Reply #54: No, it's not revisionist history.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

That's bullshit and you know. There were people here, myself being one of them, that urged pragmatism. We knew this was not the right time and we got labelled "homophobes" for it.

You look at the numbers and you tell me this issue didn't energize people. Oregon was the only state out of 11 that didn't vote against gay marriage with rates higher than 60%. Mississippi passed the 80% mark. You can't tell me this didn't motivate people to get to the ballot boxes when it was so clearly something people felt very strongly about. You're completely in denial to state otherwise.

Newsome had the correct POSITION, but it was a piss-poor tactic that is going to cost gay rights at least 6 years. It's looking more and more like the anti-gay marriage amendment will pass. If we can't even mound a cursory defense in a place like Oregon, we've got no chance of blocking it in 3/4ths of the country. People like myself TRIED to tell you that this would happen, but you simply called us "hatemongers" for doing it. I'm not the kind of guy to say "I told you so", but you still cannot see the reality of the situation, and so I am forced to.