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Sun Nov-28-04 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #99 |
| 114. Q is RIGHT. And I HAVE been fighting my ass off for years. |
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I've organized, recruited, raised money, etc. All w/i the party too.
The folks on the ground are GOOD DEMS- but the leadership refuses to listen to us.
I've seen it first hand, over and over and over.
I would come back everyday when I worked for the DNC, telling them what the word on the street was. They IGNORED me and people like me.
They can get fucking swing voters to do their bidding for all I care.
I dont bust my ass for years just to be continuously marginalized.
I'm not even fucking LIBERAL- I'm a MODERATE. I just want to see my party FIGHT for a change- but they are too scared of the media and Rove.
FUCK THAT.
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| -Should Democrats in the Senate and Congress stage a walkout? |
Q |
Nov-27-04 05:28 AM |
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Ha! |
Stand and Fight |
Nov-27-04 05:47 AM |
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There seems to be no other way... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 05:52 AM |
#2 |
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Unfortunately,, I agree with Stand and Fight |
DeepGreen |
Nov-27-04 06:03 AM |
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Well....something has to be done to show THE PEOPLE... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 06:06 AM |
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The Republicans would really love that "really" |
menoz |
Nov-27-04 03:20 PM |
#57 |
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You're right. |
trogdor |
Nov-28-04 02:26 PM |
#107 |
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The irony of all of this... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 07:16 PM |
#90 |
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I've been thinking about this for a while |
cali |
Nov-27-04 05:53 AM |
#3 |
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The duration of the walkout wouldn't matter as much... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 05:58 AM |
#4 |
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If they refuse to attend they can be arrested |
AngryAmish |
Nov-27-04 05:09 PM |
#79 |
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That would really take some courage... |
Vickers |
Nov-27-04 06:15 AM |
#7 |
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I agree with both your statements. |
calimary |
Nov-27-04 01:13 PM |
#43 |
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They absolutely should - after all, their vote means crap right now |
mtnester |
Nov-27-04 06:15 AM |
#8 |
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Obviously, it should be at the State of the Union address |
mikehiggins |
Nov-27-04 06:27 AM |
#9 |
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Why they won't walk out |
Selatius |
Nov-27-04 06:43 AM |
#10 |
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You pretty much summed up my thoughts. |
Robeson |
Nov-27-04 12:43 PM |
#39 |
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unfortunately...this seems to be the truth eom |
noiretblu |
Nov-27-04 02:08 PM |
#50 |
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A mass sit down arms folded at the SOTU on the Dem side |
bklyncowgirl |
Nov-27-04 07:14 AM |
#11 |
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SoU would be a horrible PR move; protocol exists for a reason. |
blondeatlast |
Nov-27-04 09:29 AM |
#17 |
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not yet ... |
welshTerrier2 |
Nov-27-04 07:26 AM |
#12 |
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Where are the Democrats' PR people? |
blondeatlast |
Nov-27-04 09:32 AM |
#18 |
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a party adrift ... |
welshTerrier2 |
Nov-27-04 09:50 AM |
#22 |
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Don't I know it--the silence is deafening... and |
blondeatlast |
Nov-27-04 10:05 AM |
#23 |
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if i were king of the forrrrrrrest ... |
welshTerrier2 |
Nov-27-04 11:04 AM |
#30 |
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I hate to admit it, but you are absolutely correct. |
bush_is_wacko |
Nov-29-04 10:49 AM |
#130 |
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"If we are not given a voice" |
Q |
Nov-27-04 10:55 AM |
#28 |
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no offense taken but ... |
welshTerrier2 |
Nov-27-04 11:24 AM |
#34 |
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This is similar to the Repugs shutting down the govt. in the 90's. |
robcon |
Nov-27-04 08:24 AM |
#13 |
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I think you are wrong, but it has to be very carefully managed. |
blondeatlast |
Nov-27-04 09:37 AM |
#20 |
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How many voters do you think are being lost because of INACTION? |
Q |
Nov-27-04 10:58 AM |
#29 |
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Damn straight. I'm a 3rd generation yellow dog. My family has |
blondeatlast |
Nov-27-04 01:18 PM |
#44 |
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I think you are correct |
m berst |
Nov-27-04 02:23 PM |
#52 |
