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70. So, what is Feingold's excuse voting for Roberts? for Ascroft? ...
Does he want to be seen as a spineless * apologist and boot licker.

I don't think so, but this proves how your argument is hollow.

What is Barbara Boxer's argument for voting for a totally empty lobbying bill?

...

You can ask this question for each and every act of each and every senators.

If it makes you feel better, yell. I prefer to focus on things that will bring something to us.
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  -Cowering Dems - Only 3 Senators' names are on Feingold's resolution. paineinthearse  Mar-29-06 03:54 PM   #0 
  - We know what to do! Time to make some more calls, DUers!  fooj   Mar-29-06 03:56 PM   #1 
  - WRONG - demanding censure vote now is SIDING with GOPs.  blm   Mar-29-06 04:14 PM   #10 
     - I don't think everyone is demanding  guidod   Mar-29-06 05:53 PM   #33 
     - Caving in to demand for quickvote by GOPs and bypassing investigation by  blm   Mar-29-06 06:04 PM   #37 
     - so it's been moved to committee... that happend already..  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 06:07 PM   #39 
        - Dems wanting to stop committee and investigation and side with GOPs  blm   Mar-29-06 06:12 PM   #42 
           - I think that was to show who was willing to Censure Clinton but is AWOL on  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 06:35 PM   #48 
           - Willing to censure Clinton INSTEAD OF impeaching him. If you AREN'T on  blm   Mar-29-06 06:41 PM   #50 
           - If we give up on censure, will we still even be opposing the GOP at all?  Ken Burch   Mar-30-06 02:42 PM   #114 
           - exatly so..  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 02:51 PM   #118 
           - Who is giving up on censure? The committee investigation is FOR censure.  blm   Mar-30-06 03:19 PM   #123 
              - Never mind, I guess I don't understand what those who oppose Feingold  Ken Burch   Mar-30-06 07:37 PM   #131 
                 - Calling for left blogs to stop harrassing senators supporting Feingold's  blm   Mar-31-06 08:45 AM   #134 
           - when does siding with censure = quick vote?  dionysus   Mar-30-06 10:29 PM   #132 
              - READ and understand - we are FOR CENSURE and the moment Feingold  blm   Mar-31-06 09:21 AM   #135 
     - LOL..  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 06:06 PM   #38 
        - I understand that the word trength  guidod   Mar-29-06 06:17 PM   #45 
     - I don't think everyone is demanding  guidod   Mar-29-06 05:53 PM   #34 
     - Woops! Hit the button twice, sorry  guidod   Mar-29-06 05:55 PM   #35 
     - Drinkin Arlen Specter/Joe Biden Cool aid - It's called another Cover Up  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 06:04 PM   #36 
        - Either you side w/Feingold and furthering censure debate or side w/GOP  blm   Mar-29-06 06:09 PM   #40 
           - My apologies.. i'm frustrated.  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 06:38 PM   #49 
              - WRONG - Hearings are set for Friday and John Dean and Bruce Fein are  blm   Mar-29-06 06:49 PM   #53 
                 - I stand Corrected! Good More Testimony!  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 07:05 PM   #57 
  - Why are you spreading that BOGUS list of Dems who wanted censure INSTEAD  blm   Mar-29-06 04:00 PM   #2 
  - I wholeheartedly agree it is much better strategy.  AtomicKitten   Mar-29-06 04:04 PM   #4 
  - Feinstein tried to bring up censure resolution again right after acquittal  flpoljunkie   Mar-29-06 04:06 PM   #6 
     - Okay, I'm convinced. Feingold is an ass.  MH1   Mar-29-06 05:08 PM   #24 
        - I Hope you mean FeinSTEIN (a DINO), NOT FeinGOLD...  BlueCaliDem04   Mar-30-06 02:26 AM   #66 
