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| 89. "They" killed 100,000 innocent civilians |
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in Iraq, "they" dropped two nuclear bombs on civilian cities, "they" kidnapped and tortured innocent people, their spokesperson Ann Coulter called for muslim leaders to be killed and the rest converted to Christianity, "they" murder 30,000 of their own people every year etc etc.
Yes, all 300 million Americans are evil murderers.
Don't fall into the "they" trap. There is no "Yellow Peril", no "Jewish Mafia", no "Muslim horde". Just lots of different types of people, some good, some bad, some indifferent.
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| -Did You Know That Islam Prohibits ANY Image Of Mohammed? |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 12:24 PM |
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i know there used to be prohibitions against images of any human figures |
bettyellen |
Feb-05-06 12:28 PM |
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and Nature |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 12:31 PM |
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i was sure animals too, but i forgot if plants were involved... |
bettyellen |
Feb-05-06 01:37 PM |
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Orthodox Judaism, as well. |
Cassandra |
Feb-07-06 10:40 AM |
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I just learned this during the recent controversey |
Lefty48197 |
Feb-05-06 12:28 PM |
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This might be pertinent if... |
Llewlladdwr |
Feb-05-06 12:29 PM |
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Very informative, thanks for the link. n/t |
iconocrastic |
Feb-06-06 07:01 PM |
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We've also heard conflicting stories regarding this... |
formernaderite |
Feb-05-06 12:29 PM |
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Actually strict observance forbids any images of animals, people, etc. |
TalkingDog |
Feb-05-06 12:31 PM |
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On the other |
Burning Water |
Feb-05-06 12:33 PM |
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Check out the link. Good talk on your question |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 12:37 PM |
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I'll feel more sympathy |
Burning Water |
Feb-05-06 12:59 PM |
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The OP is simply about one (overlooked) aspect of this |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 01:10 PM |
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No, I see you as wrong |
Burning Water |
Feb-05-06 02:00 PM |
#21 |
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An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 10:20 PM |
#26 |
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You're right here |
Burning Water |
Feb-05-06 10:32 PM |
#29 |
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You are having this argument all by yourself |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 10:43 PM |
#31 |
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As near as I could |
Burning Water |
Feb-06-06 06:43 PM |
#129 |
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Here Here |
dubya_dubya_III |
Feb-06-06 01:38 PM |
#120 |
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There are Protestants that think visual depictions of Jesus as idolotry |
AngryAmish |
Feb-05-06 11:28 PM |
#44 |
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Some think buttons are "fancy" but don't go ripping people's clothes off |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 12:09 AM |
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Easy, English!!! |
AngryAmish |
Feb-06-06 12:11 AM |
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Be careful out der among dem Ainglish ;) |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 12:20 AM |
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I disagree |
BoneDaddy |
Feb-06-06 12:30 PM |
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Agreed |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 06:49 PM |
#130 |
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Theocracies n/t |
Moochy |
Feb-06-06 12:11 AM |
#63 |
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Agreed |
BoneDaddy |
Feb-06-06 12:23 PM |
#109 |
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I really appreciate the efforts of those correcting this if its untrue |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 12:35 PM |
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And why should that matter to those who aren't Muslim? |
eallen |
Feb-05-06 12:35 PM |
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That's silly |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 12:38 PM |
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It Is Not Silly, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Feb-06-06 12:48 AM |
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eallen used the word "silly" |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 02:18 AM |
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The Essence Of A Free Society, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Feb-06-06 02:29 AM |
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The topic has revealed the odd way that some folks see "it" |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 09:20 AM |
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Mustafa Kemal Attaturk |
dubya_dubya_III |
Feb-07-06 07:08 PM |
#151 |
