| 20. I didn't know that. How sweet! |
|
I imagine part of it had to also do with the draft Clark movement...took time for that whole proccess to evolve.
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| -Heard from a friend in Washington DC that Clark WAS who they feared most. |
Quixote1818 |
Jan-19-05 04:01 PM |
#0 |
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DUH. |
tjdee |
Jan-19-05 04:03 PM |
#1 |
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perhaps threatened by Lie |
Lefta Dissenter |
Jan-19-05 04:13 PM |
#6 |
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Lieberman makes me scratch my head. |
AP |
Jan-19-05 06:26 PM |
#39 |
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uh, i was one until Clark! |
faithfulcitizen |
Jan-19-05 09:29 PM |
#73 |
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Double duh |
Clark2008 |
Jan-21-05 05:56 PM |
#206 |
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GOP-er insider said it on a public Teevee station in Boston |
robbedvoter |
Jan-19-05 04:04 PM |
#2 |
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Please fill me in on this one, Robbed |
Larry in KC |
Jan-20-05 02:23 PM |
#133 |
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I always knew they were afraid of Clark |
Leilani |
Jan-19-05 04:09 PM |
#3 |
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We were afraid of him too though |
Used and Abused |
Jan-20-05 03:35 AM |
#105 |
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Wes Clark NEVER was a registered republican! |
Ice4Clark |
Jan-20-05 05:07 AM |
#107 |
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Clark was definitely our BEST CANDIDATE and we blew it |
Veganistan |
Jan-20-05 03:38 PM |
#148 |
| -
"How quickly we forget?" |
Sparkly |
Jan-21-05 08:39 AM |
#184 |
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Only from my Republican brother-in-law |
Lefta Dissenter |
Jan-19-05 04:11 PM |
#4 |
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I don't know any Repub "insiders" but... |
Jai4WKC08 |
Jan-19-05 06:00 PM |
#32 |
| -
True! |
eek |
Jan-20-05 01:02 PM |
#129 |
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Well I understand that it was a |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-19-05 04:12 PM |
#5 |
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Uhh. |
cornermouse |
Jan-19-05 04:22 PM |
#17 |
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perhaps so |
WI_DEM |
Jan-19-05 04:15 PM |
#7 |
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Dean/Clark, Clark/Dean...brings back memories |
BeyondGeography |
Jan-19-05 04:18 PM |
#10 |
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I can see why they would be nervous about Dean |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-19-05 04:39 PM |
#19 |
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Yeah, Well... Clark Didn't Have A Competent Campaign Staff |
cryingshame |
Jan-19-05 04:15 PM |
#8 |
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The media really went after Clark early. |
dmordue |
Jan-19-05 04:17 PM |
#9 |
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my only complaint about Clark during the election was.... |
GloriaSmith |
Jan-19-05 04:20 PM |
#16 |
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Yes, he asked for his wifes permission to run and it took her a long time |
Quixote1818 |
Jan-19-05 04:30 PM |
#18 |
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I didn't know that. How sweet! |
GloriaSmith |
Jan-19-05 04:41 PM |
#20 |
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FOX News put their foot on his throat and never let up |
digno dave |
Jan-20-05 11:25 AM |
#123 |
| -
So what does Clark do now? |
GloriaSmith |