           - Feingold WAS a senator in the Clinton years  Mass   Mar-30-06 07:10 AM   #68 
           - Haven't been into politics until *after* the 2000 Debacle. But...  BlueCaliDem04   Mar-31-06 02:05 AM   #133 
           - I meant FeinGOLD. Please read my post.  MH1   Mar-30-06 08:43 AM   #78 
              - Feingold did NOT support the Clinton censure.  incapsulated   Apr-01-06 01:39 AM   #166 
  - Disappointed in Levin, Stabenow from Michigan  faygokid   Mar-29-06 04:01 PM   #3 
  - Their constituency is not a monolith composed of DUers and like-minded.  MH1   Mar-29-06 05:14 PM   #28 
     - I think it's the right thing to do.  faygokid   Mar-29-06 05:19 PM   #29 
     - We're all for censure - and FOR Feingold moving it into committee  blm   Mar-29-06 05:30 PM   #30 
     - oops... self delete duplicate  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 06:11 PM   #41 
     - Wrong - Feingold had said it was set for Friday.  blm   Mar-29-06 06:13 PM   #44 
     - BLM it was moved to committee two weeks ago, the moment Feingold  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 06:12 PM   #43 
     - You may be right (or not), but in any case it is beside my point.  MH1   Mar-29-06 05:33 PM   #31 
        - Censure Could have Meaningful Consequence, but Not with These Dems  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 06:22 PM   #46 
           - I'm FOR censure but know it has no meaningful consequence and  blm   Mar-29-06 06:33 PM   #47 
              - do you actually believe impeachment investigations and hearings  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 06:41 PM   #51 
                 - I trust that Conyers and others are dead serious. I hope the Clintonites  blm   Mar-29-06 06:43 PM   #52 
                    - Want to make a wager that the Clintonistas will quash that attempt  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 06:54 PM   #55 
     - Is anyone who wants us to lay off of Bush even going to think about  Ken Burch   Mar-30-06 02:44 PM   #115 
  - K & R!  msgadget   Mar-29-06 04:05 PM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-29-06 04:07 PM   #7 
  - k&r  radio4progressives   Mar-29-06 04:09 PM   #8 
  - THIS IS NOT TRUE - The moment Feingold moved censure into committee is the  blm   Mar-29-06 04:12 PM   #9 
  - It wasn't Feingold who moved the Resolution to Committee, it was Durbin  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 01:59 PM   #102 
  - Thanks paineinthearse  AuntiBush   Mar-29-06 04:22 PM   #11 
  - Except it's selling A FALSE PREMISE. The info in it is BAD.  blm   Mar-29-06 04:24 PM   #13 
     - The info is not bad - it is revealing who voted for Censure of Clinton  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 01:36 PM   #92 
        - YES, it's bad - If you're NOT on that list you wanted IMPEACHMENT PROCESS  blm   Mar-30-06 03:45 PM   #128 
  - STUPID left bloggers supporting GOP demand for quick censure vote to STOP  blm   Mar-29-06 04:23 PM   #12 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-29-06 04:46 PM   #22 
  - Siding WITH Feingold's moving censure into committee to continue  blm   Mar-29-06 04:58 PM   #23 
     - No. It's stupid to call people stupid because they don't agree with you.  katinmn   Mar-29-06 05:09 PM   #25 
     - There are left bloggers spreading BAD INFO because they're not getting  blm   Mar-29-06 05:14 PM   #27 
        - Committee investigation? Please. I'm getting a side ache.  katinmn   Mar-29-06 09:50 PM   #58 
        - Apparently you disagree with Feingold whose committee is holding hearings  blm   Mar-30-06 09:09 AM   #82 
        - People don't seem to be writing in to support blm on this...  Iowa   Mar-29-06 10:07 PM   #60 
     - Facts, schmacts.  MH1   Mar-29-06 05:10 PM   #26 