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Hear, hear! |
distantearlywarning |
Feb-06-06 09:53 AM |
#101 |
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Thank you |
omega minimo |
Feb-07-06 12:17 AM |
#137 |
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I think if they want to live their lives in the 8th century, they can, |
augie38 |
Feb-05-06 12:52 PM |
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To me yours is the important point eallen |
Yupster |
Feb-05-06 12:55 PM |
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Link was provided for more informed opinions |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 12:59 PM |
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well from what i understand they want the whole world to be |
catmother |
Feb-05-06 11:37 PM |
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Feb-06-06 06:20 AM |
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well that statement makes a lot of sense. |
catmother |
Feb-06-06 12:16 PM |
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See post #108. You're coming across as hysterical nt |
CJCRANE |
Feb-06-06 12:28 PM |
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Well, if that was true |
CJCRANE |
Feb-06-06 07:17 AM |
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i'm only repeating what i heard. isn't that in the Koran? and |
catmother |
Feb-06-06 12:06 PM |
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What about the poor 100,000 |
CJCRANE |
Feb-06-06 12:21 PM |
#108 |
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i'm not terrifying myself. and yes i do have a nice life, but it |
catmother |
Feb-06-06 12:49 PM |
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Well, I understand that |
CJCRANE |
Feb-06-06 01:58 PM |
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i don't know about most new yorkers but i can assure you that |
catmother |
Feb-06-06 02:44 PM |
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Yes, I did. Did you know I don't care? |
JackRiddler |
Feb-05-06 12:42 PM |
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Here is as much hatred about religion as the people you criticize |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 12:48 PM |
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i dont really hate religion... but there are a lot of people that need it |
sam sarrha |
Feb-05-06 01:08 PM |
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If all people talkin about democracy, freedom & god quite being hypocrites |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 01:16 PM |
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"I am intrigued by your philosophy and |
Wrinkle_In_Time |
Feb-05-06 10:23 PM |
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thanks Wrinkle! |
JackRiddler |
Feb-06-06 03:29 PM |
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Islam is an iconoclast religion |
Julius Civitatus |
Feb-05-06 02:56 PM |
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Thank you for sketching that out |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 03:53 PM |
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Thank you |
Julius Civitatus |
Feb-06-06 01:37 AM |
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Did you know they hate freedom of speech? |
corporate_mike |
Feb-05-06 09:39 PM |
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It's time for women to take over |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 10:10 PM |
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well i'll probably get flamed but i don't give a shit. they can make |
catmother |
Feb-05-06 10:28 PM |
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All Muslims are terrorists? |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-05-06 10:39 PM |
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because everything seems to be about "them". "they" can |
catmother |
Feb-05-06 10:47 PM |
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Understood. |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 11:08 PM |
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thank you for remembering his name. i certainly hope that this |
catmother |
Feb-05-06 11:31 PM |
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Why are you so angry and afraid? |
guidod |
Feb-05-06 11:18 PM |
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i'm not afraid but i am angry -- it's always something and i'm |
catmother |
Feb-05-06 11:23 PM |
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Maybe you're not, but you sound |
guidod |
Feb-05-06 11:32 PM |
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i said that i was angry. read the whole post. |
catmother |
Feb-05-06 11:42 PM |
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I read the whole post... |
guidod |
Feb-05-06 11:48 PM |
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maybe tomorrow. i'm too tired to listen to a 45 minute speech. |
catmother |
Feb-05-06 11:55 PM |
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where is the link??????? |
catmother |
Feb-06-06 12:05 AM |
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Right here. |
guidod |
Feb-06-06 04:29 PM |
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If the North America was as dominated by the Islamic world as the Islamic |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-05-06 11:32 PM |
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well i heard something on bill maher's show that arabs were |
catmother |
Feb-05-06 11:50 PM |
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I would hardly claim that the Arab and Muslim world has been 100% innocent |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-06-06 04:15 AM |