Jan-19-05 04:18 PM |
#11 |
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Clark says he "rules nothing out" when asked about a 2008 run |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-19-05 04:44 PM |
#22 |
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thanks for the sites! n/t |
GloriaSmith |
Jan-19-05 04:56 PM |
#25 |
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Here's a site with clips of his most recent appearances |
RandomUser |
Jan-20-05 09:08 AM |
#113 |
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Well, he campaigned all over the country for Kerry/Edwards |
Leilani |
Jan-19-05 04:48 PM |
#23 |
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I knew he campaigned for Kerry.... |
GloriaSmith |
Jan-19-05 04:55 PM |
#24 |
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He's Very Active With His PAC |
corbett |
Jan-19-05 05:00 PM |
#27 |
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The Democrats were given a peasant.......... |
ArkDem |
Jan-19-05 04:18 PM |
#12 |
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and chose |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-19-05 05:57 PM |
#31 |
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lol |
ArkDem |
Jan-20-05 08:45 AM |
#112 |
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Why does this surprise anyone? |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-19-05 04:20 PM |
#13 |
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Clark would have taken every Gore 2000 state plue the Carolina's... |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Jan-19-05 10:57 PM |
#80 |
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The dog would have caught the rabbit if it hadn't stopped to pee. |
ArkDem |
Jan-21-05 08:33 AM |
#183 |
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My beloved yet Republican father the same story |
southlandshari |
Jan-20-05 07:57 AM |
#109 |
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Keep those Dems in the circular firing squad |
sandnsea |
Jan-19-05 04:20 PM |
#14 |
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Exactly. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-19-05 04:42 PM |
#21 |
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You risk major backlash when you try to smear a man like Wes Clark. |
Skwmom |
Jan-19-05 08:57 PM |
#69 |
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Dems keep deluding themselves |
sandnsea |
Jan-19-05 11:43 PM |
#87 |
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What WWIII "situation"?....Oh, you mean that |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 02:21 AM |
#102 |
| -
See you don't get it |
sandnsea |
Jan-20-05 11:46 AM |
#127 |
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It would really depend on what the General and his |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 01:08 PM |
#130 |
| -
Actually, you prove my point |
sandnsea |
Jan-20-05 02:39 PM |
#135 |
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My goodness..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 03:51 PM |
#149 |
| -
Yes of course |
sandnsea |
Jan-20-05 04:27 PM |
#153 |
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Touchy....but for no good reason.... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 05:10 PM |
#157 |
| -
Hmmmm |
sandnsea |
Jan-21-05 02:01 AM |
#182 |
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given this argument, sandnsea, we can't run anyone ever and win. |
roguevalley |
Jan-20-05 03:11 PM |
#141 |
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The opposite |
sandnsea |
Jan-20-05 04:10 PM |
#152 |
| -
If Kerry had rebutted stuff instead of sitting on it because a committee |
roguevalley |
