Reply #23: Yes, a lot of valuable time

[RH]

has been wasted on the ungratefully ignorant.

Others such as Sarah Roberts and Dave Bosankoe long since gave up on hoping to save you and your ilk others from making fools of yourselves. Your loss, not theirs.

You did imply that passengers needed to be transfered. Failing to deny that passengers' remains were found in Arlington, you wrote "Am I contradicting them? Calling them liars? No."

If the passengers aboard flight 77 were not aboard the plane that hit the Pentagon, why then were their remains found at the scene ?

You are not offering an alternative interpretation for the facts and observations on record. The facts and observation on record are in short that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, a fact and observation that you especially appear to be determined to deny.

I am not at all implying that for my scenario to be correct it would require a witness there to go "Hey, wait a second. That wasn't a B757." The diversion is ludicous regardless of such an eventuality.

I made no assertion that the tail number was found at the scene. That arose as a part of an article I cited.

I find that on the whole the eye witness ccounts are remarkably consistent. Not one of them saw a missile.


The C-130 must have spiralled downward to a similar height as the B757. It was seen to have followed the B757. It flew through the smoke above the Pentagon soon after the impact.


The wheels and struts were identifiable in published photos. Have you actually compared them with those of a B757? I find that they match exactly and the notion that nobody at the scene would have known the difference is ridiculous.


According to any normal standard of jurisprudence we know for sure that in said investigation parts of passengers were recovered from the Pentagon debris. A proper investigation took place. Is there even any valid criticism to impugn the investigative procedure? To gainsay the fact of the matter the onus would fall to you to prove otherwise, which all too obviously you are unable to do.

I have no ifea which areas of the country were without primary radar. According to what would you presume to know this?

I never presumed anything got back to Washington undetected, why do you say that I do? I would rather think it possible that the C130 was onto the trail some considerable time before Flight 77 got to Arlington.


The FBI did not pretend to know who every one of the hijackers was.

On e.g. the FBI web site hijackers' identities were advertised as being "probable".


Furhter to "OH! It's already been ANSWERED! I'm so SORRY! I'd HATE to inconvenience you by asking you to give one sentence explaining HOW it's already been answered!"

It was recently answered by me in a post to this forum, to you.

The repetition is tedious.

It is not at all absurd to know anything because witnesses were there to tell you so. That's exactly how social communication has always worked. What is extraordinarily stupid is to think you know better albeit that you were nowhere near to the event.

Which witness had doubts about what hit the Pentagon?

I have not yet seen or heard of anybody who was there who is not convinced that Flight 77 hit the building, not one of them.

Whether or not anybody originally said a helicopter hit it or a small commuter jet hit it is beside the point. Such occurrances are called discrepancies, not doubts. Not one of the people who may thus be in question ever come close to suggesting that they somehow knew better than the sum total of others' experience of the same event.

The witnesses whose perceptions were seriously inconsistent with a B757 hitting the building can be counted on one hand. "Most" people did indeed describe a plane in AA colors. Other inconsitencies seem to have arisen from sloppy reporting, e.g. the notorious Steve Patterson version from a reporter who had not even spoken to him.

It is simply wrong to suppose that the identification of a B757 in the mass media preceded the identifiction from those at the scene. The identification came from those at the scene even before it came from American Airlines.