Reply #247: Well I'm not sure, but Clark has proposed a lot of things in the past...

[FrenchieCat]

that he has adapted based on the changing facts on the ground.

I believe Clark to be mentally nimble and agile enough to adjust his position based on exactly that...facts on the ground. When one comes from the army culture, one learns that facts on the ground are much more important than just about anything.

In terms of what we "should" be doing now, that's exactly what Clark proposes. He can't sculpt a plan for those who don't want a plan...which in essence is what you are saying he should do. If folks don't want to negotiate, but that's the sanest way out, Clark can't necessarily come up with a plan where there is no negotiations. Plus, why should he? It's not like they would take him up on that either. So you see, it's a catch 22. They say Democrats have no plans...and then when one comes up with a plan...then it's "But they will never use that plan". So it would seem that everyone should be quiet then...cause Bush ain't gonna do anything other than what he wants to do....with some wee variations based on some pressure from his daddy and his daddy's friends. But what is most important is that Clark has come up with a plan that even a fool like Bush "could" implement if he really wanted to. That's the most that Wes Clark or any other Democrat can do.

Analogy:
You hate to get to your job in 10 minutes or you'll be fired, but the only way you can do that is if you have a car, but you're walking. So I come and offer you a ride in my car. But then you say you don't need a ride....but you still need to get to your job in 10 minutes. What should I do? I can either drive away from you because you don't get it as to what you need to accomplish your goal....or I can keep coaxing you to get in the car over and over again....all the while you are ignoring me and walking slower. At some point even if you do get in the car, I won't be able to get you there in time, cause now, you now only have 5 minutes, cause 5 minutes were used up talking about it all.... So now you need race car or a police car with sirens and an airplane! Pretty soon, I decide I'll just go there without you and just take your job....and your family will starve....but at least I tried, and the only person you can blame is yourself. LOL!