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okay there's a lot of history. but when does the violence stop? |
catmother |
Feb-06-06 12:12 PM |
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that is part of my point -- the violence against the Arab and Muslim |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-06-06 01:21 PM |
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If you're interested in history, try reading some books. |
Bridget Burke |
Feb-06-06 08:36 AM |
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Crusades? |
ieoeja |
Feb-06-06 01:08 PM |
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Byzantia? |
Bridget Burke |
Feb-07-06 03:02 PM |
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Excuse or cause? |
ieoeja |
Feb-07-06 04:34 PM |
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So--get your guns & start another Crusade. |
Bridget Burke |
Feb-08-06 08:14 AM |
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Anger |
kutblok |
Feb-05-06 11:35 PM |
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my anger is rational. and you know what, i'm tired, and i'm going |
catmother |
Feb-05-06 11:54 PM |
#57 |
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"They" killed 100,000 innocent civilians |
CJCRANE |
Feb-06-06 07:00 AM |
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let me assure you that i am not part of the "they" that you talk |
catmother |
Feb-06-06 12:26 PM |
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Because you're generalising about "them" |
CJCRANE |
Feb-06-06 12:34 PM |
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and all i'm saying is that nothing will be resolved by terrorisom or |
catmother |
Feb-06-06 12:40 PM |
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Us and Them-ism |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 10:53 PM |
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So? |
AngryAmish |
Feb-05-06 10:59 PM |
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The violent response does not justify the deliberate flamebait |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 11:15 PM |
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well said. i had hindu neighbors in new york. it was an apartment |
catmother |
Feb-05-06 11:45 PM |
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Newspapers are not bound by religious rules. |
GOPNotForMe |
Feb-05-06 11:02 PM |
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The OP offered another aspect for informed opinions |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 11:21 PM |
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Don't tell them there is an image of Mo in the SCOTUS building. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-05-06 11:10 PM |
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At it again, O? |
beam me up scottie |
Feb-05-06 11:21 PM |
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Mighty progressive of you to notice, Beam |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 11:27 PM |
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Snort! |
beam me up scottie |
Feb-05-06 11:32 PM |
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So next time put the disclaimer at the TOP? |
omega minimo |
Feb-05-06 11:40 PM |
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Try using shiny objects and |
beam me up scottie |
Feb-05-06 11:48 PM |
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Like churches used stained glass windows back when folks couldn't read? |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 12:16 AM |
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Did you know that Christians prohibit graven images? It's right there in |
Czolgosz |
Feb-05-06 11:55 PM |
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That must be why there's crosses, crucifixes, statues, stained glass, etc. |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 12:13 AM |
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Feb-06-06 08:33 AM |
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Coincidentally, they worship Mary |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 09:05 AM |
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Feb-06-06 09:30 AM |
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"veneration of Mary, a holdover from... when Goddesses were worshipped" |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 09:53 AM |
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Yes, & the more backwards Protestants regard this as a problem. |
Bridget Burke |
Feb-06-06 10:22 AM |
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Really a shame |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 09:16 PM |
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My point was that you can say Islam prohibits any image of Mohamed, but |
Czolgosz |
Feb-06-06 09:45 AM |
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It's not just Islam. |
Heewack |
Feb-06-06 12:16 AM |
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Ah |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 12:23 AM |
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Well, according to scripture... |
Heewack |
Feb-06-06 12:28 AM |
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And GOD doesn't have to tell you WHY sucker!!! |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 12:33 AM |
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The actual reasoning |
Heewack |
Feb-06-06 12:34 AM |
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Check out this pic |
Heewack |
