| 188. I think it was sloppy journalism vs an intentional act of misconduct. n/t |
| -CU prof's essay sparks dispute (9-11 victims not innocent) |
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Jan-27-05 12:26 PM |
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What is this guy smoking? |
WannaJumpMyScooter |
Jan-27-05 12:27 PM |
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Well before you get all apoplectic maybe you ought to look him up |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 01:25 PM |
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Still sounds like he's smoking serious crack... |
TexasLawyer |
Jan-27-05 01:41 PM |
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Go read Confessions of an Economic Hit Man |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 01:42 PM |
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Even if this is true, you think this equates murder? And didn't the other |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:57 PM |
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Religious Fanatisism cause this... |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:02 PM |
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No it didn't, death and suffering caused this |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 02:19 PM |
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Sensationalism at its best...the Gaurdian is a tabloid...you might |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:24 PM |
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The Guardian is not a tabloid. You must be thinking Daily Mirror. n/t |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-27-05 02:26 PM |
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If that is true, my apologies...though I thought they were both |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:31 PM |
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It is true. It seems to me that by the journalistic standards I've seen as |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-27-05 02:33 PM |
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Spent time in London on business and read it once or twice... |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:38 PM |
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By what you read, did it seem like a "tabloid" to you? |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-27-05 02:45 PM |
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Understand...that is why in my first post I used the word |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:52 PM |
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Showing a picture of Bush senior fishing w/ the Invisible Man |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-27-05 02:55 PM |
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I am stating that I though it was SENSATIONAL. n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:57 PM |
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But still a lot better than US newspapers. Would you agree? n/t |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-27-05 03:02 PM |
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I am partial to the NYTimes. I personally think it is less |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:15 PM |
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Even though they make shit up? |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-27-05 03:19 PM |
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Lol..I like the Post as well. I think both papers came out and apologized |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:21 PM |
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Oh man tell me about it. |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-27-05 03:26 PM |
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I think it was sloppy journalism vs an intentional act of misconduct. n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:29 PM |
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That's Bush's excuse too. But we know better ;- ) |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-27-05 03:34 PM |
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NYT was instrumental in helping bushco justify the invasion of iraq |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 03:25 PM |
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I don't think so, I think Bushco itself was instrumental in playing on the |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:27 PM |
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I guess you never heard of Judith Miller or Chalabi? |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 03:28 PM |
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I didn't go along with the war if that is what you are insinuating |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:32 PM |
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Sure, but a lot of bullshit stories the networks did. |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-27-05 03:31 PM |
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The Independent - |
JoFerret |
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Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:30 PM |
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Again your lack of background knowledge shows |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 02:42 PM |
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You are the one dodging the facts here |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 02:44 PM |
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I have no idea 1) if that comment was made and 2) the context |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:49 PM |
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what about the evil (yes evil) that fanatical christians employ? |
frictionlessO |
Jan-27-05 02:59 PM |
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Excuse me, |
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Jan-27-05 03:08 PM |
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Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:45 PM |
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Loved the Othello reference! hehehe... |
frictionlessO |
Jan-27-05 03:46 PM |
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No problem...my thoughts in no particular order |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:56 PM |
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Ok, well we're mostly agreed! See we are on the same side!! |
frictionlessO |
Jan-27-05 04:57 PM |
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Speaking of credibility... |
Red State Blues |
Jan-31-05 11:49 PM |
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Source completely irrelevant |
JackRiddler |
Feb-02-05 03:33 AM |
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You mean the foreign policy |
vincent_vega_lives |
Feb-02-05 03:42 PM |
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Interesting......... |
seatnineb |
Feb-07-05 05:59 AM |
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Thanks for the links |
bloom |
Jan-27-05 02:08 PM |
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no problem, glad to see somebody engaging in something besides |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 02:22 PM |
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This assumes that if we had another foreign policy... |
CreekDog |
Jan-27-05 03:15 PM |
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That is nice. But my friend Mike who died there had nothing |
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supernova |
Jan-27-05 12:28 PM |
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Maybe he needs medication. eom |
420inTN |