        - Schmacts is right. Post 19 clearly shows the author's true color n/t  ProSense   Mar-29-06 06:57 PM   #56 
  - Sorry...The question is: Why aren't they listed as Co-sponsors?  farmbo   Mar-30-06 08:03 AM   #77 
  - WRONG - The MOMENT Feingold moved censure into committee the action  blm   Mar-30-06 09:17 AM   #83 
     - Strawman alert: The co-sponsors aren't saying " vote now, no investigation  farmbo   Mar-30-06 11:57 AM   #86 
        - Their SUPPORT for investigation helped GET THOSE HEARINGS FRIDAY.  blm   Mar-30-06 12:08 PM   #87 
           - Bush has admitted skirting FISA...and given Congress the old "Vaffanculo!"  farmbo   Mar-30-06 01:02 PM   #88 
              - Some already do and have been helpful to Feingold's push for hearings.  blm   Mar-30-06 01:11 PM   #89 
              - Farmbo, I missed this little factoid... please clarify for me..  radio4progressives   Apr-01-06 12:45 AM   #163 
                 - Check this out: from March 17th (Rove's handiwork)  farmbo   Apr-01-06 08:50 AM   #169 
  - I agree with you  Norquist Nemesis   Mar-30-06 01:46 PM   #98 
     - are you serious? Schumer's move was a complete OUT and END RUN  radio4progressives   Apr-01-06 12:48 AM   #164 
  - hey, i like the aesthetics of your photo arrangement.  rodeodance   Mar-29-06 04:27 PM   #14 
  - Act locally  paineinthearse   Mar-29-06 04:28 PM   #15 
  - WHY are you supporting GOPs position instead of Feingold?  blm   Mar-29-06 04:41 PM   #20 
  - I have called Kohl's office but will do so again.  rodeodance   Mar-29-06 04:29 PM   #16 
  - the hearing is Friday (below)--email cspan and ask to cover. I checked  rodeodance   Mar-29-06 04:33 PM   #17 
  - here is email address for cspan  rodeodance   Mar-29-06 04:37 PM   #18 
  - BEWARE - The OP benefits the GOP position, NOT Feingold's.  blm   Mar-29-06 04:43 PM   #21 
  - Why does this person's list keep changing?  ProSense   Mar-29-06 04:38 PM   #19 
  - I've called Feinstein three times now.  guidod   Mar-29-06 05:39 PM   #32 
  - DUers, take a BREATH!!  WesDem   Mar-29-06 06:52 PM   #54 
  - absolutely correct.  AtomicKitten   Mar-29-06 09:51 PM   #59 
  - I'm inclined to agree wth Paul Craig Roberts' assertion that Dems are  Nothing Without Hope   Mar-29-06 10:59 PM   #61 
  - It would explain some of the very strange behavior of elected officials  katinmn   Mar-29-06 11:07 PM   #62 
     - Exactly. Some of the GOPs, too, have acted very strangely, first  Nothing Without Hope   Mar-29-06 11:15 PM   #63 
  - RFK Jr estimated last year that 95% of the GOPs and 75% of the Dems  Nothing Without Hope   Mar-29-06 11:19 PM   #64 
  - Listen to what blm is saying...  Andromeda   Mar-30-06 01:18 AM   #65 
  - "The time has come for Senate Democrats to stand up to George Bush and..."  paineinthearse   Mar-30-06 07:05 AM   #67 
     - The author is not credible. Why does he keep changing the list?  ProSense   Mar-30-06 07:24 AM   #69 
     - The problem is that the focus is wrong - They should be calling committee  Mass   Mar-30-06 07:31 AM   #72 
        - That's fine, but this article promotes a bogus argument on many levels n/t  ProSense   Mar-30-06 07:35 AM   #73 
           - We'll see what happens Friday - Specter seems committed to bring this  Mass   Mar-30-06 07:39 AM   #74 
     - So, what is Feingold's excuse voting for Roberts? for Ascroft? ...  Mass   Mar-30-06 07:25 AM   #70 
     - What is Feingold's excuse for not supporting DSM investigation?  MH1   Mar-30-06 08:47 AM   #79 
     - Except Feingold WANTS THEM TO SUPPORT INVESTIGATION AND HEARINGS  blm   Mar-30-06 09:36 AM   #85 
     - Dems voted to Censure Clinton For a Blow Job, but Refuse to Censure Bush  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 01:38 PM   #93 
        - You do know that censure then was to STOP impeachment process in the  blm   Mar-30-06 03:22 PM   #124 
