Would you do all of this & make no move to control the counting of votes ?

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This is my own personal opinion.

There seems to be a group that thinks the "Exit polls said Kerry WON" argument is weak. That the studies show something happened, but it probably wasn't machine fraud, or the Inside HACK, if you will.

Another group thinks that the Exit poll studies show fraud, period.

I have listened to this debate continue for months, nearly a year. But let me backtrack. I was recruited for the Kerry campaign by Ted Carter-- from the national office, he was Clinton's '96 director of field operations. I told Ted "In my gut- Kerry should win-- an Incumbent gets his may/june approval rating in Nov. SO Bush is at 44%, throw in 1% for 3rd party votes and Kerry gets 55%. What got me the job offer, was my overall sheer brilliance-- LOL- and the above statement on Approval ratings, and "in a legal and fair election Kerry will win by 10%." Of course the response was-- "Who said it would be fair & Legal?". I spent the month of October in Broward County Fl. When I came home to NJ on Nov 3rd, I dove into the internet and joined DU. I wanted to learn about these computerized machines.

I think the election of 2004 was stolen by multiple means. I think Machine fraud was part of the "Solution".

Harry Hurstis Diebold opscan hack in Leon county Fl. Its the inside hack. This system allows for the inside hack, and actually has better protection against the outside hack. It seems that many other DRE & optical scan systems have a similar design. The design that allows the inside hack to be easier than the outside hack maybe a coincidence, but it has to be considered.

I discussed this with Rebecca Mercuri in the spring of 2005. I asked her about the Architecture of computerized voting machines, it seemed to me that they were designed for the inside hack, she agreed. I asked her about the so called redundancy for date storage, that it seemed to be one input going in, 2 coming out. Vendors claimed that redundancy was a good thing, it was like reconciling your check book. And this argument seemed counter intuitive to me. A Checkbook has 2 inputs, debits and credits. And that DRE redundancy was not the same. I then asked Rebecca if this was like an accountant having 2 sets of books. YES, it is. Does the entire DRE industry have to be designing equipment like this? the answer was no.

Since those heady days right after the 2004 election I have learned a bit more.

1) PCMCIA card slots for removable media (memory cards & such). These cards allow for executable commands to be inserted into a computer. Think DREs & Optical scanners for paper ballots..

2) I know of one smaller vendor who uses CD-ROMs to load the ballot into the Touch screen voting machine (DRE). The DRE then burns a new CD_ROM with the end of election vote totals. This method seems to be far more secure, and takes one step away from the "Inside Hack Architecture".

3) To be fair, redundancy is performed the same way on a typical PC. But the backup of data is not transparent because of the Proprietary software used. One would be allowed to open up a lever machine and look at the vote counting mechanism, but we can't look at the vote counting mechanism of a DRE.

Since the Election of 2004, we have seen an attempt to consolidate massive Executive Power in the White House.
-WE now know that the Bush regime lied about WMDs.
-WE now know that the Bush regime wants chaos in Iraq, to steal.
-WE now know that the Bush regime has historical ties to prior attempts to remake the USA into a fascist state.
-WE now know that the Bush regime wants to take US citizens off the street and make then disappear.
-We now know that the Bush Regime tried to cover up spying on American citizens.
-WE now know that there is a considerable body of evidence that 9-11 was at least LIHOP.
-And it may be that the OBL tape released before the 2004 election, and this weeks tape, were computer generated, not OBL.
-WE now know that the Bush regime plans are outlined in PNAC documents.

Would you do all of this and make no move to control the counting of votes?

I apologize if I misrepresented anyones opinion in any way.