Jan-27-05 01:18 PM |
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Maybe you need to go to the source and actually see what he had to say |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 02:31 PM |
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I did. |
420inTN |
Jan-27-05 02:54 PM |
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Colorado, eh? Sounds like he's trying to pull a "Mr. Garrison" and get |
DS1 |
Jan-27-05 12:29 PM |
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This is NEOCON thinking |
MrScorpio |
Jan-27-05 12:29 PM |
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Truly deluded |
Mystified |
Jan-27-05 12:31 PM |
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the article gives the impression of propaganda |
McKenzie |
Jan-27-05 12:31 PM |
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Some of what he is saying... |
skypilot |
Jan-27-05 12:38 PM |
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That 9/11 was a response to US foreign policy doesn't change the |
Inland |
Jan-27-05 12:42 PM |
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I didn't say that it changed their status. |
skypilot |
Jan-27-05 12:46 PM |
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Response to foreign policy? Which one? |
TO Kid |
Jan-27-05 01:07 PM |
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Oh, I see where this is going. |
skypilot |
Jan-27-05 01:42 PM |
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Think a little further back... |
livinginphotographs |
Jan-27-05 01:55 PM |
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Another freeper using 9/11 to score partisan points. Must be Thursday. |
Inland |
Jan-27-05 04:15 PM |
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No kidding |
Zebulon |
Jan-27-05 02:39 PM |
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Yes, that would be wrong. |
Inland |
Jan-27-05 04:17 PM |
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WE THE PEOPLE are all responsible for what OUR government does |
diamond14 |
Jan-27-05 01:46 PM |
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From Churchills article: |
bloom |
Jan-27-05 02:22 PM |
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Ward Churchill |
Coastie for Truth |
Jan-27-05 12:40 PM |
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His punishment should be to read the essay during the 7th inning |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 12:40 PM |
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Jan-27-05 12:44 PM |
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How do we know this professor is a "liberal" or a Dem...he sounds |
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Victimhood. n/t |
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rinsd |
Jan-27-05 03:08 PM |
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I swear I thought the same thing. He reminds me of |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 04:03 PM |
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What an ass. eom |
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Jan-27-05 12:56 PM |
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What a fucking jackass |
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Jan-27-05 01:01 PM |
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diamond14 |
Jan-27-05 01:07 PM |
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So the secretaries at the pentagon are combatants, how? |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 01:11 PM |
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The Pentagon was indeed a legitimate military target. |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:15 PM |
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It is a military target yes...legitimate, you really want to go there? n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:17 PM |
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As legimate as anything we've bombed in Iraq. |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:18 PM |
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Right, and I think those people are dumb, as well. So put this |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:23 PM |
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Indeed I would... |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:27 PM |
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the prof said the pentagon was a "military target".....adding the |
diamond14 |
Jan-27-05 01:29 PM |
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Sorry, I equate "not innocent" with legitimate...I guess there may |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:12 PM |
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here's a LINK to the actual essay...never argue just on MSM distortions |
diamond14 |
Jan-27-05 02:20 PM |
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Thanks - was looking for this |
comsymp |
Jan-27-05 02:30 PM |
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ALL the Targets that day were military.. |
DearAbby |
Jan-27-05 03:07 PM |
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The towers were office buildings, nothing more |
leftynyc |
Jan-27-05 03:34 PM |
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One could argue that in a "declared war" |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 04:36 PM |
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I dont think so |
sierrajim |
Feb-06-05 08:38 PM |
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You're trying to have it both ways |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 01:20 PM |
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No, I think the people who support the war in Iraq want it both ways. |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:25 PM |
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It would be VERY high |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 01:30 PM |
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You don't think the 9-11 hijackers felt it was a war? |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:31 PM |
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No |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 01:34 PM |
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At the risk of stepping on toes ... |
igil |
Jan-27-05 02:21 PM |
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State of war with whom? |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 03:09 PM |
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And the children of Falluja are military combatants how? |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Jan-27-05 01:53 PM |
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Hello? And also what about the thousands of innocent Iraqis killed, |
d.l.Green |
Jan-27-05 02:43 PM |
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They aren't |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 04:40 PM |
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That is dumb, and yes I read the article...were the 9-11 |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:15 PM |
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OUR Government KILLED their civilians, so they came here and KILLED |
diamond14 |
Jan-27-05 01:22 PM |
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Which Saudi civilians did our Govt kill? |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 01:24 PM |
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I don't think the hijackers were working for the Saudi government. |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:26 PM |
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I don't either |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 01:31 PM |