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If we were winning right now, we would not be down on the party |
juajen |
Nov-28-04 02:23 PM |
#106 |
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Did anyone catch this essay on BuzzFlash yesterday? |
PassingFair |
Nov-30-04 09:19 AM |
#145 |
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100% walkout as bush and his brownshirts enter |
queeg |
Nov-30-04 09:41 AM |
#146 |
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I have been thinking |
MuseRider |
Nov-27-04 09:02 AM |
#14 |
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I believe it would be the only way to get past the media filter... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 10:50 AM |
#27 |
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Exactly what I have been thinking |
MuseRider |
Nov-27-04 12:12 PM |
#36 |
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email your thoughts to the DNC! |
bush_is_wacko |
Nov-29-04 10:56 AM |
#131 |
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Considering the way they've been voting lately, WOULD ANYONE NOTICE? |
NYCGirl |
Nov-27-04 09:24 AM |
#15 |
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They could stand and turn their backs to him during the State O' The Union |
elehhhhna |
Nov-27-04 09:27 AM |
#16 |
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That is something I would |
MuseRider |
Nov-27-04 09:33 AM |
#19 |
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There are better ways to accomplish goals... |
tx_dem41 |
Nov-27-04 09:48 AM |
#21 |
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Obviously, voting 'en bloc' isn't working... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 10:44 AM |
#24 |
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Tell me how... |
tx_dem41 |
Nov-27-04 10:50 AM |
#26 |
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The idea of a walkout... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 11:05 AM |
#31 |
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Sorry to keep answering with another question, but |
tx_dem41 |
Nov-27-04 11:13 AM |
#32 |
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Because the MEDIA would have to cover such a unprecedented... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 03:13 PM |
#55 |
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Assuming you are talking about the Hastert story..... |
tx_dem41 |
Nov-27-04 03:33 PM |
#59 |
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They walked out on US. |
The Flaming Red Head |
Nov-27-04 10:48 AM |
#25 |
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Before they can walk out, they have to determine under what conditions |
buddysmellgood |
Nov-27-04 11:14 AM |
#33 |
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Personally |
MuseRider |
Nov-27-04 12:17 PM |
#37 |
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That's a start, but I'm saying that if they walk out, they should lay out |
buddysmellgood |
Nov-27-04 04:06 PM |
#63 |
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Oh yes |
MuseRider |
Nov-27-04 05:08 PM |
#78 |
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Agreed...there must be a stated purpose for the walkout... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 05:23 PM |
#86 |
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Hand over the govt to the repukes? |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 11:31 AM |
#35 |
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They now own the government. |
Donna Zen |
Nov-27-04 01:04 PM |
#41 |
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The 'repukes' have handed over the government to themselves... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 03:14 PM |
#56 |
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So you want to make it official? |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 03:59 PM |
#62 |
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Make what official? Do you mean that the Republicans don't know they... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 04:13 PM |
#64 |
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Why won't you explain yourself? |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 04:15 PM |
#65 |
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Do you mean achieve nothing as opposed to achieving nothing? |
Q |
Nov-27-04 04:27 PM |
#67 |
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How would a walkout be in "the people's best interest"? |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 04:29 PM |
#69 |
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Well first, I'd like them to vote NAY for crappy bills!!! |
TexasBushwhacker |
Nov-27-04 12:38 PM |
#38 |
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We are the party |
Donna Zen |
Nov-27-04 12:59 PM |
#40 |
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I need to pose this question... |
tx_dem41 |
Nov-27-04 01:29 PM |
#45 |
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We control nada... |
Donna Zen |
Nov-27-04 01:43 PM |
#46 |
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Walkingout of the process is the same as.... |
tx_dem41 |
Nov-27-04 01:47 PM |
#47 |
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Upset |
Donna Zen |
Nov-27-04 02:00 PM |
#49 |
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I agree with everything you just said. |
tx_dem41 |
Nov-27-04 02:09 PM |
#51 |