           - you seem to suggest that Censure is always in lieu of Impeachment  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 01:19 PM   #150 
              - I never suggested that even once.  blm   Mar-31-06 01:29 PM   #154 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-30-06 07:29 AM   #71 
  - Not people who disagree, bloggers who spread FALSE INFO and help the GOP  blm   Mar-30-06 08:02 AM   #76 
     - Show me the "FALSE INFO"  paineinthearse   Mar-30-06 08:55 AM   #80 
     - The false info is saying the list supported censure for Clinton but DON'T  blm   Mar-30-06 09:31 AM   #84 
        - Where's the Evidence that any of these Senators support Impeachment?  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 01:57 PM   #100 
           - Senators have no business pre-judging impeachment, especially since  blm   Mar-30-06 03:35 PM   #126 
              - Reading the Tea Leaves is not citing Secret Knowledge...  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 12:23 PM   #140 
     - BLM this is getting a little bit over the top here...  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 01:42 PM   #95 
        - Censure INSTEAD OF IMPEACHMENT  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-30-06 03:09 PM   #121 
        - YOU don't know who is against censure because they haven't VOTED ON IT.  blm   Mar-30-06 03:26 PM   #125 
  - i got this automated response from bill nelson  flblu2   Mar-30-06 07:48 AM   #75 
  - cowering???? or just dont agree with feingold on approach  seabeyond   Mar-30-06 09:05 AM   #81 
  - yes, cowering.  garybeck   Mar-30-06 01:30 PM   #91 
  - I can think of more for impeachment, Censure is weak!  ProSense   Mar-30-06 01:40 PM   #94 
  - If they won't go for Censure, they won't go for Impeachment..  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 01:45 PM   #97 
     - Isn't it obvious that until they take back Congress it's moot? n/t  ProSense   Mar-30-06 01:58 PM   #101 
        - I've been suggesting, that we won't see a Democratic Congress Impeach  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 02:25 PM   #107 
           - Why stop everything. Is there Republican support for censure? n/t  ProSense   Mar-30-06 02:31 PM   #110 
              - Stop? Stopping what?  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 02:41 PM   #113 
  - Hear ! Hear!  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 01:44 PM   #96 
  - well they are doing "something". but obviously it doesnt matter to  seabeyond   Mar-30-06 02:03 PM   #104 
     - btw, censor is fine with me, impeachment is fine with me,  seabeyond   Mar-30-06 02:04 PM   #105 
     - speaking of rhetoric... what exactly ARE they doing?  garybeck   Mar-30-06 02:47 PM   #116 
        - that's what i want to know.. exactly what are they doing?  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 02:53 PM   #119 
           - exactly. the lack of response is your answer...  garybeck   Mar-31-06 12:38 PM   #142 
              - Their lack of response reminds me of Scalia's jesture  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 01:17 PM   #149 
  - What I don't get is that we have two men  LittleClarkie   Mar-31-06 12:47 PM   #144 
     - I never saw this as a political stunt, or that Feingold would succeed  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 01:01 PM   #146 
        - Did you see Kerry and the fillibuster as a stunt?  LittleClarkie   Mar-31-06 01:04 PM   #147 
           - absolutely not... I was very pro-filibuster  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 01:15 PM   #148 
              - Groovy. I was very disturbed when a Dem/near Green co-worker  LittleClarkie   Mar-31-06 01:28 PM   #153 
              - Actually, R4P didn't support Kerry  WildEyedLiberal   Apr-01-06 01:03 PM   #171 