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The US has murdered thousands and thousands of people all over the world. |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:35 PM |
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And this was in retaliation for murdering whom? |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 01:37 PM |
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Yet do you not think that actions have consequences? |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 01:57 PM |
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You are referring to the sanctions supported by the |
leftynyc |
Jan-27-05 03:39 PM |
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Yes |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 03:44 PM |
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So the 9/11 |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 04:35 PM |
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the prof explained it....perhaps reading it would help...here's the -snip- |
diamond14 |
Jan-27-05 01:35 PM |
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And the Saudis and Egyptians who did this |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 01:39 PM |
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So, then by your argument... |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:51 PM |
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Nope |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-27-05 03:27 PM |
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LINK to the ACTUAL ESSAY.....debating on a news distortion is sick... |
diamond14 |
Jan-27-05 02:28 PM |
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What distortion? |
rinsd |
Jan-27-05 03:28 PM |
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Bullshit - then why weren't the two planes that hit the |
leftynyc |
Jan-27-05 03:40 PM |
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Here is a newsflash... |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:27 PM |
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Newsflash, u.s. foreign policy has a way of biting you in the ass |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 01:29 PM |
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Seriously, if you believe that Al Qaeda is a response to US |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:32 PM |
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I think it's extremely naive to believe it's not a response to US |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:34 PM |
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Ever hear of a scapegoat mentality created by someone |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:37 PM |
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Like Iraq was a scapegoat for 9-11. |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:39 PM |
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Not a scapegoat...in that it helped bring someone to power, |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:44 PM |
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You don't think Iraq helped Bush win re-election? |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:46 PM |
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Definitely helped win re-election. n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:48 PM |
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Au contraire... |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:30 PM |
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Just like it huh? Lol...ok, if you are going to really try to defend |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:33 PM |
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Strawman. |
DrWeird |
Jan-27-05 01:37 PM |
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I have never supported that war. n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 01:45 PM |
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here's the LINK to the ACTUAL ESSAY written by the CU Professor |
diamond14 |
Jan-27-05 02:14 PM |
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He loses all credibilty in the second paragraph when he talks about |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:19 PM |
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You wouldn't happen to get your news from FOX |
bloom |
Jan-27-05 02:31 PM |
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My God no...but unlike some, I don't march in lockstep with |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:36 PM |
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I hate to rain on your parade |
RuleofLaw |
Jan-27-05 02:36 PM |
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Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:39 PM |
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How many times did we bomb infrastructure during the No-Fly period? |
rinsd |
Jan-27-05 02:46 PM |
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I thought it was during the war...but that was 14 years ago and |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:53 PM |
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It's certainly possible we hit infrastructure during the 98 raid. |
rinsd |
Jan-27-05 02:58 PM |
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No, I think you are right. I think the infrastructure was taken out |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:11 PM |
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If that's the case |
Mystified |
Jan-27-05 02:36 PM |
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Agree with you... |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:45 PM |
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Really? |
Crisco |
Jan-27-05 03:56 PM |
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I never said they did |
Mystified |
Jan-27-05 04:09 PM |
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the article under discussion does |
Crisco |
Jan-27-05 04:30 PM |
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It does? |
Mystified |
Jan-27-05 04:31 PM |
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Fuck this guy |
Redstone |
Jan-27-05 01:12 PM |
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Just His Opinion |
earthside |
Jan-27-05 01:19 PM |
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Some People Push Back |
Make7 |
Jan-27-05 01:34 PM |
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GREAT essay...everyone on this thread should read the essay... |
diamond14 |
Jan-27-05 02:06 PM |
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I figured a few people might want to actually read... |
Make7 |
Jan-27-05 02:22 PM |
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The essay is worse that the so called distortion. |
rinsd |
Jan-27-05 02:51 PM |
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I agree with him that a lot of people need to wake up. |
bloom |
Jan-27-05 01:36 PM |
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Yeah, they'll think what an asshole lefty.... |
rinsd |
Jan-27-05 02:13 PM |
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It would be nice if people read Churchills essay |
bloom |
Jan-27-05 02:25 PM |
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Here it is..... |
rinsd |
Jan-27-05 02:43 PM |
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He certainly doesn't spare liberals |
bloom |
Jan-27-05 03:13 PM |
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Oh, That's Freaky |
Crisco |
Jan-27-05 04:04 PM |
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After reading this thread...when did DU become a right wng debating site? |
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Jan-27-05 01:41 PM |