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You're not listening... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 03:01 PM |
#53 |
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I am listening |
tx_dem41 |
Nov-27-04 03:20 PM |
#58 |
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Neither one of us could know what a walkout would accomplish.. |
Q |
Nov-27-04 03:35 PM |
#60 |
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HAHAHA! |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 04:17 PM |
#66 |
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I could care less what it would force the media to do |
Voltaire |
Nov-27-04 04:46 PM |
#70 |
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You sell your principles for cheap |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 04:55 PM |
#72 |
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A USELESS ACT FOR A USELESS NATION |
Voltaire |
Nov-27-04 05:00 PM |
#73 |
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"give me some eye candy" |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 05:02 PM |
#74 |
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Christ...I have the principles of my own democratic socialist convictions |
Voltaire |
Nov-27-04 05:17 PM |
#80 |
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And you're willing to sell them for some eye candy |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 05:19 PM |
#82 |
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If they have demanded a higher price |
Voltaire |
Nov-27-04 05:22 PM |
#85 |
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Not true |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 05:25 PM |
#87 |
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If the choice is between nothing and eye candy... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 05:07 PM |
#76 |
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You can choose to fight |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 05:19 PM |
#83 |
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Most Democrats I know personally are still fighting |
Voltaire |
Nov-27-04 05:41 PM |
#89 |
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We 'hire' others to represent us in congress and the senate... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 07:29 PM |
#92 |
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No, YOU "hire" others to do your fighting for you |
sangh0 |
Nov-28-04 10:50 AM |
#97 |
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Mass Dem protest on live TV for SOTU address. DO IT!! AAAGH! |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Nov-29-04 11:50 AM |
#132 |
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I think you're wrong |
juajen |
Nov-28-04 03:25 PM |
#109 |
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I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Nov-27-04 01:05 PM |
#42 |
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Won't happen. |
Padraig18 |
Nov-27-04 01:53 PM |
#48 |
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Definitely should, but won't n/t |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Nov-27-04 03:06 PM |
#54 |
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Yes, they should.. |
freedom for all |
Nov-27-04 03:53 PM |
#61 |
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It would hurt us FAR more than it would help. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Nov-27-04 04:28 PM |
#68 |
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So WHAT!!?? |
Voltaire |
Nov-27-04 04:49 PM |
#71 |
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"We spend too much time worrying about how folks think." |
Cuban_Liberal |
Nov-27-04 05:07 PM |
#77 |
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But...what about the VOTERS who want a real, active opposition party? |
Q |
Nov-27-04 05:18 PM |
#81 |
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When the majority of voters demonstrate a functioning brain |
Voltaire |
Nov-27-04 05:20 PM |
#84 |
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Even better. |
trogdor |
Nov-28-04 02:28 PM |
#108 |
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The bottom line here... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 05:02 PM |
#75 |
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but it would make the news... n/t |
pig. |
Nov-27-04 05:27 PM |
#88 |
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Well, I'm not from Texas, |
juajen |
Nov-28-04 03:32 PM |
#110 |
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The American Corporate Media ................ |
Tennessee Gal |
Nov-27-04 07:25 PM |
#91 |
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I might stir things up a bit... |
Doohickie |
Nov-27-04 07:33 PM |
#93 |
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A walkout is a bit childish |
lulu in NC |
Nov-27-04 07:34 PM |
#94 |
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No...a walkout would demonstrate principles... |
Q |
Nov-27-04 07:44 PM |
#95 |
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What principle? |
sangh0 |
Nov-28-04 10:51 AM |
#98 |
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Childish frustration? |
Q |
Nov-28-04 12:09 PM |
#100 |
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Democrats COULD form an opposition |
lulu in NC |
Nov-28-04 12:15 PM |
#101 |