              - Kerry shouldn't have HAD to lead it - he's not a judiciary Dem.  blm   Mar-31-06 01:37 PM   #155 
              - Kerry wanted to lead this because it was a campaign promise  radio4progressives   Apr-01-06 12:39 AM   #162 
              - BULLSHIT you did not!  WildEyedLiberal   Apr-01-06 01:01 PM   #170 
  - the BIG missing point in all of this discussion is:::::>  garybeck   Mar-30-06 01:21 PM   #90 
  - exactly  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 01:48 PM   #99 
  - And how exactly does censure, attempted or real, stop Bush?  ProSense   Mar-30-06 02:01 PM   #103 
  - Censure Resolution Officially Puts him "On Notice" and  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 02:22 PM   #106 
  - An investigation, with or without censure, can lead to impeachment n/t  ProSense   Mar-30-06 02:26 PM   #108 
     - true, but don't we also want prosecution and conviction?  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 02:28 PM   #109 
        - Censure is not prosecution, and has no impact on an investigation. n/t  ProSense   Mar-30-06 02:33 PM   #111 
           - omg. i know that.  radio4progressives   Mar-30-06 02:38 PM   #112 
              - I don't think you do.  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-30-06 03:11 PM   #122 
  - who cares.  garybeck   Mar-30-06 02:49 PM   #117 
     - I do. I don't want an apology from Bush. Americans don't know? n/t  ProSense   Mar-30-06 02:53 PM   #120 
        - no, they don't know.  garybeck   Mar-30-06 04:09 PM   #129 
           - About 65% of the other half don't care, and the rest want proof. n/t  ProSense   Mar-30-06 04:17 PM   #130 
  - Kennedy and Leahy already demanded ALL the NSA documents for the committee  blm   Mar-30-06 03:39 PM   #127 
  - I note with interest  Donald Ian Rankin   Mar-31-06 11:35 AM   #136 
  - Everything "Reflects Badly" on the Democrats  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 11:52 AM   #137 
  - "censure motion's inevitable failure will reflect badly on the Democrats."  garybeck   Mar-31-06 12:41 PM   #143 
     - I'm afraid this is rather what I mean.  Donald Ian Rankin   Mar-31-06 01:26 PM   #152 
        - Since when did defending the Bill of Rights become a "Far Left" issue?  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 02:49 PM   #157 
           - Empty rhetoric.  Donald Ian Rankin   Mar-31-06 03:10 PM   #159 
              - Talk about Empty Rhetoric and Tortured Logic  radio4progressives   Apr-01-06 12:55 AM   #165 
                 - But it won't happen!  Donald Ian Rankin   Apr-01-06 04:04 AM   #167 
  - they are all dirty and they know it.  NVMojo   Mar-31-06 11:54 AM   #138 
  - My Hunch Proved Out Today & Feingold Nailed it when he said Cover Up!  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 11:58 AM   #139 
  - Russ  mdmc   Mar-31-06 12:26 PM   #141 
  - yes he does... bless his freedom rocking heart and soul...  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 12:50 PM   #145 
  - I think you're wrong - Feingold SUCCEEDED TODAY - he forced media to cover  blm   Mar-31-06 01:23 PM   #151 
     - Huh? There was no accountability for the Public Record Today..  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 02:45 PM   #156 
     - He got the Republican's defense on RECORD and the testimony FOR censure  blm   Mar-31-06 03:02 PM   #158 
        - Yes I agree with this point, which is why I supported it to begin with  radio4progressives   Mar-31-06 03:14 PM   #160 
           - That's what happens when you act on the fly - preparation and friends are  blm   Mar-31-06 06:47 PM   #161 
     - Feingold 'succeeded' today?  robcon   Apr-01-06 07:55 AM   #168 
  - Jesus!  0007   Apr-01-06 01:04 PM   #172 
 

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