feb-05-04 08:30 AM |
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Wrong. Noone has stepped forward more on gay issues than Kerry. |
blm |
Feb-05-04 08:43 AM |
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Dean has never said he's AGAINST gay marriage |
soleft |
Feb-05-04 09:17 AM |
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Dean's position is not "against" gay marriage... |
Caliphoto |
Feb-05-04 10:52 AM |
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It figures. |
bitchkitty |
Feb-05-04 08:30 AM |
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Kerry has never been for gay marriage mainly because of the religio/civil |
blm |
Feb-05-04 08:40 AM |
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he might be your friend if you belonged to AIG |
Snivi Yllom |
Feb-05-04 08:49 AM |
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Grrrrrr |
bicentennial_baby |
Feb-05-04 09:05 AM |
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I belong to AIG and he's not my friend |
soleft |
Feb-05-04 09:22 AM |
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All he had to say was.... |
GloriaSmith |
Feb-05-04 09:18 AM |
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This is the first GOOD thing I've heard about Kerry in a while. |
Merlin |
Feb-05-04 09:18 AM |
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A "trap?!?" |
Brian_Expat |
Feb-05-04 11:47 AM |
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lots of people throwing stones in glass houses here |
Ficus |
Feb-05-04 09:29 AM |
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Well said |
Uzybone |
Feb-05-04 01:16 PM |
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No they do not |
dsc |
Feb-05-04 03:26 PM |
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One step at a time, my friend. First step: Get rid of Bush* |
DemLikr |
Feb-05-04 09:52 AM |
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That's how we got into this mess in the first place!!! |
Paulie |
Feb-05-04 10:01 AM |
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Amen! n/t |
Brian_Expat |
Feb-05-04 12:20 PM |
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your all or nothing attitude will work well as part of Rove's re-select |
DemLikr |
Feb-05-04 01:15 PM |
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Brian, recommend that you read this from clear-eyed gay, lesbian leaders |
flpoljunkie |
Feb-05-04 10:23 AM |
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I don't agree with their premise |
Brian_Expat |
Feb-05-04 11:49 AM |
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Kerry and Clarky are both problematic in this |
MaddogTerp |
Feb-05-04 10:39 AM |
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His record would contradict you but that's OK, believe what you want |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Feb-05-04 10:56 AM |
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That's all well and good BUT |
Brian_Expat |
Feb-05-04 11:50 AM |
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This is another fine mess you have got us in |
nolabels |
Feb-05-04 11:42 AM |
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Do you want to win the GE or not? Kerry's position is the one of most |
TexasSissy |
Feb-05-04 11:50 AM |
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I don't "win" if I'm not equal |
Brian_Expat |
Feb-05-04 11:56 AM |
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ABB is a false choice |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 12:33 PM |
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your political "purity" is lovely and admirable and all that... |
DemLikr |
Feb-05-04 01:18 PM |
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Edwards and Dean also agree w/Kerry's position. Clark is the most |
TexasSissy |
Feb-05-04 11:52 AM |
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I have a problem with how it was expressed |
Brian_Expat |
Feb-05-04 11:59 AM |
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No, Kucinich is the most liberal on this subject, |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 12:35 PM |
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Why isn't he fighting back like a leader should, you ask? |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 11:59 AM |
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My ancient rule is simple |
Brian_Expat |
Feb-05-04 12:02 PM |
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I humbly ask |
redqueen |
Feb-05-04 12:36 PM |
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So it has to be MARRIAGE RIGHT NOW, or nothing else will do? |
DemLikr |
Feb-05-04 01:22 PM |
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Kerry's a lawyer. He knows exactly what's possible |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Feb-05-04 04:25 PM |
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Glad to know from an expert on gay life |
dsc |
Feb-05-04 04:39 PM |
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My guess |
Forkboy |
Feb-05-04 12:13 PM |
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Another example of Kerry's political cowardliness! |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-04 12:35 PM |
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It worked for him with the war. |
rucky |
Feb-05-04 12:35 PM |
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So, I guess the 35% of gays who vote republican... |
mitchum |
Feb-05-04 04:15 PM |
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It was 25% |
dsc |
Feb-05-04 04:22 PM |
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Kerry is a politician... |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-05-04 04:38 PM |
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