Reply #74: okay, first of all I didn't say Orthodox

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I meant politically conservative.

Who do you mean by "you"?

I am Jewish, and I have a large Russian-Jewish immigrant family here in the US, most of whom, except my parents are complete hawks on Israel and drive various cars, including pick-ups with bumperstickers just like that.

I am also against the illegal occupation of Palestinian territories and is saddened and horrified by the political bedding-down of conservative JEws and conservative Christians in America that contributes to a platform I find rooted in nothing but jinoistic religion. I find any kind of fundamentalism detrimental and insane. Are you going to argue that that kind of bumpersticker is not reflective of fundamentalist thinking? God's covenant with Israel? *I* don't think the Jews are the chosen people. But whoever sports that bumpersticker certainly is.

To me President Asshat and President Sharon are cut from the same cloth

*Some of us would just like to live our lives, be good people that take care of our families and yes, love our country the United States as well as having some care and concern about fellow Jews in the land of Israel.*

That is neither here, nor there. I have care and concern about fellow Jews in the land of Israel, I just happen to think they will be better off in a state not controlled by cryptofundamentalist interests of the Jesus Landing Pad posse.

Having said that, I agree with you that this thread is flamebait, most likely.