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I'm surprised that (too many) Democrats... |
Q |
Nov-28-04 07:34 AM |
#96 |
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I'm surprised you continue to "hire" Dems to fight for you |
sangh0 |
Nov-28-04 12:02 PM |
#99 |
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Mind if I call you gadfly? |
Q |
Nov-28-04 12:16 PM |
#102 |
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He is making a logical error... |
Dr Fate |
Nov-28-04 03:58 PM |
#115 |
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Tried to hire Muhammed Ali, but all we got was PeeWee Herman. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-28-04 01:59 PM |
#104 |
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Q is RIGHT. And I HAVE been fighting my ass off for years. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-28-04 03:56 PM |
#114 |
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Q- the DEMS of n the GROUND feel just like you & me. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-28-04 03:52 PM |
#113 |
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New Dance - The Texas Walkout |
IndyPriest |
Nov-28-04 10:16 PM |
#118 |
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I'll buy you a beer if DEMS have the guts & unity to to that. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-29-04 03:16 PM |
#134 |
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What? Show some courage? It might upset the DLC. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-28-04 01:54 PM |
#103 |
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It would upset Matt Lauer & Tony Snow too. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-28-04 03:49 PM |
#112 |
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They should, but they won't. |
Butterflies |
Nov-28-04 02:12 PM |
#105 |
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They are too TERRIFIED about what Judy Woodruff would say... |
Dr Fate |
Nov-28-04 03:48 PM |
#111 |
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We would be called 'cry babies'. |
Ima |
Nov-28-04 04:04 PM |
#116 |
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kick |
The Flaming Red Head |
Nov-28-04 08:57 PM |
#117 |
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Democrats are going to wish they had done something like this... |
Q |
Nov-29-04 03:29 AM |
#119 |
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YES they absolutely NEED too..they MUST..what is to be lost? |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Nov-29-04 08:28 AM |
#120 |
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Do what Gingrich did to Clinton |
Nightwing |
Nov-29-04 08:37 AM |
#121 |
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How? |
MrUnderhill |
Nov-29-04 08:49 AM |
#122 |
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You don't need a majority to walk out... |
Q |
Nov-29-04 09:17 AM |
#124 |
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A "protest" doesn't accomplish anything. |
MrUnderhill |
Nov-29-04 09:32 AM |
#125 |
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No...I'm defining participation in terms of a two-party government... |
Q |
Nov-29-04 09:42 AM |
#126 |
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What are they taking away? |
MrUnderhill |
Nov-29-04 09:46 AM |
#128 |
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"What's wrong with voting AGAINST things?" |
Zhade |
Nov-29-04 03:25 PM |
#135 |
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do you really think lieberman and his ilk would walk out? nt |
UpsideDownFlag |
Nov-29-04 09:00 AM |
#123 |
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No...the DLCers wouldn't walk out... |
Q |
Nov-29-04 09:45 AM |
#127 |
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Hogwash |
ColumbiaCowboy |
Nov-29-04 10:39 AM |
#129 |
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Lots and lots of moderates? You've convinced me. |
Q |
Nov-29-04 11:57 AM |
#133 |
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But wouldn't the republicans love that? |
mutley_r_us |
Nov-29-04 03:27 PM |
#136 |
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What part of the government don't they have right now? |
Q |
Nov-29-04 04:29 PM |
#138 |
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Shut the government down like Newt did. |
Vidar |
Nov-29-04 04:26 PM |
#137 |
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Talk about handing the government over on a silver platter! I say NO! n/ |
MsConduct |
Nov-29-04 04:30 PM |
#139 |
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Some would say that the Democratic leadership has already... |
Q |
Nov-29-04 07:41 PM |
#140 |
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Great points! I know that 'we the people' and the dems have no power... |
MsConduct |
Nov-29-04 09:46 PM |
#141 |
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I understand what you're saying... |
Q |
Nov-30-04 07:17 AM |
#142 |
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Now I understand what you are saying. You are right. I guess.... |
MsConduct |
Nov-30-04 08:22 PM |
#147 |
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most def |
bunny planet |
Nov-30-04 07:49 AM |
#143 |
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umm... 4 years too damn late |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Nov-30-04 08:02 AM |
#144 |
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