Jan-20-05 03:09 PM |
#139 |
| -
Yes certain Dems do "keep deluding themselves." |
Skwmom |
Jan-21-05 12:18 AM |
#180 |
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Doesn't surprise me... |
truebrit71 |
Jan-19-05 04:20 PM |
#15 |
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I believe it |
bliss_eternal |
Jan-19-05 04:58 PM |
#26 |
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Clark voted for Reagan, Michael Moore endorsed him |
lookinforward |
Jan-19-05 05:01 PM |
#28 |
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Sorry, but the attacks against Clark would not have stuck during the GE... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-19-05 06:22 PM |
#37 |
| -
thanks for the great response |
lookinforward |
Jan-20-05 12:20 AM |
#90 |
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You are welcome.... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 02:26 AM |
#103 |
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I always thought Clark would have been a strong nominee |
BlueInRed |
Jan-19-05 05:02 PM |
#29 |
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I believe that. And I believe Kerry was about tied with him. |
The Gigmeister |
Jan-19-05 05:33 PM |
#30 |
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If he is still interested he can run in 2008. His support will still be |
w4rma |
Jan-19-05 06:03 PM |
#33 |
| -
I suspect that was before he actually got into the race |
dolstein |
Jan-19-05 06:07 PM |
#34 |
| -
I have a friend who is related to a guy who works for Karl Rove |
Cheswick2.0 |
Jan-19-05 06:11 PM |
#35 |
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That's Rove at his best....it's called DISINFORMATION |
Clarkie1 |
Jan-19-05 06:25 PM |
#38 |
| -
despite the limited report on Rove's comment on Dean before Iowa.. |
lookinforward |
Jan-20-05 12:42 AM |
#94 |
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Perception in politics is everthing n/t |
Clarkie1 |
Jan-20-05 12:44 AM |
#95 |
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That's a load of bull |
dolstein |
Jan-19-05 06:28 PM |
#40 |
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No it's not n/t |
Cheswick2.0 |
Jan-20-05 05:22 PM |
#161 |
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And my step-cousin's aunt former neighbor-in-law told ME |
Clark2008 |
Jan-21-05 06:07 PM |
#207 |
| -
That's about the way I see it too. |
AP |
Jan-19-05 06:20 PM |
#36 |
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Come on AP....now, |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-19-05 06:29 PM |
#41 |
| -
oops...self delete |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-19-05 06:29 PM |
#42 |
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The examples are in that Frame the Debate post... |
AP |
Jan-19-05 06:39 PM |
#45 |
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I've read Lakoff, and you've got a strange interpretation of it |
Sparkly |
Jan-19-05 06:48 PM |
#49 |
| -
Almost a direct quote from that book |
AP |
Jan-19-05 07:02 PM |
#52 |
| -
Huge leap of logic there |
Sparkly |
Jan-19-05 07:19 PM |
#55 |
| -
It's definitely a debatable point. |
AP |
Jan-19-05 07:25 PM |
#56 |
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I wouldn't say "Nasty Shit" to you......AP..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-19-05 06:55 PM |
#51 |
| -
That we are at war is a cognitive framework that benefits Republicans... |
AP |
Jan-19-05 07:12 PM |
#54 |
| -
I understand....but.... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-19-05 07:30 PM |
#59 |
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You are applying the same decades-old stereotypes the GOP uses |
Sparkly |
Jan-19-05 07:32 PM |
