Reply #140: Get over it, man; you were wrong

[William Seger]

For the third time, if the fuel exploded, that would generate force in all directions. When the fuselage and wing tips hit the ground, however, they apparently didn't generate enough backward force on that spongy dirt to throw much dirt to the north side. Are you saying you really can't understand something that simple? If so, then as I've said before, you really need to find a new hobby.

> And how did they explode without even leaving a mark where they impacted?

I'm sure you don't really mean that you can't see "a mark where they impacted" -- they left deep V-shaped craters! -- so I don't have any idea what you're trying to say. Sorry, I can't answer a question that unintelligible.

> Also, even assuming the fuselage hit the way you say it did, what happened to the top half of the fuselage? Why didn't the upper half of the fuselage scrape open a crater in that incredibly soft earth?

What the hell is wrong with your eyes, Spooky? Even if you can't see the stereo image in 3D -- which irrefutably proves the case -- surely you can compare that picture to all the others and see that the top of the fuselage did "scrape open a crater." That area that you were trying to call a "shallow, one-foot-deep depression" is a wall that goes all the way to the bottom of the crater. Since it's at the angle the plane hit, and since it's right at the distance from the wings that the top of the fuselage would be -- as I've proved to you with several diagrams! -- the only logical conclusion is that that wall was made by the top of the fuselage.

> By the way, you only have ONE wingtip aligned in the crater.

No, you are simply wrong again, unless your last thin straw is that I overlaid that drawing a tiny fraction of a degree off. If you're referring to the wing on the left of the drawing, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you can't look at the other photos (including the ones I used for the stereo images) and figure out where the mark left by that wingtip would be: It's down the center of that V-shaped crater made by the exploding fuel tanks, which is precisely where I put the wing when I overlaid my drawing on the photo.

You were wrong when you claimed to have "undeniable proof" that the crater was too small, and you were wrong when you claimed to have "rock-solid proof" the plane couldn't have hit the way the FDR data said it hit -- an FDR that was found in the crater! (I see that Killtown's latest idiotic "smoking gun" has already been debunked, BTW; too bad you were so quick to endorse that -- minus one more point on your reputation as an analyst.) You've obviously got nothing left to say about the crater but to keep repeating the same debunked nonsense. It's time to move on.