Reply #139: I won't disagree with you there.

[apnu]

What I find distressing is the number of people who thought Obama was some how progressive. Granted his campaign willfully blurred the lines by using very hopeful language to suggest progressiveness, but to be truthfull, Obama has never lied or mislead anybody on his positions.

I think with the demise of the progressive wing's choices (DK, IMO was the only real progressive that threw his hat in the ring) lead us to pick Obama because he was the last man standing that wasn't Hillary Clinton. Who by no stretch of the imagination could ever be called progressive. I think we progressives were left with out a voice in the primaries (as usual) and fell behind the next best thing, which turned out to be Obama. His rise and seizure of the progressives in the field of Democratic "groups" reminded me greatly of Howard Dean. I'd never call him progressive either, a good liberal, yes, but certainly not progressive. However Dean was, for a time, the darling of the progressives in the 2004 campaign and to some extent, still is.

I'm glad you read the book, I'm working my way through it now and I've found it very illuminating. I don't agree with him 100% of the time, and where I disagree, I disagree deeply with his positions (Warren and Religious inclusion in government) but I don understand where he's coming from and why he makes these decisions.