#60 |
| -
What I'm arguing is that Democrats win when voters believe |
AP |
Jan-19-05 09:10 PM |
#71 |
| -
Which takes nothing away from the General |
Sparkly |
Jan-19-05 09:40 PM |
#74 |
| -
This debate is certainly contained entirely within the left half of... |
AP |
Jan-19-05 11:30 PM |
#85 |
| -
Lakoff, p. 35: |
AP |
Jan-19-05 11:48 PM |
#89 |
| -
Yeah, and? |
Sparkly |
Jan-20-05 11:23 AM |
#122 |
| -
Disagree with your Lakoff conclusions |
MontecitoDem |
Jan-20-05 05:38 PM |
#164 |
| -
Where does he say that? |
AP |
Jan-20-05 10:46 PM |
#177 |
| -
You're right, I should have been more exact! |
MontecitoDem |
Jan-20-05 11:44 PM |
#179 |
| -
p. 21 of Moral Politics is about John Rawls and theoretical liberalism |
AP |
Jan-21-05 09:24 AM |
#187 |
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I'm quoting Lakoff from pg 21 of "Don't Think Like an Elephant" |
MontecitoDem |
Jan-21-05 04:40 PM |
#199 |
| -
It's still not clear to me... |
AP |
Jan-21-05 05:52 PM |
#205 |
| -
Maybe this is what you're thinking of: |
AP |
Jan-21-05 10:28 AM |
#188 |
| -
Hi AP. Here's another stab at this with you, |
MontecitoDem |
Jan-21-05 04:52 PM |
#200 |
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I think Frenchie is one of the best spokespeople for Clark. |
AP |
Jan-21-05 05:29 PM |
#203 |
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true |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Jan-21-05 05:01 PM |
#202 |
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first question: How did you become an expert on Clark's parenting style? |
Clarkie1 |
Jan-19-05 06:36 PM |
#44 |
| -
See the last two sentences of post 45. |
AP |
Jan-19-05 06:40 PM |
#46 |
| -
I see you know nothing about Clark's position on liberal issues |
Clarkie1 |
Jan-19-05 06:44 PM |
#47 |
| -
I agree. Clark is more liberal than Dean. |
AP |
Jan-19-05 06:52 PM |
#50 |
| -
What Clark REALLY said was... |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-19-05 08:06 PM |
#65 |
| -
I think that's almost exactly the point I was trying to make. |
AP |
Jan-19-05 09:12 PM |
#72 |
| -
Your response sort of illustrates the problem with your argument.. |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-20-05 12:55 AM |
#97 |
| -
Hmm. |
AP |
Jan-20-05 07:53 AM |
#108 |
| -
Actually, I see both perspectives... |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-20-05 11:18 AM |
#120 |
| -
"You don't see the bigger picture." |
AP |
Jan-20-05 11:41 AM |
#126 |
| -
Interesting discussion, but a few points |
Jai4WKC08 |
Jan-20-05 12:30 PM |
#128 |
| -
I'm inclined to disagree |
BlueInRed |
Jan-19-05 06:45 PM |
#48 |
| -
You may be right n/t |
Clarkie1 |
Jan-19-05 07:04 PM |
#53 |
| -
I think you overestimate your ability to choose |
RafterMan |
Jan-19-05 11:07 PM |
#81 |
| -
Have you read Moral Politics? |
AP |
Jan-19-05 11:32 PM |
#86 |
| -
"Democratic cognitive framework " ? |
sybil |
Jan-20-05 11:22 AM |
#121 |
| -
gee YA THINK??????????? |
Skittles |
Jan-19-05 06:31 PM |
#43 |
| -
I did and do agree totally. Too bad he missed Iowa... |
Laura PackYourBags |
Jan-19-05 07:26 PM |
#57 |
| -
Something strange: |
Donna Zen |
Jan-19-05 07:30 PM |
#58 |
| -
Yes.....the Rethug's worst nightmare is right..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-19-05 07:50 PM |
#63 |
| -
kick |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Jan-19-05 11:17 PM |
#83 |
| -
Clark appealed across the spectrum. Even people with their |
roguevalley |
Jan-20-05 03:22 PM |
#144 |
| -
I'm excited about Clark. If he decides to run in '08, I'll gladly |
deadparrot |
Jan-19-05 07:48 PM |
#61 |
| -
So will I! |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Jan-21-05 04:56 PM |
#201 |
| -