Feb-06-06 12:20 AM |
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People must have been shocked |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 12:27 AM |
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LOL! |
Heewack |
Feb-06-06 12:29 AM |
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Oh my! |
beam me up scottie |
Feb-06-06 12:38 AM |
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Here. |
Heewack |
Feb-06-06 08:20 AM |
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This is an OP in which wisdom is evident. Thank you, omega minimo. |
Wordie |
Feb-06-06 12:29 AM |
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Although from different positions, both guests are remarkable |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 12:42 AM |
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I hope you don't mind, omega, but I'm posting a link to your thread in |
Wordie |
Feb-06-06 01:08 AM |
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A lot of these folks are obviously unbalanced |
JMDEM |
Feb-06-06 12:44 AM |
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I think I'm with you - I think it's more complicated than many think... |
Withywindle |
Feb-06-06 01:04 AM |
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Don't let them turn us all into dittoheads |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 01:06 AM |
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But Islamic Law DOESN'T Apply to NON-MUSLIMS |
liberalpragmatist |
Feb-06-06 01:26 AM |
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infidels vs heathens: the last one standing is the winner and |
msongs |
Feb-06-06 09:06 AM |
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Islam also prohibits eating pork |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-06-06 07:39 AM |
#91 |
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And cursing God is a stoning to death offense under the Old Testament |
Neil Lisst |
Feb-06-06 08:22 AM |
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The BASIC FLAW in this argument is this: Islam claims to be |
WinkyDink |
Feb-06-06 12:04 PM |
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Islam seems more egocentric than other religions. |
Neil Lisst |
Feb-07-06 12:49 AM |
#139 |
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Sadly, the Heirs of Liberty have no memories. |
dubya_dubya_III |
Feb-06-06 01:06 PM |
#116 |
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Yet so many crying "free speech" would NEVER use the "N" word to |
Wordie |
Feb-07-06 12:34 AM |
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If Allah is Love itself, there can be no problem |
dubya_dubya_III |
Feb-07-06 05:21 PM |
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Give me a sufficient reason to use the word, and I would. |
igil |
Feb-08-06 11:30 AM |
#156 |
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Two Points; Two Issues |
Hidden Stillness |
Feb-06-06 01:23 PM |
#119 |
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Beautiful |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 08:58 PM |
#135 |
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Surely the second. |
dubya_dubya_III |
Feb-07-06 06:10 PM |
#148 |
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"Absolute Beyond" = "Infinite Love" |
omega minimo |
Feb-07-06 07:49 PM |
#153 |
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that's nice, still no excuse for setting embassies on fire |
Snivi Yllom |
Feb-06-06 01:42 PM |
#121 |
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i totallaly agree. violence does not solve anything, just makes |
catmother |
Feb-06-06 01:46 PM |
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NPR interview is worthwhile part of this debate. PLEASE recommend this |
Wordie |
Feb-06-06 01:43 PM |
#122 |
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Pictures of Mohammed... |
dryan |
Feb-06-06 03:18 PM |
#126 |
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I already knew that |
fujiyama |
Feb-06-06 07:02 PM |
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well said. i feel the same way that you do. |
catmother |
Feb-06-06 07:44 PM |
#133 |
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"The willingness to be offended" |
omega minimo |
Feb-06-06 08:42 PM |
#134 |
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... and Jesus and Moses and Ibrahim and ... |
Monkey see Monkey Do |
Feb-07-06 09:42 AM |
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I'm aware of that, but my reaction is: So what? |
SteppingRazor |
Feb-07-06 10:02 AM |
#141 |
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A little subtlety never hurt nobody |
omega minimo |
Feb-07-06 07:34 PM |
#152 |
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So? Just because, decades ago, Catholics couldn't eat meat |
WinkyDink |
Feb-07-06 10:17 AM |
#142 |
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agreed. nt |
catmother |
Feb-07-06 12:16 PM |
#144 |
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To that I say: "Too bad." |
Oregonian |
Feb-07-06 06:30 PM |
#149 |
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I can remember when Christians didn't like moving images...... |
NativeTexan |
Feb-07-06 06:33 PM |
#150 |
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It's still free speech |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-07-06 08:17 PM |
#154 |
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Yes I did. The question is do they have a right to restrict my freedoms |
greyhound1966 |
Feb-08-06 11:34 AM |
#157 |
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