Reply #135: Beautiful

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Better answer quick ;) :hi:

Beautiful as always, HS. Thank you for going down into the hidden stillness. That is ZACKLY what this (at least this OP) is about.

"Making an image of the eternal, or trying to describe it, "kills" it, as it reduces the All Beyond that can't be named, to your fixed place. That which existed before every thought, before our existence, is actually not connected to a line that extended to our finite thinking and naming. It can only be grasped by another kind of mind, a contemplation that freed itself of its own inventions."

Then:
"These are all tricky topics--if the angry reaction to these cartoons is justified because it is "their religion," then what about a riot because someone suggested that a woman might be a prophet or salvation of the world, or suggested that God created gays and loves them?"

I wouldn't say it is justified. It seemed that the outrage would be impacted by the taboo on visual imagery; it was obvious at DU that many Americans were ignorant of it and the "get over it" crowd might learn something (or not :rofl: ) I certainly learned something here.

Brilliant:

"I think there were two issues: the need to keep the Absolute Beyond un-interpreted, and understood as being unlike what we can think (although we can reach it, just not describe it as it was in itself), and the understanding that you cannot stop criticizing the injustices of Islam (as everything else) just because there is retribution. What is the only possible result, when the enlightened, tolerant side allows expression of attacks against it, and the oppressor allows no expression but submission, and then attacks the other? Eventually, it makes inroads that become threatening and that eventually, whatever anyone wants, will have to be confronted with criticism anyway."

And the really tricky part is when it goes both ways.

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BTW all this conflagration and the insistent destructive hatred of MEN MEN MEN MEN MEN MEN (where are the women?) is PROOF as well as a CALL for "a woman might be a prophet or salvation of the world." Plural.