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Not the way I would have put it. |
Daybreaker |
Jan-27-05 02:07 PM |
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It's wrong to classify either as being 'collateral damage' |
American Tragedy |
Jan-27-05 02:21 PM |
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It's really something, isn't it? |
comsymp |
Jan-27-05 03:18 PM |
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Fuck this collective guilt bullshit |
American Tragedy |
Jan-27-05 01:55 PM |
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Agree. n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:00 PM |
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He explained it quite well if you would actually read what he said |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 02:23 PM |
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I did read it. |
American Tragedy |
Jan-27-05 05:55 PM |
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leftynyc |
Jan-27-05 03:48 PM |
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His point is well made |
sweetheart |
Jan-27-05 01:55 PM |
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Yep, I am sure the Terrorists were thinking exactly what you |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:00 PM |
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First strike, take out command and control |
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Jan-27-05 02:47 PM |
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Please explain how 9-11 was payback for the war in Afghanistan. .. |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:01 PM |
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twisting interpretation for a free drink i see... |
sweetheart |
Jan-27-05 05:44 PM |
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A waiter for Windows on the World that morning lived in my neighborhood. |
despairing optimist |
Jan-27-05 05:07 PM |
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Our elected officials are responsible for the blowback. |
tedzbear |
Jan-27-05 02:03 PM |
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moobu2 |
Jan-27-05 02:05 PM |
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Don't worry, you don't have to explain. we get it. n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:06 PM |
#99 |
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Fuck him. |
Zynx |
Jan-27-05 02:05 PM |
#98 |
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I'm surprised that it took as long as it did |
new_beawr |
Jan-27-05 02:13 PM |
#105 |
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you are so right nb |
el_gato |
Jan-27-05 02:20 PM |
#111 |
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I doubt if there is |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-27-05 02:52 PM |
#149 |
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Bhopal? |
Mystified |
Jan-27-05 02:53 PM |
#150 |
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This fact escapes some of our more "thoughtful" |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 02:56 PM |
#155 |
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No, it escapes ignorant people overseas who are prodded into |
new_beawr |
Jan-27-05 03:56 PM |
#211 |
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That's true. n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 04:04 PM |
#214 |
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That's the "messy" part |
new_beawr |
Jan-27-05 03:01 PM |
#161 |
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So that somehow excuses what happened on 9-11? n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:03 PM |
#165 |
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No, I'm just being pragmatic |
new_beawr |
Jan-27-05 03:47 PM |
#204 |
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hate to say it.. |
PowerToThePeople |
Jan-27-05 03:27 PM |
#184 |
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Actually, many, if not most, of the WTC victims were |
new_beawr |
Jan-27-05 03:55 PM |
#207 |
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Well, according to some here, they deserved to be murdered. |
American Tragedy |
Jan-27-05 05:44 PM |
#233 |
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Well, some of the folks here have their heads up their asses |
new_beawr |
Jan-27-05 10:44 PM |
#240 |
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Have You Ever Heard, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Jan-28-05 01:08 AM |
#241 |
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As I pointed out upthread |
leftynyc |
Jan-27-05 03:55 PM |
#208 |
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If you actually read the essay |
RuleofLaw |
Jan-27-05 02:41 PM |
#136 |
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See now he lost even more cred.... |
rinsd |
Jan-27-05 02:57 PM |
#156 |
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I am still waiting for one of these guys to blame us |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:13 PM |
#172 |
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LOL...great now I've got Mel Brooks singing in my head (nt) |
rinsd |
Jan-27-05 03:24 PM |
#180 |
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The Inquisition, what a show, the inquisition, here we go n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 03:44 PM |
#201 |
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So the Japanese civilians in their office buildings.... |
Make7 |
Jan-27-05 04:38 PM |
#224 |
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None...which is why collective guilt is BULLSHIT. |
rinsd |
Jan-27-05 04:52 PM |
#226 |
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I must have misunderstood... |
Make7 |
Jan-27-05 06:18 PM |
#237 |
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Exactly our point. |
American Tragedy |
Jan-27-05 05:39 PM |
#232 |
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I thought that was what was being implied by rinsd.... |
Make7 |
Jan-27-05 06:27 PM |
#238 |
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His opinions are not much different than what Chalmers |
Emillereid |
Jan-27-05 02:46 PM |
#144 |
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What an idiot |
underpants |
Jan-27-05 03:02 PM |
#162 |
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In some ways valid but of limited scope and much sensationalism |
dmallind |
Jan-27-05 03:31 PM |
#190 |
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Good Americans = Good Germans |
blindpig |
Jan-27-05 03:13 PM |
#173 |
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Guilt by Association = BS |
SeekingDemocracy |
Jan-27-05 03:41 PM |
#199 |
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Agree. n/t |
Bono71 |
Jan-27-05 04:06 PM |
#215 |
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Only with a detached logical mind..... |
IA_Seth |
Jan-27-05 03:54 PM |
#206 |
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That's not applicable here. 9/11 wasn't justifable as war at all. |
Inland |
Jan-27-05 04:29 PM |
#219 |
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My thoughts |
IA_Seth |
Jan-27-05 05:11 PM |
#230 |
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Oh, My.... |
The Magistrate |
Jan-27-05 05:02 PM |
#228 |
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Well, what do you think of it, Magistrate? |
American Tragedy |
Jan-27-05 05:29 PM |
#231 |
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Well, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Jan-27-05 07:52 PM |
#239 |
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An interesting perspective. Some of my thoughts were on similar lines... |
Darranar |
Feb-01-05 03:28 PM |
#243 |