I didn't support Clark....but I think what your friend said was true... |
KoKo01 |
Jan-19-05 07:49 PM |
#62 |
| -
If that was the case, they wouldn't have worked overtime |
Skwmom |
Jan-19-05 09:00 PM |
#70 |
| -
Anyone who claims that they feared Lieberman |
dansolo |
Jan-19-05 08:05 PM |
#64 |
| -
They feared Lieberman because he was strong on National Defense |
Quixote1818 |
Jan-20-05 01:47 AM |
#99 |
| -
Lieberman would have been an embarrassment |
dansolo |
Jan-20-05 03:10 PM |
#140 |
| -
If security Mom's feel protected by a cheerleader then yes, |
Quixote1818 |
Jan-20-05 05:13 PM |
#158 |
| -
Note: This bill was introduced by a republican |
Donna Zen |
Jan-19-05 08:08 PM |
#66 |
| -
Clark would have won, I have no doubt. |
MrSlayer |
Jan-19-05 08:20 PM |
#67 |
| -
Clark is a gifted intellect and a speaker to the common man. |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Jan-19-05 11:13 PM |
#82 |
| -
Wasn't Dean the only one the Repubs ran an ad against |
NYCGirl |
Jan-19-05 08:55 PM |
#68 |
| -
And didn't those ads work? n/t |
JPJones |
Jan-19-05 10:15 PM |
#76 |
| -
Not by themselves. But they helped. |
NYCGirl |
Jan-19-05 10:41 PM |
#77 |
| -
I figured as much when both O'Reilly and Hannity |
JPJones |
Jan-19-05 10:12 PM |
#75 |
| -
Funny, this was my first time ever being involved in politics |
AchtungToddler |
Jan-19-05 10:47 PM |
#78 |
| -
Yes.... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 01:51 PM |
#131 |
| -
Same here! |
Quixote1818 |
Jan-21-05 10:44 AM |
#189 |
| -
LOOK AT MY AVATAR!!! I knew this all along!!! |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Jan-19-05 10:49 PM |
#79 |
| -
Nah! Dean was the one they feared. That's why they got rid of him via |
leesa |
Jan-19-05 11:18 PM |
#84 |
| -
WTF? |
fujiyama |
Jan-19-05 11:46 PM |
#88 |
| -
Really? What gives you that idea? |
MrSlayer |
Jan-20-05 12:35 AM |
#93 |
| -
What baloney, leesa |
ClarkUSA |
Jan-20-05 01:26 AM |
#98 |
| -
Richard Perle disagrees with ya. After Clark's congress testimony |
robbedvoter |
Jan-20-05 08:05 AM |
#110 |
| -
clark is going to give kerry a run for his money in the primaries...... |
Califooyah Operative |
Jan-20-05 12:27 AM |
#91 |
| -
Clark |
progressiveright |
Jan-20-05 12:32 AM |
#92 |
| -
Yes he was green but Kerry made the same kind of mistakes later on |
Quixote1818 |
Jan-20-05 01:57 AM |
#100 |
| -
i think kerry was getting too old |
progressiveright |
Jan-20-05 02:07 AM |
#101 |
| -
What do you mean? |
Jai4WKC08 |
Jan-20-05 10:16 AM |
#114 |
| -
i don't remember the exact story |
progressiveright |
Jan-21-05 12:52 AM |
#181 |
| -
Yep, that was it |
Jai4WKC08 |
Jan-21-05 12:06 PM |
#194 |
| -
Clark 2008 n/t |
Dr Fate |
Jan-20-05 12:48 AM |
#96 |
| -
Feared Lieberman? |
Used and Abused |
Jan-20-05 03:34 AM |
#104 |
| -
Lieberman was actually a good general election candidate. |
Quixote1818 |
Jan-20-05 10:25 AM |
#116 |
| -
Because Dean spoke out against the war but wasn't military, he was dissed. |
Carolab |
Jan-20-05 03:51 AM |
#106 |
| -
Dean going skiing during Nam would have killed him |
Quixote1818 |
Jan-20-05 10:31 AM |
#117 |
| -
Iraq War was the most immoral war since Vietname, Repukes feared |
Larkspur |
Jan-20-05 08:26 AM |
#111 |
| -
That's an ironic statement |
Jai4WKC08 |
Jan-20-05 10:31 AM |
#118 |
| -
Many crossovers |
48percenter |
Jan-20-05 10:21 AM |
#115 |
| -
I would have liked a Clark/Kerry ticket |
ThorsHammer |
Jan-20-05 10:33 AM |
#119 |
| -
Indeed, the Kerry Cheney debate would have been worth it alone |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Jan-20-05 11:31 AM |
#125 |
| -
Dems in New Hampshire were fools not to vote for him |
digno dave |
Jan-20-05 11:28 AM |
#124 |
| -
Yeah, and PIGS CAN FLY, too |
jswordy |
Jan-20-05 02:17 PM |
#132 |
| -
old, refuted news |
