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34. You remember 'baby killer' from the media...
...not from actual events that were in any way widespread. The media simply repeated what was being said by those who didn't want any resistance to the Vietnam war. It later become an urban myth and is repeated to this day. I'm not saying there wasn't isolated incidences...but the majority of protestors simply wanted their soldier families to come home.

Yes...there was violence...but the violence came from cops and the guard...ordered by Nixon and others to put down the protests at any cost.

And of course many Vets went back to civilian life. But I have videos of protests in DC where thousands of Vets participated in the protests. There was even a 'ceremony' where Vets threw their medals and ribbons in a cage representing the 'garbage'.

It seems that moderates have joined with RWingers in painting the Vietnam protestors as a bunch of crazy, dope smoking hippies that had nothing better to do. And now they're doing the same thing to those with the courage to protest and reject the lies that took this nation to war in Iraq.

Activists and protestors are the conscience of America...and they usually represent the silent majority against the power of the rich, well-armed, warmongering minority.
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  -Coronation of King George: Shame on Republicans AND Democrats Q  Jan-20-05 11:01 AM   #0 
  - Yes...we share the blame for the creation of the Bush Monster...  Q   Jan-20-05 11:13 AM   #1 
  - I share your shame and sense of outrage  Tinoire   Jan-20-05 11:17 AM   #2 
  - We seem to be quite alone in feeling this way...  Q   Jan-20-05 11:44 AM   #3 
  - Why do I NEVER hear a condemnation of the Radical RW from you...  ClassWarrior   Jan-20-05 11:53 AM   #4 
  - Some of us have been getting that out of the way 4 years ago...  Tinoire   Jan-20-05 01:31 PM   #5 
  - No..shame on those who collaborate with the fascists...  Q   Jan-20-05 05:45 PM   #13 
  - Wait a min...  darboy   Jan-21-05 11:07 AM   #31 
  - As a Dem, I don't accept your blame.  Redleg   Jan-20-05 01:35 PM   #6 
  - Naw. We just rolled over when we saw it coming. n/t  Tinoire   Jan-20-05 02:04 PM   #11 
  - We? I don't do collective blame.  Redleg   Jan-21-05 09:35 AM   #21 
     - I'll refer you to posts 7 & 35  Tinoire   Jan-21-05 02:35 PM   #37 
  - Sure we helped create the Monster Bush...  Q   Jan-20-05 05:48 PM   #14 
     - Okay- perhaps the Democratic Leadership but not us poor SOBs.  Redleg   Jan-21-05 09:35 AM   #22 
  - Bullshit - YOU ARE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY  cestpaspossible   Jan-20-05 01:38 PM   #7 
  - Nah...the 'party' are those in leadership roles...  Q   Jan-20-05 05:52 PM   #15 
     - How do you think they get into leadership roles?  cestpaspossible   Jan-21-05 01:42 PM   #35 
  - Why did you say "my" party?  GOPBasher   Jan-20-05 01:41 PM   #8 
  - Perhaps you simply have...  Q   Jan-20-05 06:01 PM   #16 
  - Well...I'd like an answer from you...  Q   Jan-20-05 06:20 PM   #18 
     - I often get pissed at Democrats.  GOPBasher   Jan-21-05 09:51 AM   #23 
        - Getting 'pissed' is no longer enough...  Q   Jan-21-05 10:07 AM   #26 
  - Well said. The "opposition" party has become the collaborator party.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-20-05 01:43 PM   #9 
  - C'mon, it's just a spectacle.  msgadget   Jan-20-05 01:44 PM   #10 
  - Given up? I've been at this since NIXON...  Q   Jan-20-05 05:40 PM   #12 
     - Good, I'm glad you haven't.  msgadget   Jan-20-05 06:18 PM   #17 
        - It is hopeless only if we continue to debate within the framework...  Q   Jan-21-05 10:00 AM   #24 
           - You're preaching to the converted  msgadget   Jan-21-05 10:17 AM   #28 
  - Damn right  gulfcoastliberal   Jan-20-05 06:42 PM   #19 
  - And to watch that smirk on Bush's face as he prances...  Q   Jan-20-05 06:47 PM   #20 
  - "Left-wing" bears some blame, too  moggie12   Jan-21-05 10:06 AM   #25 
  - Riight! War opposition led to stealing elections?  robbedvoter   Jan-21-05 10:15 AM   #27 
  - Care to elaborate? I don't understand your point.  moggie12   Jan-21-05 10:42 AM   #30 
     - yeah, but NOT a majority. WE are the majority, and it would be nice  robbedvoter   Jan-21-05 02:51 PM   #39 
  - Well...I knew it would get around to BLAMING THE RADICAL LEFT...  Q   Jan-21-05 10:41 AM   #29 
  - I DID NOT! (Sorry, couldn't resist that immature response)  moggie12   Jan-21-05 11:29 AM   #32 
     - You remember 'baby killer' from the media...  Q   Jan-21-05 01:01 PM   #34 
        - Thanks for the thoughtful reply  moggie12   Jan-21-05 02:26 PM   #36 
           - There's a pretty simple answer...  Zhade   Jan-21-05 03:03 PM   #40 
           - Very well said. That's my problem with DLC, too.  moggie12   Jan-21-05 03:20 PM   #41 
              - I think they played off of rightwing-hyped concerns.  Zhade   Jan-21-05 03:25 PM   #42 
           - The thing about 'passion' is that it leads to action...  Q   Jan-22-05 07:34 AM   #43 
           - Unfortunately the reality now is that if one of our own (so to speak)  sunnystarr   Jan-22-05 09:55 AM   #45 
  - Decrying the abuses of corporations isn't "Vilifying capitalism".  Zhade   Jan-21-05 02:48 PM   #38 
  - They/we passed the Patriot Act, war on Iraq, the insane tax cut.  tngledwebb   Jan-21-05 11:41 AM   #33 
     - To be fair...  Q   Jan-22-05 07:52 AM   #44 
 

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