digno dave |
Jan-20-05 02:37 PM |
#134 |
| -
Right...foil hats, just believe what you want to believe, it's cool. |
jswordy |
Jan-20-05 02:42 PM |
#136 |
| -
How can you endorse a man who said... |
jswordy |
Jan-20-05 02:46 PM |
#137 |
| -
When will Wesley Clark stop telling tall tales? |
jswordy |
Jan-20-05 03:04 PM |
#138 |
| -
Good grief. ANd I suppose we can believe anything Rove says |
roguevalley |
Jan-20-05 03:31 PM |
#146 |
| -
Child, calm down..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 05:02 PM |
#154 |
| -
Maybe some of these people don't know the difference.. |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-20-05 05:19 PM |
#160 |
| -
I heard it was Lieberman |
killbotfactory |
Jan-20-05 03:13 PM |
#142 |
| -
LOL! |
Sopianae |
Jan-20-05 03:16 PM |
#143 |
| -
No according to Wes Clark, as told... |
jswordy |
Jan-20-05 03:28 PM |
#145 |
| -
No need to identify yourself as a Dean Supporter |
Leilani |
Jan-20-05 03:36 PM |
#147 |
| -
Some of these aren't even new |
WesDem |
Jan-20-05 03:57 PM |
#150 |
| -
Yeah, adorable, WesDem |
Leilani |
Jan-20-05 04:00 PM |
#151 |
| -
Ah, in your own words.....thanks. |
madfloridian |
Jan-20-05 05:06 PM |
#156 |
| -
My words, you are welcome |
WesDem |
Jan-20-05 05:13 PM |
#159 |
| -
My goodness!!!! |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 05:06 PM |
#155 |
| -
Links, Frenchie? |
Leilani |
Jan-20-05 05:23 PM |
#162 |
| -
And how easy it would be |
WesDem |
Jan-20-05 05:50 PM |
#165 |
| -
Naw..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 05:57 PM |
#167 |
| -
Well, that, yeah |
WesDem |
Jan-20-05 06:01 PM |
#169 |
| -
He was unpolished, and that was the only thing that gave me pause |
digno dave |
Jan-21-05 05:38 PM |
#204 |
| -
I have a great aunt Ethel who is friends with Arlen Spectors |
Cheswick2.0 |
Jan-20-05 05:25 PM |
#163 |
| -
You mean Auntie Ethel? |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 05:56 PM |
#166 |
| -
nah...she told me she always goofs on you |
Cheswick2.0 |
Jan-20-05 06:01 PM |
#168 |
| -
Well, I 'm just going to have to call her on this..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 06:14 PM |
#171 |
| -
Frenchie, No! |
Leilani |
Jan-20-05 06:02 PM |
#170 |
| -
It's ok Leilani, |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 06:17 PM |
#172 |
| -
Wow! What a small world this is! |
Larkspur |
Jan-21-05 01:34 PM |
#197 |
| -
I agree! |
0007 |
Jan-20-05 06:19 PM |
#173 |
| -
Not Really Buying This Much.... |
ChiciB1 |
Jan-20-05 06:29 PM |
#174 |
| -
But Clinton didn't endorse Clark.... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-20-05 07:33 PM |
#175 |
| -
"Use your imagination" |
Sparkly |
Jan-21-05 08:40 AM |
#185 |
| -
Makes sense to me |
lancdem |
Jan-20-05 07:49 PM |
#176 |
| -
I agree! n/t |
sabra |
Jan-21-05 08:47 AM |
#186 |
| -
Especially since Iowa is the first state because he does really well |
Quixote1818 |
Jan-21-05 10:57 AM |
#191 |
| -
Also, Arkansas is working toward moving their primary to early February |
Sparkly |
Jan-21-05 11:00 AM |
#192 |
| -
Kerry/Clark ticket and we'd celebrating now..... |
fryguy |
Jan-20-05 10:48 PM |
#178 |
| -
Yes, even putting Clark as VP would have made a difference. |
Quixote1818 |
Jan-21-05 10:49 AM |
#190 |
| -
Yep, I've been thinking the same thing. |
Az_lefty |
Jan-21-05 11:09 AM |
#193 |
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My Uncle Herby's right testicle always aches when |
Cheswick2.0 |
Jan-21-05 12:16 PM |
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Now THAT means something! |
janx |
Jan-21-05 12:24 PM |
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I think it does |
Cheswick2.0 |
Jan-21-05 02:44 PM |
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